There should be an option in matchmaking settings called "Only play with players in the same ship type as you" and it should let you enable it so when you go into a server you only play with people of the same ship type. I feel this should be added because it would make fights over the fort of the damned and forts of fortune actually fair and winnable for sloops.
Option to matchmake with only your ship type
I could see it happening at some point.
Not because I want it to but because of where the game is, where it appears to be heading, and how the player based has shifted over time. Brigs and fighting brig crews becoming so unfun/unpopular due to all the combat issues/changes/imbalances/spam would largely be the culprit.
Pros and cons to it. I'd say more cons but there would always be that server that just happened to be a wild amount of fun. It'll rarely be that. It'll be a lot of cheesing on sloop servers. Brig is kinda just whatever, at least it wouldn't be wrecking sloops. Galleon servers would have tumbleweeds blowing across the water. Alliances, maybe events, not much would happen organically. Too tough to fill, too many interests outside of organic play.
The game doesn't really have the amount of players to deliver quality experiences outside of controller preferred.
Gotta have a LOT of players and a LOT of players that play organically for those servers to become interesting on a regular basis (not just cheesing).
People already spike servers in this game a wild amount. Would just be worse by making it easier by splitting people up so much.
I feel this should be added because it would make fights over the fort of the damned and forts of fortune actually fair and winnable for sloops.
Yeah, because I am sure tired of sinking Galleons as a solo sloop with ship full of kegs and watching them sink to the bottom. It so unfair to watch them suffer. :/
@rs9f5117 said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
I feel this should be added because it would make fights over the fort of the damned and forts of fortune actually fair and winnable for sloops.
Sloops are the best boats in the game, we rarely die to Galleons and Brigs. A good Sloop crew is our worse enemy.
@captdirtyoar said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@rs9f5117 said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
I feel this should be added because it would make fights over the fort of the damned and forts of fortune actually fair and winnable for sloops.
Sloops are the best boats in the game, we rarely die to Galleons and Brigs. A good Sloop crew is our worse enemy.
Duo, yeah they are pretty good, but Solo, you are lucky to even be able to sink a 2 man brig, unless you can get a lucky cannonball to hit the bailing and repairing crew.
For that reason, I'd be in support of seeing 'Solo Seas' as a way that solo players can meet friends, but also vs people at their own speeds.
Server usage would probably be able to be shrunk, knowing that it's a max of 6 players for those servers, so might lead to more efficient packing of azure nodes.
So i am writting this comment just after playing solo and sinking to a brig of extremely toxic french players. I understand where this is coming from and there are certainly pros, like for example more fair pvp and also the possibility of increased interactions since approaching another ship with the same size wouldn't be as intimidating. However it takes away so much from organic gameplay and goes against the basic design of the sandbox. Keep in mind SoT is game primarly designed to be played with a group and there is a reason each ship type has strengths and weaknesses. I understand that for a solo sloop completing a FotD might be nearly impossible if bigger ships come to contest, but there are so many things one can do, especially in season 15.
@honestauntyelle said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@captdirtyoar said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@rs9f5117 said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
I feel this should be added because it would make fights over the fort of the damned and forts of fortune actually fair and winnable for sloops.
Sloops are the best boats in the game, we rarely die to Galleons and Brigs. A good Sloop crew is our worse enemy.
Duo, yeah they are pretty good, but Solo, you are lucky to even be able to sink a 2 man brig, unless you can get a lucky cannonball to hit the bailing and repairing crew.
For that reason, I'd be in support of seeing 'Solo Seas' as a way that solo players can meet friends, but also vs people at their own speeds.
Server usage would probably be able to be shrunk, knowing that it's a max of 6 players for those servers, so might lead to more efficient packing of azure nodes.
