Is funny launching bannable?

  • I was wondering if exploiting glitches is bannable in Sea of Thieves? (not using cheats, just glitches)
    Sword lunging water started off as a glitch, then it became a feature. Practically everybody uses keg rock on FOTD as an exploit and I see lots of videos of people funny launching online. I have never learned to funny launch myself, if it is bannable I won't even try learning it. If it isn't bannable I will learn it because it looks highly advantageous.

    The real question I am asking here is, will I get banned for learning specific glitches?
    If so, what indicates whether a glitch is okay to exploit or not? Because everyone uses keg rock for example... they're surely not going to ban the most dedicated players who are stacking FOTD's and using keg rock.

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  • @slipkick01 in general using exploits to gain an advantage over other players is bannable

  • @slipkick01 Generally, if you have to question if a 'glitch not cheat honest Guv' is bannable, you probably already know the answer and should probably avoid it 😂

  • As a side note....not EVERYONE uses "keg rock" as I have no idea what that means.

  • I dunno what that is but in my head I am going with someone slowly walking out and holding a keg up on a rock and then all the pirates on the server get all excited and start emoting while an epic instrumental starts playing

  • For the sake of shenanigans (trust me it'll be funny when I'm not trying to sink you or something shady) how would one funny launch. Like how rowboats teleport several yards/meters away if you die.

  • @triheadedmonkey If I knew the answer I wouldn't be here asking 🤷also what do you mean by "honest guv"?
    If everyone is doing funny launches in a couple months time then I shouldn't have avoided it early on. Does anybody know Rare's policy on this sort of stuff?? Have people been banned for exploiting glitches before?

    Also, keg rock is where people keep kegs for FOTD, stack them inside a rock then they can't be taken out to blow up your ship but you can still hit them to one shot grey marrow.

  • Apparently "everyone" doesn't know what this is, since no one here does.

    That and the fact that you have to ask tells me you should be very careful.

    You might see people do it, but until someone reports and it the devs figure it out, there is no way of knowing.

    If they decide it is an exploit then it is too late for someone.

    Another way to look at it, the more of an advantage you get the more likely it is to be an exploit, so really, if it matters, don't risk it, if it doesn't matter, why bother.

  • Not every glitch is bannable. If everyone can do something easily and it doesnt give some major advantage over all, then you are probably fine, but if its clearly unfair or highly advantageous, maby best to keep away from it.

  • @slipkick01 I feel you may have missed the moral/common sense part of the decision there.

    If you don't wish to risk consequences, don't do things that may result in potential consequences from things you think might be iffy.

    If you think "I'll try it and see what happens..." don't be surprised if there are consequences.

    Again, If you have doubts as to whether a 'glitch' is a cheat and may be actionable...don't do it. Or do and accept the repercussions.

    It is that simple.

  • should be bannable, other games ban exploiters. I certainly report exploiters.

    This game however, exploiting is celebrated and even partnered streamers do it.

    kinda sad really.

  • @foambreaker If you look for a crew that wants to stack FOTDs through Xbox LFGs or Discord communities I guarantee the crew you join will be using keg rock. Maybe you're not big into stacking FOTDs, that's completely cool too but that way you wouldn't know of the keg rock strat. Also the biggest content creators have been using keg rock for a while now too, it is common knowledge for people who take FOTDs.

    Lots of content creators are also doing funny launches, including some of the bigger ones and I don't see them getting banned after doing it for at least 3 months now... could be even longer that the glitch was made known, I'm not sure when it was discovered.

    Of course there is no way of knowing. It is a sandbox game at the end of the day and you can't stop people from experimenting.

    I just want to know if there has been cases of people getting banned for acquiring new strategies that were unintentionally made possible from the dev's behalf?

  • @goldsmen Well, it does give an advantage of course. As you said though everyone can do it. It is not an unfair advantage because both crews are always able to do it.

  • @triheadedmonkey Well I didn't know there was a moral or common sense part involved with glitches man, some game devs are cool with people doing glitches until they get patched?
    I'm just asking what are Rare like, are they cool with this stuff? Has anyone heard of people having issues in the past with this?
    I have no doubts as to whether it is a glitch or a cheat. It is a glitch, it is a feature of the game. Definitely not intended by the devs.

  • @bun-e-hopps Sword lunging through water was an exploit, I think it's a cool addition to the game. I like when devs keep stuff like this in sandbox games

  • @slipkick01 Still comes back to "If you don't want to find out, Don't do it."

    Support is the only place you may get a solid answer but I doubt they would provide 'a line' for folks to dance on.

  • @slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

    @goldsmen Well, it does give an advantage of course. As you said though everyone can do it. It is not an unfair advantage because both crews are always able to do it.

    Everyone can functionally do every exploit that comes from simple bugs, but if something is exceedingly hard to do, or most people have no clue how to do it, that isnt the same as everyone being able to do it, just because technically everyone can.

  • @goldsmen Double gunning is pretty hard to pull off and most people don't know how to do it.

  • @triheadedmonkey Thanks, I'll give support a shot

  • @slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

    @goldsmen Double gunning is pretty hard to pull off and most people don't know how to do it.

    And that is a feature that is intended, not a glitch. Anyone can equip 2 guns, its incomparable to some one using something clearly not intended that boarders some kind of line.

  • @slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

    @foambreaker If you look for a crew that wants to stack FOTDs through Xbox LFGs or Discord communities I guarantee the crew you join will be using keg rock.

