Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege

lol the moment when an r6 game says "opfor" as if he plays arma and instead of a slightest more "evolved counterstrike still with hitscan".

Dude get off your high horse. Btw R6 does have a pve mode (and they're better than 90% of the ppl that play the game lol)

ironic that you use this game as an example. it is also one of the games i'm holding as an example. imo siege fizzled out pretty early, as players were exploiting certain aspects and it became repetitive. since then the devs invested considerable effort into retooling and expanding on the game, and now are rewarded with player counts dwarfing the post release numbers. i am expecting rare to follow their example, and build an epic game experience.

@xv-nizzo-vx said in Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege:

While I personally think the term "snowflake" is often used by insecure projectionists, I couldn't agree more with what you said. It's a PvP PIRATE game at its core. It's called Sea of THIEVES. This game doesn't need nor should have safe zones for people that get upset from losing their treasure to better pirates. Adapt your play style and turn into a pirate yourself. This game is not meant to ensure your safety once you've found treasure. It's actually quite the opposite which makes this game unique and different than a lot of gaming experiences out there currently.

Tell me, whats the part of "shooting people on an island in broad day light, next to merchants and not having any repercussions" do you not understand. You think pirates would just go on about doing whatever they wanted? I think you're mixing "pirate" with "psychopath/ serial killer who wants to be caught"... which they were not. A "pirate" was not what you think it was. Btw safe havens existed. They were needed for survival and protection and used also as a "neutral" ground between quarrels even from government navies (or else the brits or the spanish could just barge in and the "age of piracy" would have ended in a day and the only term you'd know would be privateer (or buccaneer) - there were all these "accords" and almost "rules" to live by... if you wanted to live. "Be a pirate" in this case is more "be a [Mod edited], do what ye want ya sea dog, no repercussions"

@xv-nizzo-vx said in Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege:

@lestatpt1979 LOL I've seen you whining in other threads too. It's called circle the island first and see if there's another ship or mermaid there. Problem solved if you take the extra minute scoping out the outpost rather than just running in and hoping no one is there. Be cautious and play defensively every second because this is a game about PIRATES and THIEVING. If you want a little invincibility spell on your character than play another game because this one obviously is not for you. Just because this game isn't exactly what you want it to be, doesn't mean you need to throw a temper tantrum in every thread. Also, this game is not a pirate sim so don't expect everything to be 100% historically accurate.

Dude... whining? I... never been camped. I never lost any cargo to anyone (which would have been fine) all the times I've been attacked I'm empty and I bother to yell "IM EMPTY" they just go for it anyway. This is the behavior I criticize. They bother to sink my ship, camp me, kill me whatever.... and they gain nothing from it. Maybe its sexual... maybe they go off on it, I dont know. But what I do know, is the behavior is downright r******d. Especially when I bother to say "come here and check it, I wont shoot, check the ship"...... so yea, then I go on a rampage and noone of us does anything else for 2 hours. Was that healthy? Was that a good time? Well taking to account the precedent, I bet it was funnier for me than for them... nothing like seeing a scoop charging at them 2 in 2 minutes and hear "omg its that guy again" ... well you mess with the wrong crazy person. If I rather just go about my business... of course. I cross a lot of ships and I go like "ok the guy is doing his thing... if he attacks me we'll see, if not, we'll just continue" - I have no idea how many hours I have in game, but I've only had stupid fights, not one was a legitimate fight. And I even help people who are lost in their riddles, or help them out taken their s**t from their sinking ship.

I get enough pvp in real life to really have to have a game especially a not-so-pvp one to get my h*****n. And if I wanted pvp, I'd play one of the countless fps or mobas or whatever that are out there... why should I ruin another person experience if he doesnt attack me? Its clear that he or she is exploring the island etc... why should I do it, without any reason what so ever?

So... if thats whining for you, please at least be sophisticated and cultured enough to serve me some cheese.

@xv-nizzo-vx dude... how can I simplify this even more and yet you dont grasp the concept. Ok heres a new one, you know why you get nothing from just killing a player and sinking their ship? Exactly- probably to try to somewhat thwart or at least minimize random ganking since it doesnt have a reward.

As for playing what you want... go ahead man - I never said you couldnt rp as a complete [Mod Edited] going around pretending your an [Mod Edited] "pirate" and just killing everyone randomly left and right, I dont see why you would do it, but... hey as far as i'm concern you can do whatever you want, just dont expect the game to last long with people like this on the servers - my concern is the longevity of what could be a very promising game and has everything to do well.

I dont care, I'll just log out, and log back in... if it starts to happen over and over again, people will just log out. And start not coming back... and little by little the servers will be left with only "that" kind of people. If you still dont understand where I trying to get at, fine my me, I dont have Rare shares nor do I work for them. Like a quote from an old boxing movie "if it dies, it dies." (the actual quote is "he" but it didnt make sense)

There IS a solo mode.
There IS a co-op PvE mode.
And they JUST released a co-op event for Rainbow Six.

The game is also BALANCED, whereas SoT is not.
Sloop vs Galleon, not balanced.
Operator vs Operator, balanced.

You may as well draw a comparison between dirt and disco music.

@ghost-0f-dawn I enjoy the PVP but what is the harm if they do allow PVE play?

Its not like the awards matter since there is no progression.

It wont impact server populations since there are only 6 ships in a server instance.

I wouldn't play on them, but I can't see what harm a PVE option would cause. If anything, it would make PVP servers better since easier, non PVP oriented people wouldn't be on them.

And if it meant more people purchased and played the game, it would be more revenue for Rare and more improvements/content.

