XBOX PLAYERS VS PC

  • PitMonk

    @pitmonk said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    @pitmonk said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    @ershin666 said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    @pitmonk yea pc players always wanna hide adventage this understand :)

    Hiding what mate? I'm not hiding anything, I close all other apps running, launch the game and play. I do know that every time I try to aim, my mouse speed gets a huge nerf and slows right down, does that happen with your xbox controller?

    Any Xbox user like to comment? Does your control speed change when you mount a canon or look through your spyglass?

    So it seems to me that if playing on a Xbox, and you choose to aim a canon or gun, that your pointer speed doesn't change at all? Hence no replies to my question? Its us PC players who have been nerf'd already.

  • LuNgFoOl
    Marauder
    Founder

    @flowerofcarnage You make a good point. I was just saying in "my experience" so far with the game I've had no problems with pvp. That being said I may have just not ran into any pc players yet, I doubt I'm that lucky though. And you can't say that practice doesn't make you better at things, not everyone can just pick something up and be a pro or even good right away, you have to practice, and review your weaknesses to become better at the task at hand. But I do understand your point mouse, and keyboard do have a competitive edge, and faster reaction to player input. ☺

  • SG RiverDan
    Marauder
    Insider

    Crossplay is a terrible idea for any game with shooting in it.

  • NATAS79

    I love cross play but on this game it is killing it, i will not be playing much until we have the option for xbox only servers.

  • Specleaf
    Seafarer

    Seriously i'd more concern about the lack of content. PC vs console BS!

  • Specleaf
    Seafarer

    @ershin666 Are seriously just complaining about controller vs keyboard? Did you know most PC player on this game uses controller right? So stop making excuses and Get Good!

  • OldPirateKing

    To make things fair console vs PC then rare should implement in the game so a person on PC cant move its AIM faster then a person on Xbox. And also lock the FPS to 30fps on all hardware. And make it so PC planera have to use mouseclicks on screen to choose bananas instead of just clicking a button.

    If rare implement this in the game and make it impossible for PC players to cheat. Then sure we can have crossplay.

    But as it is now the PC players have to big advantage so Crossplay is not fair.

    And if PC players got nurfed down to 30fps no PC gamers would play this game anymore and the crossplay problem would be fixed 😂😂😂

  • CptWurmy

    Communication is king in this game beyond individual skill. People say they can't tell the difference between xbox and pc; if I hear an enemy talking near me I know 100% they're on xbox in a random crew. The only way for xbox players to talk discreetly is to be in party chat, meanwhile my PC crew and I are saying "lets team up" in public chat and "yeah we're gonna kill them as soon as key drops" in discord. The ability to plan and coordinate actions without spilling secrets is more than enough to convince me that xbox players have been shafted.

  • CattaleyaAthena
    Founder

    @oldpirateking said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    To make things fair console vs PC then rare should implement in the game so a person on PC cant move its AIM faster then a person on Xbox. And also lock the FPS to 30fps on all hardware. And make it so PC planera have to use mouseclicks on screen to choose bananas instead of just clicking a button.

    If rare implement this in the game and make it impossible for PC players to cheat. Then sure we can have crossplay.

    But as it is now the PC players have to big advantage so Crossplay is not fair.

    And if PC players got nurfed down to 30fps no PC gamers would play this game anymore and the crossplay problem would be fixed 😂😂😂

    Microsoft should brick any xbox console that misses a payment to abox live membership or xbox live game pass membership like so

    😂😂😂

  • IXxDeathGodxXI
    Master
    Founder

    @pitmonk Controllers have a sensitivity options. It only helps aim in hipfiring. ADS slows the movement of aiming to a snails pace. The sniper rifle is useless against players as they bunny hop around and move everywhere that it's impossible to track a player target with it cause they can outrun the scope. Just have to hope to fire and it hits them at the right time. This applies to all weapons to. Blunderbusses need to be in your face to hit and ohk anyone and it has to be dead center. It's very hard to do that with a controller as console players aim using the movement of the character on the x axis to aim, as the analog stick is good but the thumb cannot reliably do precision aiming. The mouse is controlled by the wrist and shoulder joints, giving a wide variety of fast and precise aiming on the fly in any direction. The thumb is a single ball joint that cannot compete against two larger ball joints.

