I love Sea of thieves, the quests, the world design, the character design, but I have a huge problem with the commendations you make. I understand that you want us to play the game, enjoy it, but how can we do the second part if in order to get a curse most of the time or an special item we are obligated to complete those stories 5 times each ( gold curse, order of souls eye curse ) in order to get what we want. It is just exhausting doing exactly the same thing over and over again like 45 times just to get a curse that looks awesome, but drains your soul getting it ( like I said above the design is brilliant ), not to mention that each quest takes more than 45 minutes to complete and it takes even more than an hour to complete them if you are a solo player. I do not know how useless is what I am trying to say here, but I don`t think that I am the only one that is having this issue. So please it would be wonderful and it would be more enjoyable playing if you would make normal achievements, like kill Captain Briggsy only using throwable knifes, It would give the player more time to enjoy new things and maybe even repeat the mission because he liked it that much, not because he feels obligated to spend 50 hours in safer sees to farm something that he wants so desperately and can not get with normal gameplay. Please hear us when we are trying to give an opinion and take them into consideration.
Commendations asking too much.
With Diving and Safer Seas...takes less time than you think and once you have a "Guide" you can quickly skip a lot of content.
Life Lesson: If you truly want something...you will put in the work to achieve it, because the end goal is so much better than the road itself. But only if the goal is really what you desire.
Saying it to much work to achieve, means you dont really want it. Look at the two main curses...Requires playing Hourglass/PvP which according to some small groups, nobody wants to do. But there is No rule saying you have to finish it in a set time.
You can enjoy the game and during down times? Try for them curses.
So you’re telling me you actually enjoy playing this game with all these useless and stressful mechanics? Honestly, it doesn’t even feel like playing anymore at this point, it feels like going to work. This is supposed to be a pirate game, not a real-life simulator.
The PvP part is exaggerated too. You can only get those curses if you stop playing anything else and completely devote yourself to this game. And after you finally achieve them, you realize you’ve spent over 2000 hours grinding and for what? There’s barely any content left, because the only content is farming the same 45 missions over and over again. You spend thousands of hours in the Hourglass just to get a cosmetic skin you barely even see.
The idea behind the game is what’s ruining the gameplay that’s why it’s dying.
And no offense, but you’re out here giving “life lessons” in a game that’s literally built on farming mechanics, and the farming itself feels like sinking into a swamp. Spending that many hours for a cosmetic yeah, it looks awesome, but dedicating an entire week for it just isn’t worth it.
Yes, I want the curse, and I’m on my way to getting it, but I’m tired. It’s just too much. If you say you enjoyed every single hour of getting those things and that it was worth it, you’re lying to yourself.
One last thing: I’m watching guides and tutorials, I’m trying to get better, but it just takes too long collecting journals, completing the same 9 Tall Tales five times each, each one taking at least 45 minutes, sometimes over an hour. You can’t enjoy the game and pretend you love doing the same repetitive thing over and over again. At some point, it stops being fun it becomes work. You go through hell just to get a cosmetic.
This is a game, not real life.
@burstingtulip34
I agree with you that the requirements for the gold curse are exaggerated. The reason why, is that the grind doesnt help you to improve your skills at all (besides the fact that you can now speedrun all tall tales). You‘ll learn nothing. That‘s also the reason why I never even started that grind.
But for the hourglass curses I honestly have to disagree with you. The curses are only the bait to lure players into playing hourglass and to help them to actually get better at pvp. That‘s how I started to even consider improving my pvp skills and in the end I even had fun playing hourglass.And in contrast to the gold curse, hourglass isnt repetetive at all. Sometimes I settle thinks with a tdm or I sink his ship with a surprising manoeuvre.
Sometimes even the good old ram start works.In the end grinding for the hourglass curses helps you improve your gameplay and to find joy in fighting other crews, while the gold curse is just a waste of time
(Tipp: everything is funnier with a crew)@HuiBuh34
Finally someone who actually understands the point instead of giving life advice. I completely agree with you, but I don’t have a crew and playing Hourglass alone, being as competitive as I am, would probably end up with me breaking my setup.My biggest issue with PvP, though, is that the combat system is just horrible. It’s clunky, inconsistent, and barely skill-based. Every shot feels irrelevant it doesn’t matter if you hit the head, body, or legs, the damage is the same. So why even bother having scopes if precision means nothing?
The melee system is even worse. Sword fights aren’t about timing or precision; they’re just about abusing movement and learning one cheesy combo. And the fact that players can swap and shoot two weapons back-to-back without reloading just makes it even more broken. It’s not about skill it’s about memorizing exploits.
