The Kraken is super overpowered

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  • Hello, I think the Kraken may be my favorite part of the game, assign a designated repair person that stays below the entire time. Here are some tips:

    1. The Kraken scales difficulty with the size of your ship, a sloop crew will have to kill less tentacles than a brig or galleon. After watch popcorn's video on how to solo the kraken (available on this forum) I can solo him now on a sloop.

    2. When you get wrapped, shoot the shorter of the arms, not the wrapped arm itself.

    3. When the inhalation attack begins, get below deck. The quicker everyone gets their butt below deck the faster the attack seems to end.

    4. When the Kraken winds back to slap the ship, attack the charging tentacle to reduce damage of the slap attack.

    5. Don't go for the loot until it's dead. Unless it's something great... two nights ago I couldn't resist grabbing a crate of bone dust, but it left my team vulnerable. Only one person should go off the ship at a time, being extra careful if you are on a sloop. If one of your crewmates gets pulled off deck, and someone's in the water getting treasure, it's going to go bad fast.

    6. Keep top deck patched. Your designated repair person should be going up to the top deck (galleon only obviously) and patching mid. The rocking of the ship will spill water through mid deck. Your repair person shouldn't be just hanging around, keep the whole ship patched and keep plenty of planks and cannonballs!

    Do not fear the beasty!

  • @sir-minutemen said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    My lvl 50/50/50+6

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  • @sir-minutemen https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/78963/kraken-guide-incoming-hopefully-with-video-edit-part-2/29

    guide for killing Kraken. Mama K is really easy to beat. You just have to be observant and know what to do and recognize the changes they made to her.

    Before changes you could kill or ignore the kraken with just your sword and guns. That was too weak. Now you actually have to use your cannons and be aware of whats going on around you instead of just running around repairing and shooting with your rifle or pistol.

    She is really easy to kill. Hope this helps you out.

  • @dreamcrusher401 Great strats...except the Kraken covers the hull hole on a brig completely and can trap everyone down below...sinking the boat.

    Broken af for the brig. Bad game design.

  • I really don't know why people are struggeling to defeat the kraken..
    It is not that hard, but you have to focus and don't just jump around.. There are some good tips on this forum especially with the topics from @xCALYPT0x

  • @uberkull sagte in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @dreamcrusher401 Great strats...except the Kraken covers the hull hole on a brig completely and can trap everyone down below...sinking the boat.

    Broken af for the brig. Bad game design.

    Not broken at all...shoot the wrapped tentacle off and all is fine

  • @schwammlgott lol...not when your ship is taking on water. The tentacle takes over 30 shots from guns with a crew of three as it scales in difficulty. If your boat has holes that you were tryjng to patch, you are done.

    Bad game design on the brig.

  • @sir-minutemen said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    The game isn't unplayable with the Kraken overpowered like this.
    My lvl 50/50/50+6

    So, the game is not unplayable... That's good.

    Are you saying that the kraken is overpowered despite your level? Because the Reputation level does nothing for your pirate. He won't grow stronger. I'd have figured you'd known after the time it takes to reach pirate legend.

  • @uberkull said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @schwammlgott lol...not when your ship is taking on water. The tentacle takes over 30 shots from guns with a crew of three as it scales in difficulty. If your boat has holes that you were tryjng to patch, you are done.

    Bad game design on the brig.

    You're just doing it wrong.
    Hint: Don't shoot the one that's "hugging" your boat, instead use cannonballs on tentacles nearby.

  • The Kraken is doesn't feel overpowered to me at all. Shoot tentacles that are trying to suck you up. Keep you ship stocked. If you don't have enough supplies, try and flee.

    There's lots of videos of pirates fending off the Kraken in a very short period of time with high efficiency, perhaps you should watch some and you could learn some tricks.

  • I find the Kraken difficult but not impossible as a solo on a sloop.

    If I'm low on planks and cannonballs I just run away.

