Arena Achievements

But it creates a slight issue when trying to complete this game.

Fact they will continue to add new achievements...nobody is completing this game until its End.

They’re counted as legacy achievements. You don’t get anything special for 100%’ing it anyway so it makes no difference other than personal irritation.

1.) What's the harm? It harms the value of having what those achievements give you. You had to actually achieve them in a PvP game mode, so they're sort of a badge of skill.
2.) Again, devalues the work of the people who legitimately achieved them.
3.) Why should the people who earned those achievements not be allowed to have them because you missed out? The people who earned them earned them. I could have earned them, but I missed out. I started playing 2 years before arena was closed, I could have done it but I didn't, and I don't complain about it.
4.) I would love to see a form of arena return but it's just not likely. Arena used dedicated servers outside of adventure, which were costly compared to usage and also required a separate team to maintain. Also I don't think that giga kegs should be part of any form of Arena. They're just too powerful. Most times they go off they basically guarantee a sink. They almost certainly won't add arena back into the game, the closest you might get is the ability to load arena maps in custom servers, but that will not give you the commendations or achievements.

I’d love to see arena return or at least the sea dogs repurposed and some of the commendations return. I was level 49 when arena closed, I grinded that last week of arena trying to get to 50 and fell short.

The main issue I heard a lot was people were tired of being spawned camped by sweats farming kills and so they just avoided arena all together but not for a lack of interest in the mode but they didn’t feel like being someone’s punching bag.

Rare gave up too easily on arena, never bothered to innovate, they are taking more steps on hourglass as of the last dev update than they ever did for arena.

It’s an absolute shame to take away the opportunity for people to experience and obtain items from the arena when the items were never meant to be time limited and therefore people never felt obligated to grind arena, most played it casually until the kill farming became popular then it died out fast.

The arena was by far the best PvP/Mode that we’ve ever seen in Sea of Thieves, it’s just a shame the players ruined it and Rare refused to make appropriate changes.

If we learned anything from hourglass is that people do in fact enjoy PvP modes, the difference is, hourglass doesn’t reward players for farming kills like Arena did.

The way I see it, rare should’ve removed the commendation for weapon kills since arena was naval focused, and instead created a second mode like TDM and put the weapon commendations there. Skeleton forts would’ve made great TDM/FFA islands.

@potatosord
Even if they unlocked the achievements for everyone, it wouldn't hurt Arena players.
They still have all of their 10/10 unobtainable cosmetics.
But it would benefit a majority of the playerbase, who are locked out from achievement completion.

Of course it would be better to just reopen the Arena (which should have been done years ago), but unlocking them for everyone should be the bare minimum.

Rare has consistently said their decision in arena is final, and addressed Xbox achievements specifically in the closure announcement and faq.

https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/145614/closing-the-arena

@dermasterbob You say that as if achievement completion is something even 0.1% of players go for. Achievements are meant to be achieved. There is no actual benefit to any player to having those achievements, especially for free.

@mr-spx-ss "They really like the game so they should just have it" is a stupid take. I have like 1500 hours in this game, I have over 500 combined levels across both hourglass factions. So because I'm that devoted to the game, they should give me gold bones and gold ghost for free right? I've sailed 500+ miles for PvP factions, I have over 70% commendation completion. I'm devoted enough that they should just give it to me right? Wrong. You don't just get something because you like it, you have to earn it. If they retired hourglass, I would be annoyed I didn't get gold bones before they did it, but I would accept it. And if there was achievements for getting to 1000 in the PvP factions I wouldn't cry about those either.

@potatosord said in Arena Achievements:

@dermasterbob You say that as if achievement completion is something even 0.1% of players go for. Achievements are meant to be achieved. There is no actual benefit to any player to having those achievements, especially for free.

If they have no actual benefit, then it shouldn't be a problem unlocking them for everyone so i can finally get my 100%.
Achievments have no meaning if getting 100% is impossible.
Rare could only make that happen, because they are part of Microsoft, other games would have to remoove them or unlock them for everyone.

@strangeness said in Arena Achievements:

Rare has consistently said their decision in arena is final, and addressed Xbox achievements specifically in the closure announcement and faq.

https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/145614/closing-the-arena

Rare has also consistently stated that Fov will never exeed 90 and that quickswap will never return, saying those decisions are final.
So unlocking those legacy achievements for everyone, or rereleasing the Arena, is not of the table.