That’s why for me, PvP in Sea of Thieves isn’t fun or rewarding. It’s frustrating, and unless you already have a strong crew, you’ll be put through hell trying to enjoy it.
Gold curse grind was unforgivable and soured me to the Tall Tales as a whole.
To be fair to the Devs they have noticeably decreased the grind in Season 17 and I guess the strategy going forwards will be the same.
The low point was the Reaper loot numbers required in Season 16 and the gnashing of teeth that resulted has lead to a course correct.My self imposed limit for deliberate voyage grind is 50.
Only things higher than that are Legends of the Veil and Gold Hoarder vaults at 100 that I can happily do without.@huibuh34 Wow I could not agree more with a comment on this forum. If the story mode of this game actually taught you how to play it, showed you game mechanics, then it would be great. I would be down to do the tall tales more than once each if they could have a purpose, but honestly playing the tall tales for 50 hours makes you worse at the game. Spending 50 hours doing content that is 90% sailing is not where its at.
As for hourglass, same boat as you. I wanted the curses and in the end I started to enjoy the game mode, and get better at the game overall.
It’s a right of passage boys. How bad do you want it? At least you have safer seas and can “glitch” checkpoints. Also diving makes this much faster. Imagine having to actually sail and doing these on the high seas alone…. A lot of us did. It’s ok it goes super fast.
Much faster than hg 🤷🏼♂️
It should take you 9 days max to get the gold curse.
It’s a right of passage boys.
Oh dont tell them that, they dont seem to care for it. They simply...want it.
@jon-sea-nah Wow good one my friend taking advantages on glitches in order to "enjoy" playing those useless things in order to get a cosmetic. Sure 9 days? pff it`s nothing, maybe I should leave university and devote myself to this game. Make my life be on a boat.
@burstingtulip34 said in Commendations asking too much.:
@HuiBuh34
Finally someone who actually understands the point instead of giving life advice. I completely agree with you, but I don’t have a crew and playing Hourglass alone, being as competitive as I am, would probably end up with me breaking my setup.My biggest issue with PvP, though, is that the combat system is just horrible. It’s clunky, inconsistent, and barely skill-based. Every shot feels irrelevant it doesn’t matter if you hit the head, body, or legs, the damage is the same. So why even bother having scopes if precision means nothing?
The melee system is even worse. Sword fights aren’t about timing or precision; they’re just about abusing movement and learning one cheesy combo. And the fact that players can swap and shoot two weapons back-to-back without reloading just makes it even more broken. It’s not about skill it’s about memorizing exploits.
That’s why for me, PvP in Sea of Thieves isn’t fun or rewarding. It’s frustrating, and unless you already have a strong crew, you’ll be put through hell trying to enjoy it.
For you? you mean for chatgpt
@captain-knyt
Wdym by that? I dont agree with everything he said, but this text defenetly wasnt written by AI@burnbacon Sure! That is why the game is dying, but who listens to players. There are two kinds o players in this game now. First we have de 0-100 h people that leave the game after they see how trash it is and the second type of players the 1000-5000 h that are sweats and get ancient coins for playing their game and stream it.
@captain-knyt
If the best you can do is accuse people of using ChatGPT, then you’re proving my point better than I ever could.I brought up real issues with the game combat, hitboxes, grind, imbalance.
Your entire counter-argument is basically: “this is too well written, so it can’t be yours.”That says more about you than about me.
If you enjoy the game in its current state, good for you. Just don’t attack players for giving valid criticism.
And yes when I mentioned that the only people who still “enjoy” the game are the sweat beards who take every criticism personally, I was talking exactly about reactions like yours.
Instead of addressing anything I said, you jumped straight to “ChatGPT.”Interesting reaction. Thanks for confirming my point.
@burstingtulip34 I went to uni once. Perhaps I should get my masters degree for simply attending a semester. No one has time to obtain such things.
If you are THAT serious about life outside of video games maybe video games shouldn’t be where you spend your time. Asking for easier things as you are busy isn’t really a reason to make it “simpler”
I’m sorry it takes 9 whole days or less to obtain it. Wait til you start HG grind. You’re really gonna love life.