    Once you hear the music and see the ink, do a 180, the nearest border of the ink is behind you. Nope on out of there at full sail and then just go around the ink.

  • @crimsonraziel sagte in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @uberkull said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @schwammlgott lol...not when your ship is taking on water. The tentacle takes over 30 shots from guns with a crew of three as it scales in difficulty. If your boat has holes that you were tryjng to patch, you are done.

    Bad game design on the brig.

    You're just doing it wrong.
    Hint: Don't shoot the one that's "hugging" your boat, instead use cannonballs on tentacles nearby.

    This

    You're definitly doing wrong...

  • Look, I feel it's properly balanced... the real-life Kraken always seemed a bit flimsy to me, so I'm glad they made it a challenge :)

  • @sir-minutemen
    I only think The Kraken is overpowered against the Brigantine or when outnumbered on the Galleon.

    Otherwise it's perfectly fine after we understand how it's new mechanics works.

    It's totally required to be aware of the tentacles trying to suck pirates. You need to get down those first of anything else. Shoot them with your pistol and sniper.

  • @crimsonraziel said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @uberkull said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @schwammlgott lol...not when your ship is taking on water. The tentacle takes over 30 shots from guns with a crew of three as it scales in difficulty. If your boat has holes that you were tryjng to patch, you are done.

    Bad game design on the brig.

    You're just doing it wrong.
    Hint: Don't shoot the one that's "hugging" your boat, instead use cannonballs on tentacles nearby.

    Yup its the the head of the one that wrapped ya you want. it will be the shorter arm next to boat. few shots is all it will take.

  • @sir-minutemen disse em The Kraken is super overpowered:

    The game isn't unplayable with the Kraken overpowered like this.
    My lvl 50/50/50+6

    Because SHE IS THE KRAKEN!

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  • Yep I will have to fully agree

  • @sir-minutemen said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    The game isn't unplayable with the Kraken overpowered like this.
    My lvl 50/50/50+6

    The kraken is not overpowered, just requires one to learn the internal workings of the fight.

    I have been sunk once by the creature lurking in the darkest of waters and only fled it a single time, as I knew it would have been a lost cause.

    Levels are an indication of time spent, not an indication of mastery of the seas. To become a master one must be able to adapt to the challenges of the depths.

    Analyze, adapt and learn the flows of the seas and become a better pirate.

  • @Ktingaling Thanks for the shout out :)

    @sir-minutemen Here's another resource: https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/79462/video-how-to-solo-the-kraken

  • @schwammlgott said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @crimsonraziel sagte in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @uberkull said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @schwammlgott lol...not when your ship is taking on water. The tentacle takes over 30 shots from guns with a crew of three as it scales in difficulty. If your boat has holes that you were tryjng to patch, you are done.

    Bad game design on the brig.

    You're just doing it wrong.
    Hint: Don't shoot the one that's "hugging" your boat, instead use cannonballs on tentacles nearby.

    This

    You're definitly doing wrong...

    Honestly, people need to learn to read. How do you shoot cannon balls when you are inside the hull repairing holes and bailing? If you get in a senario where all three are down in the hull helping to bail, repair, or getting more cannonballs and the tentacle goes over tje brig stairwell hole, you are trapped and screwed.

    The brig is poorly designed all together. You have the cannonball barrel amd wood barrel up front, yet then you stick the banana barrel up front on right side...then you have gun/ammo up front where banana barrel should be. Then let’s talk about the map table location...all the way up front? And finally the barbie dressup chests are just thrown on the left side ramdomly.

    And the stairwell hole...too small. You can run right over it at times like its not there.

    Bad design.

  • @cotu42 said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @sir-minutemen said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    The game isn't unplayable with the Kraken overpowered like this.
    My lvl 50/50/50+6

    The kraken is not overpowered, just requires one to learn the internal workings of the fight.

    I have been sunk once by the creature lurking in the darkest of waters and only fled it a single time, as I knew it would have been a lost cause.