  • SN4RES

    @ershin666 Cross play is the way forward. As much as I despise consoles, I still think cross play is cool. Should be default.

  • hiyall1
    Marauder

    @ershin666 xbox players are extremely toxic usually. its nice to put the smack down on them. cross play should stay

  • PitMonk

    @ixxdeathgodxxi said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    @pitmonk The thumb is a single ball joint that cannot compete against two larger ball joints.

    I appreciate your reply and explanation as to how the Xbox controls work. It does leave me wondering why on earth anyone would want to play games using a controller that's this awkward to use. I'll be sticking to my PC I think.

  • Ebi 117

    I would love for X-Box to add Keyboard and Mouse support. Microsoft claims they've been working on it for awhile. However, I honestly believe that the support has already been coded and that they can add it at any time with the push of a button + software update. The reason they won't is because it will result in a massive loss in revenue from controller sales. It's my belief that Sony and Microsoft have a gentlemen's agreement and won't add Keyboard and Mouse support on either console until the other one does. As soon as one breaks the unspoken agreement and adds support, they both will.

    PS4 already has KB+M support, can use if the FF MMO so, I don't think that's the reason.

  • Ebi 117

    @cptwurmy said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    Communication is king in this game beyond individual skill. People say they can't tell the difference between xbox and pc; if I hear an enemy talking near me I know 100% they're on xbox in a random crew. The only way for xbox players to talk discreetly is to be in party chat, meanwhile my PC crew and I are saying "lets team up" in public chat and "yeah we're gonna kill them as soon as key drops" in discord. The ability to plan and coordinate actions without spilling secrets is more than enough to convince me that xbox players have been shafted.

    Xbox users can use discord and other chat platforms if they choose to they have mobile apps, if they cant get the act together to use the same tools available to PC players thats their problem.

  • Ebi 117

    @lord-sphinktus said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    They just need a little more balancing to bring PC and Xbox into parity, give it time, crossplay is new.

    As for cheaters on the PC, they are going to be punished soon enough. Microsoft does not tollerate cheating on the Xbox live platform and PC players just aren't aware of how serious an Xbox live banhammer can be.

    How are PC players 'cheating'??

  • Tehlingstar2
    Master
    Insider
    Founder

    @ershin666 said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    remove pc to alone server we realy dont wanna play with pc this is unfair. im shared this post for club and friends and you see how much ppl dont wanna play witch pc. PS4 and xbox fine but pc? realy ? or give us options to attach the ms and kb. the we will see who is better player. how fight pad vs maus? show us in stream pvp 4 team xbox vs pc. why you dont show this in official stream ? becose pc all the time wins you can not win in pad

    one of my crews best PvPers is a console player, i really hate the term "Get good" but really guys you need to because when someone kills you in this game it doesnt flash up on your screen "that guy was on PC" you dont know what platform they are useing, you could have been killed by a console player just playing better then you. Why should PC players be punished? Because someones better at the game then you? there is always someone better then you, there is someone better then the guy that killed you and theirs someone better then that person to. People are blaming PC players because its an easy answer and easy answers dont solve anything, cutting off half the community to separate servers will only serve to make the matchmaker take ages to find a crew.

  • RobRoyTheRed
    Master

    I play on PC and use a XBOX controller. Having fun

  • Lord Sphinktus

    @ebi-117 no one is saying all PC players are cheating, at least I'm not, but SOME PC players are using hacks. They will be banned from the game very soon, so I'm not worried, just clarifying.

  • Ebi 117

    @lord-sphinktus yeah I get that but I am just curious how these players are cheating I mean there must be some evidence of it if people think its happening?

  • CptWurmy

    @ebi-117 didn't know that. its good that discord is available to them

  • InfinityGB5449
    Master
    Insider

    all this crying about controller vs keyboard & mouse is just petty then trying to say a possible fix to it is add keyboard and mouse support to console well lets put it this way this is definitely not the place to input that type of suggestion as this would rely on ms itself not rare.

    P.S if you don't wanna play against pc players then get off the game and play something else if you like the game then shut up complaining and play rather than complaining about it on the forums

  • LogansDadToo
    Founder

    All the angry pc players totally against xbox players having the option of disabling crossplay, as it will take away all their easy kills!!
    They can't seem to grasp the fact that xbox players who pay for their online service, should have the option of whether or not they wish to play with pc players that have an advantage with their input device & who don't pay for their xbox live access.
    It is needed even more now that there are pc hacks being used!!!!

