Please Don't Mess Up The New PL Commendations!

  • So in the newest Livestream, Rare finally confirmed some type of Pirate Legend Content. There will, at the very least, be Commendations for the Hunter's Call Reputation. All I'm asking is; don't make one of them something boring like Sailor of Athena's Voyager because that Commendation is brutal. Sail 1,000 Nautical Miles AND you tied it to the Capstan?? Not cool. This Commendation literally requires you to go on a Brig or Sloop; drop and Athena down and just sail with the wind until you get bored. Because there is no other way to efficiently do it.

    Don't make one of these Commendations something super boring, and if you happen to have one that is super boring; don't tie it to the Legendary Fishing Rod or any other cosmetic for that matter. Also, stop with the ridiculously high numbers. Example: Legend of the Sea of Thieves Grade V. WHY? Why do we have to sink 500 Skeleton Ships? Like, do you guys even know how much 500 is??? You only get 6 per fleet! That's roughly 83 fleets! Like c'mon that's ridiculous. I don't want to have to sink 500 ships for a commendation just so that I can finally buy the cannons. Just like how I don't want to have to catch 500 Splashtails for whatever cosmetic you decide to lock it behind. Don't make it boring. And stop locking our brand new cosmetics behind Commendations that are going to take us a month+ to complete. I'd rather it be tied to the Hunter's Call Reputation just like everything else, rather than a Commendation.

    https://youtu.be/9Ugf1lGUOk0?t=3010

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  • But im at 873 miles and 333 skellyboats and they stole our athena chest tonight :D its ok i just hunt 5-10 skellyboats a day with athena on im almost there

  • @ruigtand-nl If you hunt 10 Skelly ships a day, that's 50 days to get the Cannons. That's ridiculous! Don't you think so? It's just for a Cannon skin too!

  • I'm at almost 300 Skelly ships, and 822 miles. That is casual sailing with an athena down and sinking skelleons as we see them for the most part. It isn't that bad :?

    Legendary items shouldn't be easy, regardless of the grind to get the title.

  • @archangel-timmy And you've been working on these since?...

  • @zaannox

    Yeah well its slow progression but dont really need to do anything special for it just lay down an athena and sink any skellyboat you see for loot and slowly in time get there.. mostly i need a crew who wants to hunt skellyboats to speed things up i guess

  • @ruigtand-nl That's the point. They added a ridiculously high number on top of an activity that is infinitely easier with other people, but those people also have to be dedicated to farming Skelly Ships all day like you. Even if you do farm all day that is hours of play time. For Example, with all your progress, when did you start making progress towards these items?

  • @zaannox

    Yea im grinding skellyboats now.. since i hit pl10 and i love the canonskin.. last 2 weeks im hunting skellyboats solo most of the time and even done 4 fleets solo its prety tough sea of naval warfare out there but im having fun. But i actually think its more easy then doing a voyage solo i can stay on the boat sink 2 skellies and scuttle for new planks -.- nothing to loose and well i no longer pick up the loot so maybe your right

  • @zaannox youre right.. we should be able to unlock all commendations in 1 week as max...

  • Take a breath. You have a lifetime to achieve these goals. Nobody forces you to drive around with one Athena until you have collected the nautical miles. Seriously, that's how you go about it, that's your plan? Just drive Athenas. Clear your head of something like that. If you've driven enough Athenas, you deserve the award. That's why, in my opinion, the high requirement is also justified: you have to earn it, not every gallows bird gets it.

  • @zaannox sagte in Please Don't Mess Up The New PL Commendations!:

    @archangel-timmy And you've been working on these since?...

    WORKING? This is a GAME. Not a JOB.

  • I was PL athena 8 when i stopped playing last year(second day of gunpowder skellies, but i forget the date). I reinstalled a couple of days after rare announced crossplay options. About 310 skelly ships in that time(2 months i guestimate). It doesn't really take that long.

  • @goedecke-michel I was A10 when these came out so I feel a bit slighted and I actually completely quit the game when Shrouded Spoils came back. Only came back for Arena and now that I'm trying to get all the stuff I should've been given off the bat and I realizing how long it's going to take.

    And yes, "working" because it's a synonym for progressing towards. Like, hello? Words?

    And you right, I do have a life time to achieve these goals. You know what else people had a lifetime to achieve? Grinding credits in Star Wars Battlefront 2. You know what people got mad about? It took too long to unlock Darth Vader and other popular Jedi/Sith. You know what EA did? They fixed it. Why? Just because I have a lifetime doesn't mean I want to spend all of it doing this. If I have a goal I should be able to achieve it relatively quickly. EA and literally everyone who played and heard any news about SWB II when it came out also agreed.
    This man can explains my thought process more than I can:
    https://youtu.be/aCNsU-XpefE

  • Honestly I hope they have something that will take a long time to complete. I'm quite happy to have commendations just slowly ticking away in the background. I think it's because I don't prioritize them. If I see a skelly ship, I'll go take it down just as a part of that particular voyage, not because I'm desperately trying to sink 500.