Ps I started April 1 2018 and got my gold shores curse Jan 1 2023 it’s ok if it takes awhile
@burstingtulip34 it's not well written that's how you could tell it was ai, not your post, just that reply
the multiple odd 'it's not just x it's y' is the biggest giveaway. Along with the rest of the pacing just being ai and entirely different from your writing style in the post
idk even know what your post is about really, if i wanted to argue with chatgpt i wouldn't need you as the middleman
@captain-knyt So trying to perfectly put in words what I am trying to say is wrong? I am not a native and this is not even the point of the discussion, so why does it even matter if I helped myself a little to polish some words in order to send a good message? The problems I highlighted are real and many people encounter them. Stop being so smart and use the ChatGPT argument while it is irrelevant. What I did is put a small number of facts in your face while some of you try and devour me like discord mods. Can we move on with this irrelevant problem and address the real one?
I understand that you want us to play the game, enjoy it, but how can we do the second part if in order to get a curse most of the time or an special item we are obligated to complete those stories 5 times each
As said. You aren't forced to complete them, and with how the Diving system works, shortcuts, Safer Seas. You can knock these out without even doing much of anything.
It is just exhausting doing exactly the same thing over and over again like 45 times just to get a curse that looks awesome, but drains your soul getting it
Dont try to do them all in a single go. If its draining, do something else. If you got down time, then you focus.
Heck, first couple of runs of the TT should be to complete them than you go back again to collect Journals, THAN you go back and do the odds and ends like tasks between.
What is exhausting is players now wanting to remove the grind, after it been part of the game already...and everyone who already done it the "Hard Way" before the Safer Seas and Diving system.not to mention that each quest takes more than 45 minutes to complete and it takes even more than an hour to complete them if you are a solo player.
Find some Guides, and you can speed run these. Safer Seas, you dont even have to worry about other crews. So the time between is shorter than you think.
but I don`t think that I am the only one that is having this issue
Well....If they havn't changed it before or yet...maybe it not an issue for everyone? Besides, majority of players dont even want those curses.
So please it would be wonderful and it would be more enjoyable playing if you would make normal achievements, like kill Captain Briggsy only using throwable knifes
How is that enjoyable? That makes fighting them much more work and longer.
It would give the player more time to enjoy new things and maybe even repeat the mission because he liked it that much
Time is all on you. If something is taking up your time, dont do it. Once you get the curse...why would anyone wanna repeat it?
not because he feels obligated to spend 50 hours in safer sees to farm something that he wants so desperately and can not get with normal gameplay.
Normal gameplay...you can get. and 50 hours is a huge mistake in calculations.
Please hear us when we are trying to give an opinion and take them into consideration.
Heard, (also who is "Us" in this?) and pretty sure they learned there lesson on curses, Look at Hourglass... ^_^
@jon-sea-nah It's not about the actual speed, it's about the perception of it. The 50 hours it takes to do 45 tall tales is less than the hundreds of hours I've put into hourglass, but hourglass is fun, and not always exactly the same.
i think they should reduce the requirements for the gold curse to 1 tall teach completion as well.
sadly this game is full of cry babies who "did it when it was hard" so they gatekeep cosmetics behind the fact that it took them more effort. rare is like 70/30 on listening to those people so very rarely will we see them do whats best for new players in favor of allowing the tryhard day1 players feel special for never abandoning the game and sinking in way more hours than this game honestly deserves. dont get me wrong i LOVE THIS GAME!!! but.... its not a forever game. NO ONE should be dedicating 70+% of their gaming time to this game when theres so many other good experiences out there. this game is fun in small doses but the commendations and achievements require thousands of hours of play
@keylessword4029 Someone who knows what I mean and speaks facts instead of crying. Thank you Keyless.
Btw @BurnBacon if you took a look on this page there are some people that approve my point or approve a part of it and say that yes it is a pain to get that curse, but play pvp is better and more rewording and I give them credit 4 that, but if you are solo or mostly solo and have some pvp skill issue it will drain you and make you speed run to uninstall it.
Just because something takes a little bit of effort to obtain doesn't mean people are gatekeeping it. The cosmetic is available to everyone. You don't even need to be a pirate legend to start working on it. This achievement has been made a lot easier with the introduction of safer seas and diving. You can knock out some of these tall tales in like 15-20mins. In a game where progression is awarded in the form of cosmetics, when you make them all easy to achieve you diminish its value. Cosmetics are essentially badges. Achievements we wear on our sleeves. They tell a story. Earning a cosmetic is so much more rewarding than just buying one from the Emporium.