    Levels are an indication of time spent, not an indication of mastery of the seas. To become a master one must be able to adapt to the challenges of the depths.

    Analyze, adapt and learn the flows of the seas and become a better pirate.

    You are not a real pirate and not a master of the sea. Let it go...

  • @uberkull Here is a link of me fighting the Kraken SOLO---ON--A---BRIG.

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/78963/kraken-guide-edit-part-3/34

    I did this because of the constant threads still saying its impossible on a brig. Its not. Its easy. Even if it wraps the stairs, its easy.

    I did this solo. Second video is going to be in like 30mins but I did this all solo on the brig.

    I'm sorry but your argument is flawed. Its all about learning how to pay attention and being aware of your surroundings and whats going on. Instead of freaking out about things, stay calm, take a breath, and just pay attention.

  • One word....sloop.

    Likely already mentioned. You can kill it easy in a sloop.

  • @xultanis-dragon said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @uberkull Here is a link of me fighting the Kraken SOLO---ON--A---BRIG.

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/78963/kraken-guide-edit-part-3/34

    I did this because of the constant threads still saying its impossible on a brig. Its not. Its easy. Even if it wraps the stairs, its easy.

    I did this solo. Second video is going to be in like 30mins but I did this all solo on the brig. Its all about learning how to pay attention and being aware of your surroundings and whats going on.

    Your argument is flawed.

    I never said it was impossible. I’ve beat it plenty of times. I said the brig is a bad design. And the kraken exposes that bad design.

    Comical with all these ‘master of the sea’ videos. No one cares.

  • @uberkull No its not bad design, because it wrapping the stairs does not automatically mean you are going to sink.

    1. If all 3 people are in the bottom when it wraps then that is not bad design, that is bad playing. Learn, adapt, get better.

    2. Just because it covers the stairs does not mean you are automatically done and over.

    3. If your crew is good enough it wouldn't even wrap you 1 time.

    The whole engagement is dependent on the crew. Ipso facto, get better.

  • @uberkull said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @cotu42 said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    @sir-minutemen said in The Kraken is super overpowered:

    The game isn't unplayable with the Kraken overpowered like this.
    My lvl 50/50/50+6

    The kraken is not overpowered, just requires one to learn the internal workings of the fight.

    I have been sunk once by the creature lurking in the darkest of waters and only fled it a single time, as I knew it would have been a lost cause.

    Levels are an indication of time spent, not an indication of mastery of the seas. To become a master one must be able to adapt to the challenges of the depths.

    Analyze, adapt and learn the flows of the seas and become a better pirate.

    You are not a real pirate and not a master of the sea. Let it go...

    Why so hostile and personal? There is no need for it. We are all pirates here, these are the forums of a pirate game. What's your problem with what I said? That I am confident in my abilities in a video game and disagree with the statement of the OP?

    Also you state we need to read and go on a tangent over the brigantine. I didn't see the OP state anything about a specific issue on a specific ship type, just that the creature lurking the depths of the seas is overpowered, which clearly isn't the case.

    All I am saying is is a challenging fight and needs some learning and practice, but by no means is overpowered.

  • Strange murk upon the waves, crewmates taken to their graves.

    You have met a great calamity of the sea, sinking ships and waylaying pirates.
    It is unfortunate to be attacked by a beast of the sea. Not many make it back with their lives, and even less with their treasure.

  • @xultanis-dragon Honestly I get tired of the posts that instantly poo on a obvious OP frustration post. The player was obviously frustrated at a recent Kraken encounter and decided to give his opinion.

    So instead of siding with his frustrations or giving a pve PC hug, you get these ‘master of the seas’ responses and utter bs.

    I’ve got 400+ hours in this game and this game has definitely changed for the worse in many areas. There is absolutely no reason to spring the kraken, meg, and a skelle ship all at once in Devils Roar next to a volcano erupting. Happened. Like the Kraken wrapping ships and covering starwells, That’s bad game design.