    The commendations will drop when they will. In the mean time I'll just enjoy all the game has to offer along the way.

  • @ruigtand-nl Yeah, when we see a skelly ship and I tell them to help kill it my own crew is often like: "No man let's just finish this athenas."
    And I'm like:
    "But my commendation!"

  • Make it 100 Ships and people complain there is no content to work off rofl
    Or make it 250 and people who already did 500 complain.
    We had bothversions in the short history of SoT already.

    Aren't you one of these who argue we shouldn't ask for changing the game?
    It's by concept and idea of Rare just like PvPvE to let it happen by the way and don't care that much for numbers.
    Nobody is guilty if someone works it all off or is impatient to get to this or that.
    Original Design of the game that you want to change, but don't grant it to others if they ask for changes?
    Questionable aproach.

    I ask for no progression at all, not even horizontal, earn money, buy what you want without any gating?!?
    What's about that?
    I'd like to take away any meaning of someone's personal progression!
    But please tell us what would be the right measure that would please you. 100 or 250 or 333 or what?

    I recommend you to sail the miles of and become very proud you did something you neither like to do, is repetitive and nonsense to you, but you then can shine with earlier than others rofl

  • @zaannox aha “they should’ve given you” so you feel entitled...

    I hit PL in first week of hungering deep, athena 10 way before the comms came out.

    They are commendations not gifts and people should work for them, earn them or don’t these comms are nothing insane, just sail away and do some stuff you like and before you know it youll have them.

    I was glad shrouded spils finally gave some comms you couldnt do in a single day and am still ‘working’ my way towards them and i dont mind.

    We just hunt forts and skelly ships and put a voyage down for the miles and dont even mind it tbh. Miles just fly in

  • @zaannox Man, in one hand you're complaining because it's to long to hit theses commendations... in the other hand you would also complain if it would be so easy that every pirate could hit theses commendations..

    Of course it's long, but it must mean something.
    Pirate Legend used to be long to hit, but with doublons now it's easy and i encounter so many PL. PL doesn't mean anything anymore now.
    So let some long achievment to hit to show the world how hard you're playing this fabulous game.

    If someone is boarding your galeon and see all theses crazy commendations skin they would say "Ok, theses guy are freak omg". That's what i want personnaly. Something long to tryhard in this kind of game to make the difference with other common pirates.

    :)

  • @hephytelion sagte in Please Don't Mess Up The New PL Commendations!:

    @zaannox Man, in one hand you're complaining because it's to long to hit theses commendations... in the other hand you would also complain if it would be so easy that every pirate could hit theses commendations..

    That's the usual hippocrisy around.

    Of course it's long, but it must mean something.
    Pirate Legend used to be long to hit, but with doublons now it's easy and i encounter so many PL. PL doesn't mean anything anymore now.

    It meant nothing, but what you think i means to you. And only you.
    If someone compares himself to others that much then thats their own problem.

    I hit PL after 11 Month, never grinding of anything and it meant nothing to me.
    I play the game like i played before.
    No meaning at all.

    So let some long achievment to hit to show the world how hard you're playing this fabulous game.

    Honest question, is this the approach and meaning what is so important to you?
    To show the world how hard you game'd it?
    Seriously?

    If someone is boarding your galeon and see all theses crazy commendations skin they would say "Ok, theses guy are freak omg". That's what i want personnaly. Something long to tryhard in this kind of game to make the difference with other common pirates.

    :)

    I now feel for you.

    Btw if i see someone with it i think a someone with no life at all, worked the system off to shine, poor gamer :D

    Please dont feel offended, that wasn't my aim, i just want you to see the other side of the coin.

  • @bugaboo-bill Hum... I that's your point of view :)

    There is no matter of being a no-life imo... you seems to think that to hit thhis commendation, you can only rush it by playing h24.
    But it's not how this game actually work. It's designed for a long term purpose.

    It's a reward ! Where everything in this game is actualy easy, it's good to have something to sail for passivly.

    And what i understand from you is that it's ridiculous to put a skin to show our achievment or to seems "different"? Isn't it the purpose of all skins?
    On wow you farm legendary weapon for skins, on league of legends you buy skin to show you're not noob with the champ (in theory ;) ;) ) etc...

    On top of that, in a pirate game, where reputation should be important, it's good to show people that you have achieved some crazy things meaning you're sailing since a while.

