captain status.

@kin-h4chi
Arguments AGAINST

2.unfair to people that randomly join sloop games. True but is it fair to work hard to get a dozen peices of loot just to have a random join and force your ship to sink?

lol just make your own arguments and let other people argue against you. Especially if you're just gonna slip in counter arguments into the "against" section.
I'm all for a captain status, but I would make the captain absolute and not allow for mutiny. The captain would be the person who started the whole ship and been there for the longest time. Some randoms that join late can just leave and join another crew if they don't like the captain or start their own ship. Some other privileges I would give the captain:

1. ability to take helm from another crew member, so they can't hijack the ship by not getting off the helm.
2. choose voyages. The idea of everyone voting was neat on paper, but in practice it's just an annoyance where you wait for everyone go back and vote. like I said before if you don't like the voyage/captain just join a different crew or start your own.

from my experience and other that i've seen and talked to, it's always the randoms that join that troll. People who start their own ship, stock them up, and get everything in order are rarely the ones trying to screw the whole crew over. When you have random pairs of people they can easily vote the original sailor into the brig and troll him/her. It would be the same in your system where 2 people can just join a troll the captain selecting mutiny and trying to get them to quit out.

I argued for very much the same thing five months ago

Voting for a captain is definitely historically accurate. I believe it must require an absolute majority: a solo sailor may declare himself captain; otherwise two votes in a crew of two of three, or three votes in crew of four.

Captains should have right to name and customize vessel, brig crew members, choose and cancel missions, and maroon sailors.

They wanna sort the athena 10 title out before anything else

Captain status will come in Captaincy update

The main point of this suggestion is to help the sloop player with the toxic random. And from what I seen is the arguments against this are still the same as today without it

@betsill

The point of making a rebuttal is to stop the obvious argument against.

I like the voyage idea but the helm one not so much

@kin-h4chi you problay know that this could be used for trolling mate

@closinghare208

So can the current system

@ii-pin3appl3-ii

This doesn't really change the set up for the brig and galleon games as the munity option as I described would act as a counter balance. But there is a big problem with toxic players on sloops. Unlike the other 2 there's no way to counter act this accept by making it a closed game. But then your forced to look for another player that may or may not be toxic, once they are in the game the player can only leave and start all over. So a sloop player has random matchmaking in hopes they aren't toxic or search for one and hope they aren't toxic. You could say that invite your friends to play with you or just play solo but some people don't want to play solo and can't really make friends who had the game if you don't need them and play with them.

@goedecke-michel

if you haven't noticed already there is actually a little anchor high school players then who's currently hosting you that game. This is to help stabilize it for the other crew members. Under most conditions It's usually the first player to be in the game. If it was 4 players who randomly joined at the same time but it would probably have to go into the one that got into the game first or is randomly decided

Unless you are in a RP scenario, people don't like to listen to random strangers. Also the idea of one person having more power then themselves doesn't sound appealing. I am more for using the LFG to vet players with like minded goals. While already being in a closed crew. The most I would be for is adding a vote kick system (Not Brig). Vetting doesn't always work. Unfortunately with a vote kick it doesn't help sloops, since their is no majority.

@nabberwar

Hence the mutiny system which counter balances the title so the crew can decide they don't want them as Captain they can remove that title from them. Briggs and gallys would pretty much remain the same where as sloops get that defensive option

@bottledbuttfart

Butt only doing closed crews makes it harder for the individual that's new and has no one yo play with

@kin-h4chi yes we all know that not trying to be sarcatic

@ii-pin3appl3-ii

Is the reason why it shouldn't be permanent is because then that Captain who has the captain status could have used that power which is why the muni system counterbalance that.

If it was a Sloop the captain status would remain with whoever started the game. This is because I let suggested above to Mutiny would require two or more votes. And if two players did get on to troll someone on a brig or galleon and there's only one other player who's trying to play the game on that ship they could still abused the braking system that's currently in place.

As I've already discussed above this system that I'm suggesting would make it no different than a little tired he currently happening on Briggs and galleons. But what allows Loop players to be able to do something about the toxic players that join their game

@sucthybigguns

That's already possible though. And defeats the purpose of the sloop change

@goedecke-michel

Otherwise I am against the fact that the first player is the captain. How should that work - I start with random crew, the ship is started for the first time in the game, we all land as newcomers in the tavern. Who is the captain now?

No one. If you start with an Open crew and a new ship, no one is captain unless the crew voted for one.

But someone could start a Closed ship, make themselves captain and then open it up. In that case, you would either accept their leadership, rally the crew to vote them out, or leave.

@surveyorpete

There's always a first to connect to a game and it's usually the host of the game