@nwo-azcrack a dit dans Cross platform is ruining Sea of Thieves :
As soon as i get a chance i will. I have been foaming at the mouth to try this cause i love to jump and play around. I just started workin Tall Tales with my captain and since we dont have much time to play lately he wont let me play around with the challenge š¢
Cool! Show them PC players how it's done!
@cotu42 said in Cross platform is ruining Sea of Thieves:
You are ok with machine advantages if they are xboxes? What makes going up against the latest xbox with a SSD different to the PC with similar specs? The fact that one is not branded and created by Microsoft?
I love the fact that PC players always get generalized to have the best gear and get compared to the basic original xbox. Like everyone that plays on a PC has 3gs to drop on equipment and there are no players using external SSDs, have better internet services, special controllers, larger screens and more on the latest xboxes. If it is that common, why are you not playing on the family PC since it outclasses any console. Not to mention that the scarlet I believe will most likely also support the game, which will have a big difference in performance as well.
Nearly every advantage named in your post is also there between xboxes, be it using a SSD, newer versions with better processors, graphics and all that.
Crossplay is not ruining anyone's time nor valuing others more. If gaming is worth spending more money on for you and you can afford to do so, you will have some advantages and luxuries that others don't regardless of the platform you use or game you play. Welcome to a multiplayer game.
No no no, every pc players are equally advantaged in skills, ability and hardware, period, it is known.
Look at this smug paralysed pc players without hands, don't you hate his god darn mouth controller advantage?!
@drbullhammer I specifically have not mentioned input model. Xbox players now also have the option to use mouse and keyboard.
Like cannon control is so much nicer on controllers. While aiming a gun is nicer with a mouse. Personal preference in my opinion and is why I would be against the introction of mechanics like headshots, as it clearly favors one input over the other. People tend to forget that ship mechanics and battle are as important if not more than CQC. Will it ever be 100% balanced in all fields, no. Therefore in close matches it makes a difference, but overall skill, timing and luck are the determining factors. Losing in a game is a part of gaming, which many apparently have issues accepting and it is an online game, so the seas are challenging. You can overcome by learning to adapt your strategy and playing around your own abilities. There is always someone that you come against that is better or some situation where you lose. It is a big part of games, live in the moment.
I for one have enough areas to improve in before I can start caring about an advantage someone has by equipment. There enough pirates on the seas that outclass me and yes I have lost battles due to having 120 ping and yes it is frustrating, but I have also won battles with that ping. In the end if you outclass your opponent it will not matter what they use, just aim to be better and you will lose less. This isn't dependent on your input model or equipment.
The game does well on balance, is it perfect... never, but is it good enough. I believe it is and they consistently work on the game to improve it.
@jetorchidee97
I dont expect to break any records with the tavern jumps. Im to lazy to use my elite with the paddles to jump more efficient.
Now if we are talkin about sinkin ships or sendin ppl to the ferry..... i can do that in record time ā
@nwo-azcrack a dit dans Cross platform is ruining Sea of Thieves :
@jetorchidee97
I dont expect to break any records with the tavern jumps. Im to lazy to use my elite with the paddles to jump more efficient.Now if we are talkin about sinkin ships or sendin ppl to the ferry..... i can do that in record time ā
I've no doubts about it. I hope to see you compete in community contests (like Skullball or En Garde) or maybe stream your exploits! That would give Xbox players some hope as it is mainly PC players.
@agent-samuraii
So, rather than fighting back so you can actually win should the PC player be less skilled than you, you would rather give up and watch, so you can later look back on the battle and claim "Oh, he won because he was on PC" instead of noting that he won because you literally gave up fighting? That's the reason you think all PC players are overpowered, then. You survive for less time against PC players on average, yes. They have those elite players who actually do have several thousand dollar computers and (more importantly) a few tens of thousands of hours in the game. That doesn't mean every one of them has either of those, a good few more have the hours than the system. Some XBox players have those kinds of hours too, and they don't ever complain about losing fights against top PC players because of 'unfair equipment'. They have roughly equal skill, and sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
@ultmateragnarok said in Cross platform is ruining Sea of Thieves:
@agent-samuraii
So, rather than fighting back so you can actually win should the PC player be less skilled than you, you would rather give up and watch, so you can later look back on the battle and claim "Oh, he won because he was on PC" instead of noting that he won because you literally gave up fighting? That's the reason you think all PC players are overpowered, then. You survive for less time against PC players on average, yes. They have those elite players who actually do have several thousand dollar computers and (more importantly) a few tens of thousands of hours in the game. That doesn't mean every one of them has either of those, a good few more have the hours than the system. Some XBox players have those kinds of hours too, and they don't ever complain about losing fights against top PC players because of 'unfair equipment'. They have roughly equal skill, and sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.
Well yeah, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so obviously being willing to only face xbox players and running away from PC will skew one's perception of win/loss ratio against certain platforms.
In just about every hobby, spending more money means better performance. It's pretty much universal. In gaming however, if you want to get the best performance possible, you get a PC. As soon as you do this though, you are instantly labelled a cheater, and are subject to open hatred... by other (console) gamers! That is incredibly weird to me... And sad. We could be a community, people.
