This commendation is a pain to complete, not only do you have to do a voyage that consists of essentially nothing but lengthy sail time, 25 times. And you have to deal with the roar aimbotting your ship. but half the time while you are fighting her she just walks over a geyser and dies, which does not give you credit to the commendation.
-edit, i would also like to add the annoyance of the bosses disappearing if you die/leave the island for any reason. it's a much more rare issue, but i dislike sailing all the way out to the roar, just to start the boss fight, have to go back to my boat, and then the boss just disappears thusly negating the whole voyage.
killing the Duchess for A Noble Defeat is a pain.
+1 on this. I don't mind having to do the Voyage, but the Skeleton Lord commendation credit bug needs to get fixed before I continue trying to defeat them. If any of the Skeleton Lords are defeated with gunpowder kegs, fire, geysers, etc (essentially anything not a player weapon) credit is not given for the specific Skeleton Lord commendation.
As the OP noted, this is especially frustrating in the Roar when the Duchess either walks or transports to an active geyser location and she is ultimately defeated by the geyser. Please implement a fix for this Rare!
@fuzzyh1ghland3r My complaint is not that she is hard to kill, about a minute of swording and a little fruit and she is very easy to solo. it is that the activity is particularly unfun due to the lengthy sail to the roar over and over, coupled with the fact that several things, kegs included, will cause credit to not be given. especially annoying when she ports on top of a geyser and kills herself, which is totally out of my control. I am currently at 8 kills, but 4 credits this morning.
@king-deka yes it does, but you do the whole fort and have a 1/3 chance that she is the one who spawns. certainly doesn't cut down on the time of this commendation.
@fuzzyh1ghland3r said in killing the Duchess for A Noble Defeat is a pain.:
@promotordj the cannons may do the trick my friend.
This doesn't fix the issue. How to kill shouldn't matter is the point.
If I lunge and get her into a geyser and she dies, should count. If I spawn her in any way and she dies, should count. End of story.
The Despawn is even worse and is quite neglectful. I have done this mission and while fighting the island erupts. I get killed by island and she despawns... over and done with. Its a bit of a joke and a oversight.
We all know how to kill things, this isn't constructive and we all know is an issue.
@savagexxxone said in killing the Duchess for A Noble Defeat is a pain.:
@fuzzyh1ghland3r said in killing the Duchess for A Noble Defeat is a pain.:
@promotordj the cannons may do the trick my friend.
This doesn't fix the issue. How to kill shouldn't matter is the point.
If I lunge and get her into a geyser and she dies, should count. If I spawn her in any way and she dies, should count. End of story.
The Despawn is even worse and is quite neglectful. I have done this mission and while fighting the island erupts. I get killed by island and she despawns... over and done with. Its a bit of a joke and a oversight.
We all know how to kill things, this isn't constructive and we all know is an issue.
Exactly the point, she is not HARD to kill. Its that there are multiple things that cause you to lose credit on a commendation that is turning out to be rather tedious by nature and virtue of outside factors.
@KING-DEKA it does count.
@SCUBAMASTER4000 but it does let you fight her with out geysers ruining your kill.
@scubamaster4000 Interesting, I did it 1 time with 3 people and 2 more times with just me and my wife and didn't have any issues.
All we did was drop the skull outside the cave, met the Duchess and just gunned her down while killing the adds. we stayed inside the cave and never brought her to shore so never experienced a geyser killing her.
A crew mate and I dispatched both using a mixture of personal weapons, fire bombs and kegs. We did not get credit, but I assumed it was because we were doing a “gift” voyage rather than an “ashen” one.
I agree. No matter, how they die, it should be enough to have got one sword/gun/cannon shot home to get credit. Alternatively, pay any crew with a representative on the island, or ship in its waters.
@surveyorpete I completely agree. While I've had decent luck with my kills. controlling for non-player kills is a pain it is possible. Any method of kill should work and it should be crew proximity based, just like Fotd, normal forts, and akelly boats.
If u have a Friend, let him start also a giftseeker, switch ships after each voyage to comprement the sailing Time and one of u stay on ship so if u die duchess will Not respawn, fight her in the cave Not outside if there is no geysir showing up komm her quickly, blunderbuss will to the work, i did it that way yesterday i was on 4 times duchess now 7 times and im done, just play smart
@scubamaster4000 Forget not getting the credit for the kill if a geyser gets her. I'm just straight up no getting the credit at all. Set her on fire, blew her up with some kegs then unloaded my entire blunder into her and she fell. Did I get credit for the kill? Nope.
I have gotten credit for killing both the helmsman and the scoundrel, multiple times, by using kegs and only kegs. Stacking four or sometimes five kegs on the gift before tapping it, then immediately picking up a keg, lighting it, dropping it, and running. 100% of the damage coming from the keg explosions, killing them immediately. If the explosion doesn't kill them, the resulting fire can, and that will not give credit, but if you can get the explosion to take their health from 100% to nothing, it will count. At least it has for me.
@fuzzyh1ghland3r said in killing the Duchess for A Noble Defeat is a pain.:
Use them cannons and kegs good sir
Killing them with barrels dont count as a kill.
@faceyourdemon maybe not for everyone, but I have gotten credit for numerous kills using kegs and only kegs.
@testakleze Maybe it was the after effect the fire that counted as a kill but im pretty sure that the explosion never counted for me and many others.
ahh bunch of PL talking, can I just point out how hard this is for none PL.
They have to do 25 forts to get the kills on the Duchess, where we can just put down a voyage.think the golden nr of gunpowder kegs is:
3 kegs an a little fighting 3-5 sniper/blunder shots, that way you are sure the fire from the kegs dont kill her.
or 5 kegs, that kills her right away, but there is a change that the fire gonna kill her, if the placement is off.All they would have to do is make Skeleton Lords immune to the geysers. Have them walk through unscathed, or launch them like it does with pirates. Or even better than that, have her geyser/barrel/fire defeat count towards anyone on the fort or with the appropriate voyage. Or they could make it so the fort is dormant and doesn't erupt mid-voyage. Or they could randomize which skeleton lords appear instead of making them region-specific. Or...
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