There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life)

@galactic-geek said in There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life):

Arrogance and ignorance - a terrible combination, indeed.

Don't pretend like you now something more than others. You don't work at Rare so it's obvious your "server performance" talk is just a guess game. You don't even know if adding more marine life will have a huge effect on servers or not. All you're doing here is basically saying "Server stability issues, bad, you can't have fun because server performance issues, I know what I'm talking about" and I really don't see a point in that? Like, this is a feedback and suggestion forum and clearly these suggestions are not made for you. Maybe devs already saw this thread and thought "Hm, that's a great idea and that's something we can add without affecting server performance" yet here you are shutting everyone down for some reason.

@galactic-geek said in There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life):

@bluerexdino said in There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life):

@bupzy Yes all we need is something to look at or do while we are sailing so much time is wasted sailing and it can be quite boring. The only thing to do is play music and look at the empty horizon there just needs to be a little bit more life in the game.

There's plenty to look at and do while sailing. You can watch for other ships, man the sails, go fishing, cook something, try out a new look, play with a pet, have a conversation with the crew, gather supplies from nearby islands, etc. Life is what you make of it, and the same applies to the Pirate Life.

And setting of fireworks, everybody forgets about the fireworks 😁.

We on the sea of thieves seem to have everything we want or need, a variety of missions, a variety of world events, and even a variety of customizations for our ship that have expanded over the course of the last four years. The only two things missing I would say, are secondly and larger land expansion with more land-based exploration opportunity, but even more so, an update to the existing wildlife and island systems.

Islands are currently filled with skeletons, ocean crawlers, pigs, chickens, and snakes, with the shallows update, this is overhauled. Adding new animals, and ocean life to the reefs around the islands would brighten the game and allow for more time to be spent on islands playing with wildlife and having fun with friends!

Ground Based Animals: Currently Pigs, Chicken, Snakes. These animals albeit interesting for lower-level players who need to use them for missions or who just simply playing with their favorite pig, are not game mechanics that are used for much else other than to see running around while digging for your treasure. This could change, adding new animals is something many people would enjoy, and I would hope is an addition that could come in this update.

Wild Boars- We see constant reference to wild boars on rock paintings everywhere. They seem to have just disappeared, until now! Wild boars will drop a larger "Trophy Pork Chop" and can charge and knock back a player if that player gets too close to it. Their meat can be sold to hunters call and can be eaten as well for new food types! I would say triple the current pig health would be reasonable and would allow for hunting with a bit more challenge, as they run away from players who are shooting at them.

Monkeys- Pets are not the only place monkeys should exist, I realize how difficult it would be to implement which is why I don't know how realistic they are, but if possible, having monkeys that you can interact with via feeding and will swing from tree to tree would be amazing. These monkeys would be in different mood sets, angry meaning they will throw bananas at you and attempt to get you to leave the island, meaning you will have to scare them away with a gunshot, friendly meaning they will approach you and allow you to feed them, also potentially showing players where ground loot may be on the surface of islands, this would be an awesome addition to the game.

Jaguars- These are aggressive animals that will attempt to kill you, I would love to hear about these potential features that they could have. I think if you are alone, they could attempt to target you more than if you are in a group and would be less common than all other animal types meaning that their fur, when killed that will drop will be a specialty to sell to Merrick.

An update to the shorelines around islands would be included as well, adding reefs that are explorable and home to a plethora of new aquatic life. These reefs can vary in size between islands and allow players to level up hunters call via exploration instead of fishing and gemstones. They can be used to house new mission types and allow players to stay and interact with islands more often.

Sea Based Animals

Manta rays- These would be incredibly awesome! Rays are an addition that could potentially allow for a whole new shoreline lifeform. Rays come in different colors similar to fish and can be hunted and ridden to traverse the shoreline as fast as possible. Riding a ray means you climb on its back and can control in for a limited amount of time of 10 seconds before it flails around and kicks you off. These lifeforms also will eat fish and keep close to islands. In addition to this their meat is sellable to hunter's call.

Electric Eells- Eells are huntable and also can be used as food the same as manta rays. Electric Eells are killable albeit difficult and come in different colors as well, they can electrocute you when a sword is used and if close enough with a gun. Eells have a passive nature but become aggressive if you attempt to get close or fight it. Eells however, do also stay in their own island areas.

Sharks- In the current form there is only one variation, however, with these sharks' surrounding shorelines and are different colors and rarities it will enhance the experience with them in the seas.

Fish- Currently fish swimming around and being eaten by Rays, Eells, and Sharks would be awesome. Players can carry a jar with them and trap a fish in it, after this selling it to Merrick will result in a reputation and gold boost higher than that of cooked fish, this would be a way to integrate missions with Hunters Call, meaning you will claim a mission in order to gain the jars and then sell fish in the jars to Merrick to complete the mission the same as the merchant alliance animal deliveries.

IN ADDITION, HUNTERS CALL LEVEL IS RAISED TO 75 IN ORDER TO INCREASE AMOUNT NEED TO USE THIS UPDATE!

@bupzy Could call this update "The Shallows"?

@bluerexdino I believe the emissary should be locked to level 50 and above, as hunters call should be a grind for everyone.

@itz-majman Well, I am sorry, but that shouldn't force them to sacrifice content.

Moby-Duck, when?

It'd be fantastic to have this whale just swallow ships and blow out loot (maybe with a multiplier) with no way for players to respond but just watch in dismay.

Oh, and get a 'From the belly of the whale' commendation.