  • But theres only so much a pirate can handle we are not marines :( at 337 things start to get prety awkward weird maybe completely shellshocked dumping loot to catch the wind for the next fleetbattle.. -.- its messed up and not fair we r on this tight schedule and we have no time to explain whats going on then we leave a mess for others to take care off

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy1DjDgeyo

  • @hephytelion sagte in Please Don't Mess Up The New PL Commendations!:

    On top of that, in a pirate game, where reputation should be important, it's good to show people that you have achieved some crazy things meaning you're sailing since a while.

    Not applicable to me. I only wear what seems chic to me. I find many things dreadful, the titles are completely indifferent to me. I prefer to wear my black pre-order leather clothes and discreet black on the ship, next to sails with a worn look. I find most cosmetic articles quite horrible to look at. If you would meet me at sea, you probably wouldn't know which titles I could wear on my lapel.

  • @zaannox Casually since release of the commendations for the most part, but I hit 200 the weekend before last. So 96 in the last 8 days as my wife and I have been hunting them a bit more. I believe that was 6 fleets and the rest randoms.

    Also with that we are getting 25-35 nautical miles for a few hour session just for cruising around hunting them. Both commendations are easily manageable and I hope the new ones are just about the same. A few hundred fish, a bunch of various Kraken/Meg/Shark. It will be fun :)

  • @goedecke-michel I'm also wearing black-dog set because it's the less common and all other cosmetics are barly easy to get :/.

  • @hephytelion sagte in Please Don't Mess Up The New PL Commendations!:

    @bugaboo-bill Hum... I that's your point of view :)

    There is no matter of being a no-life imo... you seems to think that to hit thhis commendation, you can only rush it by playing h24.
    But it's not how this game actually work. It's designed for a long term purpose.

    It's a reward ! Where everything in this game is actualy easy, it's good to have something to sail for passivly.

    And what i understand from you is that it's ridiculous to put a skin to show our achievment or to seems "different"? Isn't it the purpose of all skins?
    On wow you farm legendary weapon for skins, on league of legends you buy skin to show you're not noob with the champ (in theory ;) ;) ) etc...

    On top of that, in a pirate game, where reputation should be important, it's good to show people that you have achieved some crazy things meaning you're sailing since a while.

    Dont get me wrong i play the game since Alpha, i was an original Pioneer and i let all happen by the way playing.

    Only one thing i "worked" torwards were the skulls for the bonecrusher Wheel.
    I said lets do the ship's and megs i want that wheel.
    I am 1st year PL and i barely wear or use one of the cosmetics, same for Athena.
    It changes some days, but i use simple cosmetics all over all.
    No need to show someone something, but wear the stuff i like the most.

    Ok day one patch and founder sails to "show off", but honestly if there were a cooler sail for me personally i'd use them.

  • @bugaboo-bill I understand your point of view.

    For me it's also depend of my mood, sometime i want to show for how long i'm sailing , sometime i just put my latest unlocked skins.
    But at least always in order to show my achievement to other pirates as i don't see my own skin while playing (fps :) ).

  • @theunionjames said in Please Don't Mess Up The New PL Commendations!:

    @zaannox The difference between this and battlefront is nothing meaningful or gameplay changing is ever locked behind legendary commendations. Just Titles and cosmetics. You're right that locking new experiences behind long term goals is a bad idea but a hat is not Darth Vader!

    @theunionjames the cosmetics are meaningful to a lot of players. Just because it is does not have power up type stats does not mean it is not important to unlock them and using the item has no purpose or meaning. They give reason to play and unlock like @Ruigtand-NL and many of us are doing. If there was truly no meaning, there would be no need for any cosmetics, titles, or commendations to like them at all.

    I agree with you @Zaannox that some of the commendations like the ones you mentioned are a bit grindy. Some were ridiculously so until Rare downgraded them. Also does not help that Rare did not think to save data for some of commendations either. Look at the Shrouded Ghost. Played as much as we have and still have not seen it once. Not a good goal at all. It is a delicate balance to get it right. Should not be convoluted like they are. Do not need to burn through them all days after they drop. Need some to be longer goals.

    Does not feel right when the Athenas are so repetitive doing all the past content to get there and one ends up still not reaching these particular unlocks. The gilded voyages for months had an impact on the balance. The unlocks should be tied closely to the content as it is played. Having to keep doing the same things over and over after it all and everything else has been done so many times makes it feel way too repetitive and so much an unnecessary grind.

    My spouse and I were working on them like some of the posters here. We too just dropped an Athena as well, although we usually ended up finishing it depending on what happened that session. We focused of hunting skelleons, sinking players that messed with us, and try to make our own fun along the way to keep the highly repetitive nature of Sea of Thieves from being boring. We are currently taking a break waiting for the update to drop. Storytime, hunting, cooking, and fishing hopefully will spice things up if the new ship damage system does not mess it all up.