I can also look for year old threads, of rare stating fov will never exeed 90, but we'll still have 110 ingame.

@potatosord

1. It “hurts” no one…….

Don’t give sails, titles, or rewards, just check the box for those doing 100%

2. It sounds like the OP would’ve done the comms given the chance. Seeing as how the last weeks of arena had massive waves of win trading so all doing it could get all the comms goes back to it’s not hurting anyone.

If you are cool with people cheesing it to heck and back then unlocking it doesn’t hurt anything or anyone.

3. Some, to include me, are doing 100% and it’s frustrating to have things arbitrarily locked, just remove the comms from the game if you think it’ll truly hurt someone.

Stop gatekeeping shrug

@jon-sea-nah They're not arbitrarily locked and this isn't gatekeeping. They are locked because they come from a game mode you can no longer access and to not devalue the efforts those players put in, they were not repurposed. Other achievements have been repurposed to continue to be unlockable, but as far as I know XBL achievements cannot be removed from the game once added. They physically cannot remove the achievements from XBL. They did remove them from Steam, so if you really really really wanna see the 100% number, do it on steam.

@potatosord so pop a patch in that just checks the slots. If you aren’t getting any titles, pixels, or other stuff for it and it’s just a check. I have zero issue with it. Let dudes/dudettes 100% the game. It’s not an issue.

What does not allowing players 100% something that is no longer in the game with no rewards behind it unlocked matter? Does it affect your pirate? How you play? It’s so a person can have 100% ne t to the game. That’s it.

Heck next year let me open up Arena Cena 3.0 with my server subscription and we can run it back like that. Defending someone not 100% a game, as you physically cannot, seems quite pointless other than to gatekeep.

Rare already has released pay for curses, re-releasing previously time/event locked cosmetics and ship sets.

It feels like some people in this forum just hate the fact that some people have different goals or play styles. The gatekeeping needs to stop. I played before we had sup crates, do new players need to return to this for a few years before they get that feature?

@jon-sea-nah How does it affect yours? Do you genuinely get less enjoyment out of the game because you can't see a number go to 100%? Do you actually feel like you are slighted by the fact that you missed out on a game mode and now can't get the achievements linked to it?

You want this to be gatekeeping so bad, but I'm not on the other side of that gate either dude. I legit could not care less that I will not get achievements I didn't play for. That's the point of achievements. To achieve them. It's not gatekeeping for a system which rewards you for actions to exist, even if that system includes things you can no longer do. You can no longer achieve them, so why should you be awarded them? How is that gatekeeping, and if you are justified in your stance, why should I not just get both HG gold curses because I really really really want them?

@potatosord I am doing all my comms, do I PERSONALLY care? Nope

I will defend people that just want to 100% the game, it’s a simple request and 1 that should be possible, from people that get on here and just tell them to get bent.

“No!” Ok but why? Who does it hurt? The same people that had time limited cosmetics that Rare released for $ in the emporium? Those with curses? Oh you can’t rebind buy those and cheese those.

I would probably say no to all titles/cosmetics,ship sets/weapons but to just put checkmarks in the boxes……. Seems like it hurts no one. If you don’t want it that’s cool too, but stop just flat out refusing and stomping on peoples posts for having a different goal in the game than you.

Hurts no one, provides no real “benefit” to anyone, so why does it matter?

@jon-sea-nah It hurts no one to give me all the gold curses either so they should just do that because I am clearly the bestest boy who loves the video game very much. Get real man.

@potatosord lol no you are comparing something that is a long grind that gives you a …… wait for it……. CURSE!

The checkmarks youd never even know if that player had…… 1 is a “flex” 1 is just letting a person 100% a game that THEY see, not you. They never get any cosmetics or titles…… so how would YOU even know if someone had it?

See the difference. 1 you get cosmetics aka a curse, what I suggested no other player would ever even know about.

Not sure if you track comms or even care, but something tells me if you logged in and saw it was just checked off you wouldn’t come in here and demand it’s reversed and taken back off. You wouldn’t care. Someone wants it and now we gotta say how it’d break SOT if comms no longer possible got a check or removed

@xxbadlandsx you’re gonna find that certain people on the forums shoot down every idea and bash others. Then you’ll see me getting warnings as I reply.

I agree and offered a couple solutions as well and I was told I’m sad in my life.

I feel ya, I hear ya, hope a solution is met.

Take care out there