Empower Pirate Legends

@ViperishEmu2992
I wholeheartedly agree with you, and out blood pumps in the same vein, indeed, my friend. But, I believe the empowerment should come in the form of a purple fish with which one may slap offending sailors.

"Take a fish to the face, fish-face!" I would cry! O, indeed, the fun I would have at the expense of lesser beings who have yet to do the immense and unique acts that I, as Pirate Legend - yes, that's Two Capital letters, Sailor - have done.

Facefully Yours with Fish,

Jonathan Smytheson-St. Johnson

@j-s-st-johnson The would be good too :)

@ViperishEmu2992
Good! Good, you say! I say, that's not very Pirate Legendary language, wot. Every true Pirate Legend should to strip the insignificant syllable from the lexicographical indices of their mind!

A purple fish with which to slap the fishy-faced would be Legendary!

Indiciously Yours,

-JSS

@j-s-st-johnson
Alas! The choice of fish should not be woefully set aside. I for one enjoy the deep, hearty smack of a Halibut to a sea dog's visage! But the lighter, slimmer shape o' a good Spanish Mackerel allows for a mighty pirate legend to deal out his royal onslaught in a frenzy of rapid, lighter beatings!

@heavyreaper102

Ah, yes, the Sure-fire Smack of the Spanish Mack, as they say!

Alas, 'tis is sad, indeed, to see a deed like the slapdash selection of a Slapping Fish, wot?

Only true Legends who have earned their purple-gold stripes on the Seas by... well... ahem, doing the same thing everyone else does, can truly identify the ideal fish for slapping. And, I must say, sir, you are such a Legend! The taste!! For a Halifax Halibut and a Spanish Mack are music to the ears... once those ears have been stung and sung with a sagacious slap!

Idealificently Yours,

-JSS

@j-s-st-johnson I can imagine the scene already!
A woeful ship, caught upon a fierce tropic storm, the crew in disarray.
The Pirate Legend lends his presence upon deck, that lord of scoundrels.
The air is sharp as a knife blade,
the tension is high.
For they know that those who show incompetence, shall feel the wrath of his legendary Pisces.
The crack of scales like a purple coat of chain mail, scales upon flesh shattering the air louder than any boom of thunder that the deities above may summon.

@viperishemu2992 sagte in Empower Pirate Legends:

I think that Pirate Legends should be able to lock the anchor (up or down) and kick others off of the Steering Wheel. Perhaps even have an extra 1/2 vote for the Brig. (These powers wouldn't apply to other crews and other Pirate Legends)

The reason I suggest expanding their capabilities is threefold:

1. ... They deserve more than some Purple Clothes.

not at all.

2. It would help PL's when showing new players the ropes and assist these experienced players with countering the actions of Trolls.

you already can - like everybody else

3. It would give players more incentive to reach PL (and beyond).

why needed

Would it be abused? Maybe.

And would it be against the codex? Of course.

Half of Pirate Legends I meet nowadays are trolls.... thx for not empowering them further.

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I just want sets to be finished but I like this idea too, any thoughts?

@triheadedmonkey Wait so people can call me entitled and greedy and that's fine but I ask two people for their opinion and I get a warning? What type of double standard is that?!

@chronodusk sagte in Empower Pirate Legends:

@goedecke-michel You seem to have a lot of reservations against Pirate Legends. I don't really agree with OP's suggestions but there definitely needs to be more intrigue and reward for being a legend. Captaincy, more cosmetics.. etc..

I'm not saying it needs to be some big exclusive club, but there should be more to show for it.

That just seems so, I have no reservations about my attribute of being legend. I have reservations about players demanding superior abilities, which they justify with the status of being legends.

One of the main approaches of the game is that all players have the same starting conditions at all times. All players are equal. It makes no difference whether someone is playing for the first time or for a year. A beginner can hold a candle to a legend at any time.

In my opinion this is an inviolable principle.

Captains must be elected or deselected by the team. There is no need for a graduation according to legends.

There is also no need for game mechanics. In the game a good team usually follows the suggestions of a player who convinces them of his abilities. A bad team follows the suggestions of an incapable player or plays chaotically. This is completely democratic.

Last but not least, even if you are a legend, even if you started with the ship and all other players were invited by you or joined later, the following applies: the ship is the ship of the crew. It is not your ship. Your ship is the one you can row or sail all by yourself.

Elitism sucks.