If a solo cant sink a 2 man brig, then they are doing something very wrong. The larger the ship the harder it is to manage with 1 less crewmate. Thats why solo is seen as viable if not a little harder. There have been crewmates i have had as a duo that make things harder than if i was just playing solo. But a duo consisting of 2 solo sloopers is one of the best running ships ever and will cause pure havoc to anyone in the server with little trouble.
I love solo slooping and never once in my time have i thought it was so dramatically unbalanced/unfair that i needed a solo only server to pvp viably. And never once have i sunk to a duo brigantine even before they changed the spawn times or amount of chains a sloop mast could soak up.
@goldsmen said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@honestauntyelle said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@captdirtyoar said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@rs9f5117 said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
I feel this should be added because it would make fights over the fort of the damned and forts of fortune actually fair and winnable for sloops.
Sloops are the best boats in the game, we rarely die to Galleons and Brigs. A good Sloop crew is our worse enemy.
Duo, yeah they are pretty good, but Solo, you are lucky to even be able to sink a 2 man brig, unless you can get a lucky cannonball to hit the bailing and repairing crew.
For that reason, I'd be in support of seeing 'Solo Seas' as a way that solo players can meet friends, but also vs people at their own speeds.
Server usage would probably be able to be shrunk, knowing that it's a max of 6 players for those servers, so might lead to more efficient packing of azure nodes.
If a solo cant sink a 2 man brig, then they are doing something very wrong. The larger the ship the harder it is to manage with 1 less crewmate. Thats why solo is seen as viable if not a little harder. There have been crewmates i have had as a duo that make things harder than if i was just playing solo. But a duo consisting of 2 solo sloopers is one of the best running ships ever and will cause pure havoc to anyone in the server with little trouble.
I love solo slooping and never once in my time have i thought it was so dramatically unbalanced/unfair that i needed a solo only server to pvp viably. And never once have i sunk to a duo brigantine even before they changed the spawn times or amount of chains a sloop mast could soak up.
I'm glad you are so good at this game that you never seem to have trouble!
But as someone with 5k hours, I'm speaking from a considerable amount of experience, when I say that a 2 man brigantine beats a sloop with perfect gameplay.
They have twice the offensive capability, and can both team up and snipe you simultaneously when you attempt to man cannons.
Without being psychic, and being a distance away from them that you are safe from sniper fire, you are typically unable to see where they are positioned on their boat in order to secure a cannon kill.
If you die, there is no one on the ship to take control, if you kill one of them, they can simply bail til their friend comes back.
Duo Sloops, and Trio Brigantines can be on the same level, but solo's simply CANNOT compete at same--high-skill matches, against bigger ships unless they are 2 players down at least.
I've got about 250 allegiance from mostly solo hourglass, in both factions, so 500 combined, I'm not perfect, but I'm no slouch, and when you take the average skill level of the player base into account, then I can see the appeal of wanting a solo-seas.
@honestauntyelle said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@goldsmen said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@honestauntyelle said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@captdirtyoar said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
@rs9f5117 said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
I feel this should be added because it would make fights over the fort of the damned and forts of fortune actually fair and winnable for sloops.
Sloops are the best boats in the game, we rarely die to Galleons and Brigs. A good Sloop crew is our worse enemy.
Duo, yeah they are pretty good, but Solo, you are lucky to even be able to sink a 2 man brig, unless you can get a lucky cannonball to hit the bailing and repairing crew.
For that reason, I'd be in support of seeing 'Solo Seas' as a way that solo players can meet friends, but also vs people at their own speeds.
Server usage would probably be able to be shrunk, knowing that it's a max of 6 players for those servers, so might lead to more efficient packing of azure nodes.
If a solo cant sink a 2 man brig, then they are doing something very wrong. The larger the ship the harder it is to manage with 1 less crewmate. Thats why solo is seen as viable if not a little harder. There have been crewmates i have had as a duo that make things harder than if i was just playing solo. But a duo consisting of 2 solo sloopers is one of the best running ships ever and will cause pure havoc to anyone in the server with little trouble.