  • InfinityGB5449
    Master
    Insider

    @logansdadtoo what 60 dollars if that for 12 months gold lol you would be buying more than 10 years of gold just to match a single part in my rig and we also pay over 100 for a legit copy of windows from ms which can match 2 years of gold

  • Legandj

    If rare hasn't made it optional during the many years that this game has been in community-driven development, I highly doubt they will make it optional now.

  • LogansDadToo
    Founder

    @x-infinityeu-x
    What's that got to do with it??
    My TV cost £1800 which i need to play my xbox on!!
    But i still have to pay for xbox live!

  • InfinityGB5449
    Master
    Insider

    @logansdadtoo lol my tv is £1800 aswell its a samsung qled haha aswell as a pc rig that costs even more that your tv alone aswell not incl peripherals

  • VDrew4
    Captain
    Insider
    Founder

    I love the PC and Xbox players play together. Would be horrible if now I could only play with like half of the people I play with because some only play PC.

    MK v Controller isn't even that big of an advantage. especially when a lot of the fighting will be ship v ship.

  • Legandj

    @loyalpheonix said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    I love the PC and Xbox players play together. Would be horrible if now I could only play with like half of the people I play with because some only play PC.

    MK v Controller isn't even that big of an advantage. especially when a lot of the fighting will be ship v ship.

    Exactly. It's being way overblown.

  • IXxDeathGodxXI
    Master
    Founder

    Majority of pc players only play SoT to kill console players because they have a hardware advantage. That is the only reason they play SoT. Microsoft won't even allow that to those of us who own a xbox one x to get a advantage over base xbox one users. Xbox players can live without pc players fyi. Pc players like bullying console players, stop the bullying and separate the community. Once it's separated, pc players will go back to CS:GO, LoL, WoW, overwatch, CoD, BF1 or whatever game they usually play on a more serious manner and we xbox players won't have to deal with their bullying anymore and will actually have a chance in pvp for once.

  • Kustho
    Ship Mate

    You use the "We" Mr. OP.....speak for yourself and use the "I"...

    like in: "I dont know what I'm talking about but I get frustrated easy so please change stuff for me".

  • Aztechnology537
    Master
    Founder

    Uhh, no aim assist and there's no headshot or locational damage or anything. So you just have hit with your weapons. Which really makes PC's advantages pretty moot. Sure we can turn quicker, buf if you turn your sensitivity up a bit, not in a meaningful way.

    If we're talking snipers that's really a non issue, both because rare heavily handicapped the aim speed. But also because who the hell is using the sniper over the pistol or Blunderbuss.

    Outside of that controller users actually have several nice advantages due to vibration cue's and such which help in steering, in finding treasures etc.

  • Ravadosh
    Marauder

    Finally a game I enjoy playing with my non pc masterrace friends.. does it really matter??

    I don't want seperated servers as I do want to be able to have this fun experience with friends that are on console..

  • Legandj

    @ixxdeathgodxxi said in XBOX PLAYERS VS PC:

    Majority of pc players only play SoT to kill console players because they have a hardware advantage. That is the only reason they play SoT. Microsoft won't even allow that to those of us who own a xbox one x to get a advantage over base xbox one users. Xbox players can live without pc players fyi. Pc players like bullying console players, stop the bullying and separate the community. Once it's separated, pc players will go back to CS:GO, LoL, WoW, overwatch, CoD, BF1 or whatever game they usually play on a more serious manner and we xbox players won't have to deal with their bullying anymore and will actually have a chance in pvp for once.

    That is such a paranoid statement. Honestly, I doubt that many pc players bought the game just to hunt console players. We aren't some group of bloodthirsty boogymen that are out to get you. We bought the game because we like it, and this is the platform we have chosen to game on.

  • Symbioto
    Marauder

    I play on pc with xbox controller all the time.

    And I successfully sink nearly any ship in sight with my crew, don't see any trouble to kill mouse/kb enemies even one on one in melee - it's up to personal skills...

    So, stop crying, go play some solo games....

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