@ninja-naranja said in Empower Pirate Legends:

It would definitely get abused. Besides on AVERAGE PLs still suck at the game. Giving them to ability to steer the ship into some rocks wouldn't help.

They already have this ability. So does everyone else. I don't know by which guidelines you are judging the quality of players but the average PL sucks less at this game than the average non-PL.

@goedecke-michel None of your counter points make much of an argument. At least, none that would convince me to feel otherwise.

1. I feel that the rewards for PL should be more than some Purple Clothes (which it actually is since PL's do actually gain a new power), you don't. Opinion vs. opinion.

2. Having more control over a Ship would aid teaching new players. That's why Teachers have disciplinary powers over their students in school. Tools to maintain order aids education. Yes PL's can teach people now, but if it was easier PL's might do it more often.

3. It WOULD give more incentive. Whether it is needed or not is purely subjective to each individual.

4. It wouldn't violate the Pirate Code. Article 4 only addresses fairness, respect and equal treatment among players. It has nothing to do with equality of level based skills abilities. (example: PL's can open the Athena's Legend cave and others can't. So PL's are already possess "superior" abilities to Non-PL's). Plus article 7 would still apply to PL's trolling their crews.

What it comes down to is whether the abilities for PL should be expanded above what they already are. I believe it would be a good thing, you don't.

@viperishemu2992 sagte in Empower Pirate Legends:

@goedecke-michel None of your counter points make much of an argument. At least, none that would convince me to feel otherwise.

1. I feel that the rewards for PL should be more than some Purple Clothes (which it actually is since PL's do actually gain a new power), you don't. Opinion vs. opinion.

2. Having more control over a Ship would aid teaching new players. That's why Teachers have disciplinary powers over their students in school. Tools to maintain order aids education. Yes you can do it now, but if it was easier people might do it more often.

3. It WOULD give more incentive. Whether it is needed or not is purely subjective to each individual.

4. It wouldn't violate the Pirate Code. Article 4 only addresses fairness, respect and equal treatment among players. It has nothing to do with equality of level based skills abilities. (example: PL's can open the Athena's Legend cave and others can't. So PL's are already possess "superior" abilities to Non-PL's). Plus article 7 would still apply to PL's trolling their crews.

What it comes down to is whether the abilities for PL should be expanded above what they already are. I believe it would be a good thing, you don't.

ROFL, my dear friend, it's not about convincing you. Think what you want. But for this game, one basic consideration has always been important to the developers: no one gets better tools or more skills. Whether that convinces you or not really doesn't matter.

@kraken-slap Thanks Kraken Slap. (nice name by the way!) I haven't really seen any solid arguments against the idea yet.

The keywords being thrown at me are Elitism and Equality. But this is being done my people who don't realize that Pirate Legends already have special abilities (access to Athena's Fortune and buying Athena Missions) above and beyond normal players.

The special abilities aren't much. But it's enough to toss the No Elitism and No InEquality arguments out the window.

My idea just expands a PL's control of the Ship a bit more. (And justifies having a Brig on the Sloop! LOL). I can see some people not wanting that to happen. I just am not convinced it wouldn't be a good idea.

@ViperishEmu2992 @J-S-St-Johnson Holy mackerel, I dern't understand a single word, do ye mind workin' that out amidst yourselves?

@goedecke-michel But PL's already have better tools and special abilities. They can enter an exclusive area of the game and they can purchase and throw down Athena Missions.

@viperishemu2992 sagte in Empower Pirate Legends:

@goedecke-michel But PL's already have better tools and special abilities. They can enter an exclusive area of the game and they can purchase and throw down Athena Missions.

No better tools. They can open a door. That's all about it.

@bugaboo-bill That's a fair enough argument. It may cause more grief than good? Or it may make the SoT a better place?

There's only one way to know for sure :)

@fuzzyh1ghland3r said in Empower Pirate Legends:

Pirate legend is merely a title and shouldn’t grant powers. Everyone can become a legend but not everyone is truly legendary

This is also a good point. Only Barney Stinson is truly Legendary.

@closinghare208

Dearest Approaching Rabbit, the 208th of His Name,

Well, I've never been to the British Royal Navy - so, make of that what you will. In fact, Her Majesty's Navy and I have never been prepositionally involved in any capacity.

I find prepositional involvement with the military field is to place oneself afield of oneself on a path to, at, and with danger, wot?

With Wary Preposidation,

-JSS