I love solo slooping and never once in my time have i thought it was so dramatically unbalanced/unfair that i needed a solo only server to pvp viably. And never once have i sunk to a duo brigantine even before they changed the spawn times or amount of chains a sloop mast could soak up.
I'm glad you are so good at this game that you never seem to have trouble!
But as someone with 5k hours, I'm speaking from a considerable amount of experience, when I say that a 2 man brigantine beats a sloop with perfect gameplay.
They have twice the offensive capability, and can both team up and snipe you simultaneously when you attempt to man cannons.
Without being psychic, and being a distance away from them that you are safe from sniper fire, you are typically unable to see where they are positioned on their boat in order to secure a cannon kill.
If you die, there is no one on the ship to take control, if you kill one of them, they can simply bail til their friend comes back.
Duo Sloops, and Trio Brigantines can be on the same level, but solo's simply CANNOT compete at same--high-skill matches, against bigger ships unless they are 2 players down at least.
I've got about 250 allegiance from mostly solo hourglass, in both factions, so 500 combined, I'm not perfect, but I'm no slouch, and when you take the average skill level of the player base into account, then I can see the appeal of wanting a solo-seas.
I never said i never have trouble, i said i never had trouble against a duo brig due to its weaknesses outweighing even a solo sloop considerably.
I have seen people throw around hours of gameplay as if it means much in terms of experience when i have seen people with half my time in game playing better than some with over double my time in pvp. Hours really dont equate to a players skill level in a game where some one with even 10k hours could have spent 9k of that running from combat, throwing loot overboard to deny it, or only taking on brand new players.
A duo brig DOES have twice the cannons, and can both snipe yes, but odds are if they are choosing to run a brig as a duo instead of a sloop, they likely cant do so very effectively since anyone who has any experience with pvp on more than 1 ship type will know that the brig sinks very considerably faster per hole, and when it has a few tier 2 and 3 holes, it takes almost the entirety of all 3 crew mates to be able to recover it, while a sloop is considerably more forgiving.
I will always vouch that we do not, and never once have needed a solo exclusive mode for a game that was not intended for solos to begin with, but has catered to us more than any other crew size.
You can fs win in a sloop or even as a solo against the entire server at something like a fort. The diversity of ships on the water makes the game more interesting. Maybe not necessarily the most fair, but it gives the game and the servers a certain amount of life that the game desperately needs right now. This simplification of the game where they dumb down mechanics to make it more fair has slowly destroyed a lot of the best parts of SoT. Adding something like this would make it a no brainer to just play in your same ship servers, meaning you would likely not see any diversity on the seas anymore. Also it splits up the player base which isn't a great idea.
This is something that would just make SoT feel more like a quest grinding game and less like an adventure. SoT is built around and works the best when it plays like an adventure.
Ship type, nah...but I'd support solo servers.
I used to be against solo servers for a long time, but these days, it makes more and more sense for the health of the game. They've introduced so many things that have made solo slooping harder through the years. I can't imagine the newer player solo experience is a pleasant one.
The alternative - which I'm convinced they're never going to address - would be to make open crew a more viable and reliable option. Right now, open crew is an absolute disaster. It's discouraged pretty much unanimously on any social platform for SOT...and for good reason.
@burnbacon said in Option to matchmake with only your ship type:
Hours really dont equate to a players skill level
Best quote here. That equal to someone saying “I play guitar hero so I can play a real guitar”
He's not wrong at all.
Put 1 SS exclusive player with 300h+ against anyone from HS with just 100h who's been doing at least occasional PvP.
HS player will mop the floor with the SS player, and won't break a sweat.
I don't agree this should be a feature for a couple reasons, like that it's less fun to have less variety (my opinion, I like fighting different ship types even if they're larger than mine), it would make it very difficult to find servers (why they removed arena in the first place tee hee), and some others, but mostly because I enjoy rolling up on a small ship with my galleon crew of former arena players and killing them all
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