  • I tend to play like @Archangel-Timmy it seems, but for me the commendations fall into two categories, maybe 3 depending on how you see it.

    There are Goals, like sink X number of Skelly Ships, where it's something that takes a bit of skill to accomplish and some dedication - if not to the task then to the game itself. They tend to be something you can actively try or "work" for.

    Then there are Experiences, like kill the Shrouded Ghost, that just commemorate something you've come across or see in the world - like the commendations for exploring all of the Devil's Roar. These will just happen eventually.

    The Bilge Rat/Mercenary Voyages seem to fall somewhere in between.

    Regardless, I feel like if everyone took the word "grind" out of their lexicon for games they'd be a lot happier.

  • @x-crowheart-x

    I have only sot on xbox i made 43 sot solo player friends... its a mutiny they all play other games now.. karen, pirates and skellyboats wrecked them

    Im getting those canons im wrecking karen and all skellyboats until its save for them to play sea of friends again

    883 miles 341 skellyboats..

  • @ruigtand-nl

    Sure it is the other way around. The skellie fleet, Karen, Megs, and pirates are sighing relief Wolf and I have not been sailing lately. Was not scared off and no mutiny my friend. Miss sailing with you, NoFears, the Queen and other great pirates and friends.

    We had been sailing constantly for a year through all the ups and downs, with more downs being delivered by Rare. We would have these finished if we wanted. Just stretching and a bit tired of all Rare’s bull, lies, and screwing up the game. We all shall sail together again.

  • @badrobott I like the grind. Perhaps replace “grind” with “long journey”. The

  • @x-crowheart-x

    Yeah well i miss you guys just did another fleetbattle saved a galleon sink all skellyboats but when im fighting the captn the galleon attacks me but i fix the keg holes until captn skelly sinks me and i ask for "mercy im in the water" then they snipe me :( 344

  • @goedecke-michel Sometimes it feels like a job. F.E. when u start "playing" and have to grind supplies at first!

  • @bugaboo-bill @Hephytelion While yes, you are right to some degree, I have only complained about Skeleton Ships being 500 & having to sail 1,000 Nautical miles both of which being a key commendation as they are the locks to 2 of the coolest items added to Pirate Legends. I don't think people who haven't started trying to reach this goal know exactly how much 500 Skeleton ships is, or how long it takes to sail 1,000 nautical miles. I did the 30 Athena Voyages just fine. I thought that was a fair amount of Athena voyages. You could do 2 a day, be done in a little over 2 weeks. Fair. But 500 Skeleton Ships is something that can take months to do if you just "let it happen naturally" as some of you have said. Which is crazy when a similar reward, the Legendary Wheel, can be attained relatively quickly. I think 250 Skeleton Ships is more than enough to give someone the Cannon Skin. We are talking about all of this progress for one skin! Just one! Not a set! One! I am only complaining because like I've said before. 500 Skeleton Ships and sailing 1,000 nautical miles are both WAY too big of numbers to be deemed "fair" for one skin that you still have to buy!

    I felt entitled to be given the basic Athena voyages off the bat, @CallMeBackdrafT , why? Because I was also A10 before the Commendations came out. There is no reason for me to do 30 more Athena's, turn in 500 more chests, 500 more skulls, sail x amount of miles, etc. I had done all that stuff already. It's not my fault Rare is bad at their job and didn't track our progress beforehand.

    @Ruigtand-NL @x-Crowheart-x Thank you. Finally two people who have started trying to achieve this goal and realize that this goal is way too much effort for the reward. Like are you really the Legend of the game if you sink 500 Skeleton Ships? No. Rare came up with 500 to keep Pirate Legends occupied, while also locking each new cosmetic item they added behind different Commendations to force us to do them. Every other player gets all their sets when they get to 50 in said reputation. Level 50 with Gold hoarders? Hey! Now you have access to the entire Sovereign set! Everything! Weapons, equipment, ships parts, everything! No string attached! You're PLA10? No that's not good enough, go turn in 500 more chests, 500 more skulls, 500 more cargo on time in prime condition, sail 1,000 nautical miles while on an Athena's, complete 30 more Athena voyages, and sink 500 more Skeleton Ships...then you can have all the cool new stuff we added for you while everyone else gets to buy whatever they want the moment it's released! We have to do all of that for 9 items...nine! All of that effort for 9 items! Let that sink in.

    What happened to Commendations being what gave you cool titles and your reputation being the factor in if you can buy an item? This is a massive double standard and it's only given to Legends, if the casual playerbase was told they needed to complete Gold hoarders Commendations in order to unlock their equipments and ship parts, there would be a riot! Commendations were meant as extreme long-term goals, that is why most Legends, even today, don't have all of the Gold Hoarders Commendations; they take a long time. If Casuals don't have any of their content locked behind extremely long Commendations then neither should Legends!

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