@bulla5278 It does not take 15-20 mins only MAYBE, but you exaggerate, if you sweat on them. Plus, you don t understand the idea. The idea is that they have so many solutions to make good achievements, but they make some of the worst like "Oh, yes do these 9 telltales 45 times to get this". It looks good but it is not worth it and takes too much time to dedicate into one thing. Many want it, but they end up giving up because it is a horrible journey. At this rate fr just go for hourglass and that is it, but I am not talking about pvp here, only about the commendations that are the worst I have ever seen.
@burnbacon Dude... they cut the videos... . Ok let s take as an example the cursed rogue tall tale ok? good. You must look at a book and go to the area that the photos from the book show, ok, so far so good, takes you about 5 mins or more to get from island to island ( that if they are near to eachother ), kill some captain skeletons and their companions and get a key, then repeat the same thing but this time you get a chest... ( wow so interesting i d love to repeat this 5 times ), then go to plunder outpost, ( you already are at min 15-20 btw ), then go to the black ink eye lady idk the name, wait for a 2 min dialogue, then get a compass, find an island sometimes very far or sometimes just far, kill captain briggsy ( you really are now about 20-35 mins ), then get her skull, go back to plunder outpost, give the skull and stay another 2-3 mins on a dialogue ( total? good run 30-40 mins, bad run 50-60, with journals? maybe more. Now you need to do this 45 times ). Repeat this 5 times and each tall tale is kind of like this, and takes even more if you get all the journals. Going into each 9 and getting all the journals already takes you like 8-9 h or more, but farming them 5 times each ( equals 45 times ), takes you 40-50h or even more. What are you talking about? Not to mention that to get some scars that look nice you need to do a voyage 5 times with the order of souls and another 5 times with the gold hoarders so 10 times in high seas because you can t raise a emissary flag in safer seas... so you can get jumped at any time. All this work to get some scars and a curse... can t you just see that this is complete nonsense? I understand farming and I like games where you farm, but this is just outrageous.
@burstingtulip34
Are you referring to the Forsaken Ashes Scars?
I understand that doing all of the original Tall Tales 5 times is too much, but to compare that with doing 10 quests which wouldn't even take close to an hour doesn't work.
You could dive to those quests, leave the loot, dive again and would be done in propably 30 minutes.
The chances of getting attacked in those 5 minutes is very unlikely.
These commendations don't even mention an emissary flag, so im not 100% sure if thats the scars you're refering to, but since those are the only scars that are rewarded this way, thats propably it.
That means you can complete them in Safer Seas.The commendations for the gold curse propably won't ever change, because they are just too old and if Rare decides to change them this late, they would have to give the people who already unlocked them something to show they got it before the nerf.
@potatosord and PvE players would say otherwise and that HG is a time sink and horrible and that TallTales were the best addition to the game….. see how a simple perception shift can help.
I like PvP more than pve hence I have all. I’m working on finishing up the wild seas curse currently and HATE hunting megs….. but I don’t complain that it should be simpler or unlocked in a strictly PvP fashion.
I want it….. so I grind it….. simple
@burstingtulip34 currently helping a friend do his gold curse……. In 3 hours or less you can get all books and complete said tall tale completely…..
3x9 is………. 27……. 27 hours. As @BurnBacon has said, do this in safer seas and diving….. what more do you want?
It’s a “grind” but not ANYWHERE close to what it used to be.
@jon-sea-nah dude at this moment i am just too tired to repeat my self over and over again. what you said is just useless
@jon-sea-nah and tbh here i don really believe a word you just said here 3 h all 9 tales and get the journals, maybe ye if you and another player play ig, idk. do it ig 45 more times, enjoy, if that is your point.
@burstingtulip34 see when you told me to read. I’d suggest the same. 3 1 tall tale in its entirety 😁
It’s less than 30 hours of gameplay to get the curse. You get a second curse along the journey as an encouragement to continue.
It’s not hard, requires no skill, and if done of safer seas no threat from others. They are practically handing this away, especially if you use the diving mechanic you don’t even have to sail. What more do you want? To just log in and BOOM it’s yours
@Jon Sea Nah not really, it takes a couple of days for normal players, ig for players as experienced as you sherlock it takes minutes to get it ofc, but you do you. ofc it is a lot easier with someone by your side, i don't have. abusing checkpoints is easy, but fr you must abuse "cheats" to do it quicker. a question, did you get it? ofc there can be lies, but after you end your journey please tell me how much time it took or no matter it is a time waste to see you yapp again. talking about the skill thing, you kinda exaggerate here but, like i said at this point just do whatever because the sea is already dead or full of 1000+h sweats so idc, this is my last message here, it was a waste of time trying to teach math to npcs.