  • @uberkull No what happened was OP came to the forums to complain about something that happened in game without actually looking for information.

    So the community went ahead and gave him the information he needed. A lot of us were more patient than others but the fact still remains we gave him advice to help him. It was not a "master of the seas" as you describe it. It was "oh hey yeah you might think its hard but it REALLY is not. You just need to gain more experience and learn what to do."

    However according to you. Anytime someone comes on here and complains about something the proper thing to do is to "hug" them and tell them that they are right about the game being unfair?

    No.

    We gave him advice. We gave you advice. You tried to counter with situational problems that can be overcome with proper experience. A crew that knows what they are doing.

    Don't go adding "Kraken, skeleton ship, Meg, AND an erupting volcano" nonsense either. I solo'd the 3 bosses on a sloop.

    Instead of learning how things react you just automatically assume its a bad game design. You can overcome it with proper skill and knowledge. That means its a great game design.

    You gave your opinion. We gave you advice to overcome your grievance. You automatically got angry at us like we offended you somehow. Learn to accept advice when given.

  • @Uberkull They are offering advice to help in the future, not simply telling them to "git gud." And if everyone in your crew is getting trapped below deck by the tentacle then that indicates a momentary lack of communication and awareness in your crew. Would you say the volcanoes are poorly designed if a lavaball hits your deck wiping you all out as you stood next to one another? If you know of a threat and do not adjust to minimize your losses then that is not an indication of poor design. People have offered you ideas on how to deal with an issue that you say is frustrating you. Why is this wrong?

  • @ghostpaw I think, when people put their ideas up there for discussion, they don't necessarily want their ideas challenged.

    i.e.> when the topic of discussion is "the Kraken is too hard" they don't want people coming along and saying "no it's not, try this"

    The thing is, "the Kraken is too hard" is an opinion. So any discussions around that opinion will largely come down to whether the opinion is accurate or not.

    We also, as forum users, are used to seeing a near daily parade of posts which list X, Y and Z from the game, claim that they are broken and suggest changes that reveal that the person asking for changes doesn't fully understand the systems that they are asking for changes to. As a consequence sometimes our reactions to people's suggestions can be a little kneejerk, and maybe come across a little bit aggressive or frustrated.

    I think we can all agree to put down the cutlasses for now. Maybe the OP will look at some of the advice above and find that the Kraken isn't such a threat, maybe they'll open a post in the Feedback forum and Rare will look at it, maybe they'll just keep one crew member above decks and shoot tentacles the next time they see her. Who knows.

    What ever he's going to do, I think he should get Kraken

  • @xultanis-dragon Learn sarcasm. You completely missed the pve pc reference. This community has it’s pve care err sea masters, don’t want to leave out their hugs.

  • @boxcar-squidy He/she gets it. +1

  • Frustratingly I need two more Kraken kills to get those fine cannons and my luck has been terrible in finding even one in the last four or five nights of sailing. I have even been neglecting the Devil's Roar because I know he doesn't spawn here. I wish I knew this "trick" as my luck has been awful, but I'm sure I'll see two more soonish. I have resorted to "stealing" them from players who run away or are sunk by him.

    As for the brig's stairwell being blocked, yeah I admit it is very difficult and I have been sunk by it , particularly when playing with people I haven't sailed with before... get uncoordinated and then either everyone's down below or on deck leaving water to fill the hull. If everyone's up top and fires at the smallest arm, I have seen it unwrap very quickly and there is time to repair but it can be difficult.

    Mainly the reason I see ships sink from the Kraken is too many people off ship getting loot that's not really worth it. If you can fight it really fast and kill it quickly and drop your rowboat, you should be able to get all or most of it.

    While I am not overly concerned with the Kraken having a visible body (most mythological depictions are of the just the tentacles anyways, and there is something ominous about not seeing the entirety of the monster) I am curious if they will add more variants as seen with the megalodons.

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