*DISCLAIMER: Not every console gamer like this, but it seems the loudest ones are. Also, PC gamers aren't all saints, and there are actual cheaters out there, but we shouldn't all carry that label. I, for one, have never even searched for cheats in any multiplayer game I've ever played.
@bumbumbac yup... having a rear paddle on the elite assigned to the A button and having the other paddle assigned to sprint makes combat much easier with the elite.
@skylerpk said in Cross platform is ruining Sea of Thieves:
I have played both platform and i have to urge the developers to remove cross platform.
The setting that allows to choose Xbox players is there as a facade.
And to the people who say, just get good, i have played this game since day one sunk both types of players due to my tactics and critical thinking, but that will not help you much against a PC player and your only hope is that you get lucky and they make severe mistakes.
It's not just their use of mouse and keyboard, but it is way more extensive than that.Usage of SSD: up to half the loading times on xbox, meaning they will be able to tend to their ship faster than you can.
Special network cards: reducing latency to extents where they are more in sync with the server. I had missed important cannon shots because the server updates slow on exbox and as soon as my seemingly perfect cannon shot fires, the latency updates my game and i missed greatly, because the seas elevation decreases and inclgreases all the time, yet pc players have that update faster and more smoothly.
144fps: this one is a no brainer. At that framerate, its easy to always stay behind your enemy and disorientate them. In certain cases you can skip out their view immediately. Your brain does not have to fill in the blanks like it does on 30 fps, thus you can be way more responsive and tactical with your movement and fighting.
PC players that say "get good" are just toxig by trying to keep these issues on the down low.
Another problem is that people say that if they cut off crossplay it would alienate the PC community. Why?
Well, its fun to win. They would be less incentivised to play against other PC players because it would be more work for the same level of gratification that until now, they've been pampered with.
Why make more effort now, they would just find somethong else to play. It is definately not because there aren't enough PC players.A voyage takes usually between 45 min to 2 hours to complete. Its not worth it if you have a high chance of sinking and on PC, while there is one, its not high. They would just go play something that can give them that gratification and only have to play 10 or 20 minutes.
I love this game but i may find it not worth playing soon if this continues.The most valuable thing we have as people is time. And i thing because of these factors, a PC players time is rewarded greater than an Xbox player at this point.
Again, on PC i have sunk endless xbox gallions solo on a sloop. Technical limitations would not allow me to do the same on xbox to PC gallions.Quick note before i finish, i do not want private servers. That would ruin the idea of the game. Just remove crossplay. If you want to pool crossplay, do it with other consoles. Not PC.
I'm sorry for any spelling mistakes. I do not have autocorrect on.
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Xbox users can have SSD's too.
Network cards are for wireless internet on PC... It has nothing to do with being somehow MORE in sync with the server. :P
If anything, wireless internet on PC actually makes their connection WORSE than with wired gaming.
PC and Xbox on the same server are, as i just said, on the same server... If you are experiencing lag spikes, and PC players aren't, that means YOUR internet is having issues... Fix your internet bro.
Anything above 30 FPS is a LUXURY, not a necessity... Meaning it's easier on the eyes, but higher FPS doesn't make you perform better.
And the amount of FPS a PC player can have, depends on their screen...
The newest 1080p screens can handle 240 fps max.
The 1440p screens can handle 144 fps max.
The 4k gaming screens can handle 60 fps max.
Now, here comes the mindblowing part... I have a 5500 USD PC with a 1440p monitor maxing out at 144 fps, so an expensive setup, in fact, an OVERKILL setup.
But Sea of Thieves is a poorly optimized game, so i frequently have my frames drop down to somewhere between 30-40.
And yet i have no problems fighting other pirates...
Because 30% of the SoT playerbase is PC, the rest are Xbox... And a large portion of the PC playerbase, also use controller.
So really, the amount of KB&M players is astonishingly low... Removing crossplay would remove 70% of player activity, for PC players, because all the Xbox players are gone.
Which means, globally, the chance of a PC player finding a populated server, is more or less not possible or extremely hard... Therefore, PC players would be alienated... Because there would be no enemy players, in a multiplayer pirate game.
The most valuable thing we have as people is time. And i thing because of these factors, a PC players time is rewarded greater than an Xbox player at this point.
No, they are rewarded equally.
You have misunderstood the game on a fundamental level, this game isn't about treasure, it's about being a pirate. That's why most of us are comfortable with farming treasure for a few hours, and then losing it in a feat of piratical interactions.
This is a social game, where each session is an adventure. You're not playing for the treasure, you're playing for the adventure, the treasure is only there, to get the adventure going.
That's why this game rewards all players, equally, regardless of what platform they are on.
The reason people are telling you to "get good", is because it's the solution to your problems. ._.
They are helping you, but you just don't want to listen. : /
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As much of an advantage as a PC player has and as much as I hate getting my arss kicked and being cyber bullied by PC gamers. I stand by this:
Iād rather get my arss kicked on a Sea full of ships then sail alone!
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