    And this has to do with my response regarding Funny Launching how?

  • @goldsmen It wasn't intended, they removed it but brought it back again.

  • @slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

    @goldsmen It wasn't intended, they removed it but brought it back again.

    If it was brought back, i think that means that means it is intended, as far as i understand it, the first time it was removed was due to reception about it as a feature. Either way, all i will say is just dont use the exploit in question since you are unsure, its better to regret not doing it sooner if it is allowed later, rather than be banned because you did it sooner and found that its not permitted.

  • @foambreaker Because in your response regarding funny launching you said Apparently "everyone" doesn't know what this is, since no one here does. When I said everyone knew about keg rock. That's why I started explaining how all stackers know about keg rock

  • @slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

    @foambreaker Because in your response regarding funny launching you said Apparently "everyone" doesn't know what this is, since no one here does. When I said everyone knew about keg rock. That's why I started explaining how all stackers know about keg rock

    So I responded about funny launch, which is called ladder launch btw, and you responded about keg rock.

    Ok.

  • @goldsmen I think the opposite is true, if something was removed from the game then it realistically wasn't intended. But then it was brought back because it became a fundamental part of pvp and people were saying that using two guns was no longer a viable loadout after double gunning was patched out.

  • @foambreaker You were quoting me saying "everyone" and when I was saying everyone I was talking about keg rock. I wasn't saying everyone knew about funny launching because it isn't well known yet.

  • Using glitches and exploits to gain advantages over others is actionable. I suggest you don't use them. All it takes is a few reports and they are on to you. I wouldn't even trouble yourself with learning them and instead start reporting, with evidence, those who are using them even if they are partners.

    As for Keg rock, what are you even on about?

    Also just because content creators and streamers are doing it, doesn't make it a safe or OK thing to do.

  • Pretty sure this “keg rock” thing is just where you find all the kegs and put them in the rock wall down the left ramp from the top and lead the boss over to it and shoot one so they all explode on him and he dies instantly.

    If it’s something different, let me know… but keg rock isn’t an exploit. It doesn’t give any kind of advantage, just is a convenient place to stack the kegs. I used to stack the kegs on the bridge in the center and lead him over it to shoot them. On normal forts I have other strategic places I stack kegs to lead the boss to. So unless you mean something else that allows the kegs to somehow damage the boss more than they normally would, this isn’t an exploit.

    The funny launch is a ladder glitch and it falls much closer to the sword lunge that eventually got added. They won’t add this ladder glitch officially, I’m sure, as it’s very fiddly and doesn’t really combine consistently with normal play. Not all exploits are bannable, but it’s best to avoid the ones you suspect might get you in trouble.

  • Not sure why you are even comparing it to keg rock tbh. One is to complete pve event faster, other one is one of the most exploitative glitches in the game that gives insane advantages in pvp.

    Also not everyone can do it as it is directly tied to your fps.

    Personally I think it should be ban worthy exploit.

  • @slipkick01 the quickswap for doublegunning didnt get brought back, not in the way it originally used to work, there have been new ways found to cancel the swapping animation which yes is faster then intended but still no where near as fast then before they worked on it.

    About “funny” or ladder launching, this is the same as multiple other launch glitches that have been here over the years all have been patched out.

    Then there is the part that neither the “keg rock” and quickswap have an underlying hardware requirement, because from all i have seen from people trying to explain how it works is that the more fps you have the better it works.

    Then there is the part where it can launch you multiple (read 4+) map squares away giving you an INSANE advantage over other crews.

    And then we have my knowledge over reporting multiple people doing it by now and all of them getting banned.

  • The animation cancel and faster ADS for the double gun is not intended behavior. I expect it will be patched out or dealt with in some way.

  • @slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

    Also, keg rock is where people keep kegs for FOTD, stack them inside a rock then they can't be taken out to blow up your ship but you can still hit them to one shot grey marrow.

    Well that sounds like you are describing another exploit

  • "Keg Rock"

    This is a rock wall on FotD that players can use to stack several gunpowder barrels at, but also make them practically un-grabbable by hand. It essentially helps trivialize an already trivialized boss fight while also undoing the risk of having your ship sneakily blown up by tuckers with the idea to use the fort against you.

    As far as I'm concerned, it's fair enough game and forces tuckers to play much more carefully around a crew that might know a thing or two.

    "Funny launching"

    As much as I've learned about this, this appears to be a sloop/brigantine exclusive issue where using your ship's ladders in an awkward way can result in your launching extremely far from your ship without the need to climb into your ship's cannon. Which some might find useful to get a surprise broad on an unsuspecting crew. This is not something I would support as it can completely destroy proper boarder defense preparations due to the lack of any notification that someone is trying to board you before they reach your ladder.

    That is an actual exploit which needs looking into.

    The being said, the report system is such an unfortunate joke that whether you do these things or not really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. You're worried that doing FotD quicker could be a cheating exploit because tuckers can't use the fort's kegs against you, I personally do not think that is a big deal. "Funny Launching" on the other hand is something that's worth reporting, and "bigger content creators" aren't doing that intentionally. Most partners, since they're already involved in PvP mostly, are usually the first and highest priority to report to Rare about certain glitches and exploits, and whether or not to use them on stream. If they're not a partner, they probably don't know or care about certain exploits being a serious problem, and their fate is bound to come to them eventually.

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