I just be happy with just visual things no interaction that it just disappears when you get too far away from it and it always stays a good distance away so you never get too close but it's still there to see one thing I would like is new shark models tiger shark or Hammerhead instead of the normal two models have the different type of sharks spawn in that is my two cents love y'all

@galactic-geek said in There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life):

@bluerexdino said in There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life):

@bupzy Yes all we need is something to look at or do while we are sailing so much time is wasted sailing and it can be quite boring. The only thing to do is play music and look at the empty horizon there just needs to be a little bit more life in the game.

There's plenty to look at and do while sailing. You can watch for other ships, man the sails, go fishing, cook something, try out a new look, play with a pet, have a conversation with the crew, gather supplies from nearby islands, etc. Life is what you make of it, and the same applies to the Pirate Life.

While true, I think the game could use just slightly more endemic life. Not a lot, just a little. The ocean does seem semi-lifeless at times. It would just give it that extra polish ontop of the polish.

That said though, I do semi-agree that "life" should be something that adds to the game. New mechanical benefit, ways to play, or ways to progress. I figured this was going to be the update upcoming in my theorycrafting because of the meg event, but as it turns out, it's Captaincy - which, HOORAY! FINALLY! Very excited for it. But the Hunter's Call does need a bit of an upgrade, I think. Seaposts should serve more purpose if they're taking up map space on the Sea of Thieves. (However little that may actually be) We need more things to hunt, and it shouldn't just be limited to fishing. Hunting various different kinds of large sea creatures/monsters would be pretty cool.

I don't even need to read your post, there's a very simple answer:
There are 10000 features that would make sense in the game that Rare could add, they just can't add them all. If whales aren't in the game ut is probably because they think other stuff has priority over it, that's it.

@pellahh based

@bupzy Nah they have a point

As cool as it would be to have sea life, I think there are things much cooler that could be added instead of having you sit underwater for a minute or looking at a whale in the distance instead of sailing out and finding treasure.

That's really the flaw of the idea, extra environment where not even Rare has thought the seas have needed. Chances are these ideas were already passed around and turned down because of reasons like we've mentioned above. A content update, which is what Seasons have done pretty exact so far, should NOT be sea life, they try not to bundle a bunch of hard-to-implement features into an update. I'm not sitting there for 3 months waiting for something neat to do just because you want a sea bed and unkillable whales. No.

@nex-stargaze think of all the grey space that could not be grey

@michael-b4418 said in There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life):

Ground Based Animals: Currently Pigs, Chicken, Snakes. These animals albeit interesting for lower-level players who need to use them for missions or who just simply playing with their favorite pig, are not game mechanics that are used for much else other than to see running around while digging for your treasure.

This sentence I bolded just invalidated your entire suggestion within a suggestion for one reason:

You don't fully understand the uses of island animals past their environmental effect.

How are you going to diss the current state of island animals without mentioning the one reason people actually like animals on islands?

MEAT.

Meat that when eaten, restore 50% of your health when fully cooked, and has 25% extra health restoration to boot. If I'm sailing around doing voyages that don't involve keeping the animals safe from harm, they are being slaughtered and put on my stove for cooking so that when I get into a tough fight, I can eat a fully cooked chicken and stay in the fight longer than depending on some weak little bananas that won't out-heal 2 sword combos.

@bupzy

One thing it's suggesting something, another is saying there's no reason not to add something or explain why something could be added (and I don't get the point of doing this tbh). So no, it's not arrogant to not read a post that claims "There's no excuse why Rare can't add x" as my point is a reason that goes beyond whatever someone could say, which was proven as you give the "can't add everything" for granted, the fact that it's obvious doesn't mean it shouldn't be part of the discussion.

I've read the post and yeah, you mention priority in literally one sentence so you actually gave yourself a reason why they probably won't add whales, at least in the near future. You also stated that it's obvious that Rare can't add everything while answering to my comment.

@nex-stargaze Okay and? That’s all, there is no substantive use for them other than that.

1. Whales I would consider they are already in the game (Kinda) Megs...
2. ''There is no excuse why X/Y/Z is not in the game yet'' Your talking about a pretty big resource heavy addition.
   May I mind you that the game servers is still limited to 5 ships/16 players instead of the standard 6 ship (24 players) for a good reason, and it's been month.
   Please I don't want to go down to 4 ships and 12 players just because you want to add resource intense Marine life...

I still like the idea of having visuals such as crabs on beaches in some regions and jelly fish here and there like you stated. but adding MORE PvE marine life is annoying, Sirens are annoying to deal with and just feels painful to deal with at time trying to focus on a task and having 4 of them swim up to you and cause havoc...

@ix-indi-xi said in There's No Excuse Why Rare Can't Add Whales (and other marine life):

1. Whales I would consider they are already in the game (Kinda) Megs... Theres already variations of it. I don't see the need of whales and what cause will they have?
   Same goes for Dolphins, ok it would be AMAZING to have dolphins pop up and even give your ship a speed boost based off RNG Imagine, but again, those take up precious server resources... I don't want to play on a already laggy/buggy game...

2. ''There is no excuse why X/Y/Z is not in the game yet'' Your talking about a potential pretty big resource heavy addition that can impact the servers negatively.
   May I mind you that the game servers is still limited to 5 ships/16 players instead of the standard 6 ship (24 players) for a good reason, and it's been months that it has been toned down...

Please I don't want to go down to 4 ships and 12 players just because you want to add resource intense Marine life...

I still like the idea of having visuals such as crabs on beaches in some regions and jelly fish here and there like you stated. but adding MORE PvE marine life is annoying, Sirens are annoying to deal with and just feels painful to deal with at time trying to focus on a task and having 4 of them swim up to you and cause havoc...