Seems like a PVE option would be a win/win.

@xv-nizzo-vx of course you'll miss me and people like me, or .. who else would you grief? Idiots grieving eachother with nothing to gain from it? We'll see what game will you be playing when all its left on the servers are griefers like you.
On a side note, I dont really want or need you to agree with me, I... dont even know if you exist or not, for me you're just some letters on a screen. I just want the game to be a good game... you... I really dont care.

I always find it funny that many of the same PVP'ers that complain about people wanting safezones and such themselves are TERRIFIED of paying any penalty for being c**p at pvp (things like death penalties, rep penalties etc).

I'm pretty sure if the PVP'ers also had some potential loss in engaging other players we'd atleast see some better tactics in this game than what it is now.

(I said this before launch and I'll say it again, the lack of any penalty for failure is making every supposedly tension-filled fight boring unless chests are involved).

@xv-nizzo-vx that "soul" is defined as pve game with pvp aspects (thats why you dont exactly get rewarded by merely killing people or sinking ships). Besides... what kind of pvp game is it when you have the chance of not seeing anyone for hours? You think thats a pvp game core? So... let me see your reasoning if we're playing arma, with npcs there, and you drop in one end of the island, and I spawn in the opposite end (in a 200+km2 map with hundreds of outposts and bases and thousands of fully armed npc squads and platoons between us that we have to deal with) is it still a pvp game just because we can kill eachother if... by a remote change we ever cross paths? And considering all that, would you still kill the other player given that you stand no chance alone against all those npcs? For what? Just because you can? Wow... its because of people like you we have to have obvious c**p like "laws" and "constitutions" in this damn planet, or else the apes would take over and this would soon be a charred, lifeless wasteland - no common sense, no sense of right or wrong... and I'm a moral relativist.

Look... a pvp pirate game is Skull and Bones. thats ALL you do. Thats a game for you then.

1. This game called: "Sea of THIEVES"
2. It is a PIRATE game
3. [Mod edited]

@xv-nizzo-vx said in Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege:

Whoops. I tried to edit on my phone and accidentally posted again responding to you Lestat.

yea I noticed hehe - no prob.

@xv-nizzo-vx said in Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege:

@xv-nizzo-vx said in Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege:

@lestatpt1979 said in Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege:

@xv-nizzo-vx that "soul" is defined as pve game with pvp aspects (thats why you dont exactly get rewarded by merely killing people or sinking ships). Besides... what kind of pvp game is it when you have the chance of not seeing anyone for hours? You think thats a pvp game core? So... let me see your reasoning if we're playing arma, with npcs there, and you drop in one end of the island, and I spawn in the opposite end (in a 200+km2 map with hundreds of outposts and bases and thousands of fully armed npc squads and platoons between us that we have to deal with) is it still a pvp game just because we can kill eachother if... by a remote change we ever cross paths? And considering all that, would you still kill the other player given that you stand no chance alone against all those npcs? For what? Just because you can? Wow... its because of people like you we have to have obvious c**p like "laws" and "constitutions" in this damn planet, or else the apes would take over and this would soon be a charred, lifeless wasteland - no common sense, no sense of right or wrong... and I'm a moral relativist.

Look... a pvp pirate game is Skull and Bones. thats ALL you do. Thats a game for you then.

W*F are you even talking about? Did I say this was strictly a PvP game? It’s PvEvP. That’s what people like YOU don’t understand so don’t get upset when another person wants to destroy you as coming crying about it here. Instead just get lost from the game if you dislike it so much and stop whining on the forums about it.

No. You implied the "soul" of the game was pvp - which is not.

@ithegun said in Too much griefing in Rainbow Six Siege:

1. This game called: "Sea of THIEVES"
2. It is a PIRATE game
3. Git gud

Wow what a brilliant contribution. Now did you just stop there out of sheer ignorance or can you count to 10?

@xv-nizzo-vx but I do agree with the pvp - I just dont agree when you clearly see that people just kos and sink your ship and are not even into your stuff... just killing you. Some dont even go for the ships content or if it even HAS anything of value inside. Its dumb not because I get killed or because my ship sinks - ships are free, and I dont lose anything when I die. I'll just respawn and carry on my merry way - its the lack of purpose of such attitudes. "sink a ship for "whatevs""... alright then. Like when you see this kid building some legos, then comes some stupid kid and smashes your legos for "whatevs"... lol... its... pointless.

@xv-nizzo-vx oh no... like I said, my issue is with the game, not really the people. If I get p****d I just change servers or whatever - I just dont want to see a game like this turning into dayz - dude ANY new player that gets into dayz right now, will uninstall the game after 1 hour and ask for a refund just because of the community - and dayz also had a "great concept", devs let that behavior go, the game basically disappeared. As for me... I dont really care much, I dont get salty or anything when I get killed, I'll just log out and in whatever, plenty of fish in the sea (pun not intended) but trying to see through the eyes of a "different person" and new player... damn, its "uninstall and refund time". The game has to get a healthy population... and what do you see right now? The game is out for like... a week or something and more than half of the comments, reviews, videos whatever you see are people complaining about the same stuff - its not like you get whiny and go cry to mommy because you get killed, its more... you dont feel welcomed as a new player. Install game, spawn, galleon in front, 4 cannon shots, guys jump out like maniacs, yelling noob and b***h and whatever and kill you - those were your first 5 minutes of the game, you didnt even get to see the damn first island you spawned in lol.... most people dont just go "ok I'll relog", they try 2 or 3 times, and go "[Mod edited] this"

@xv-nizzo-vx "Personally when I have players kill me or try to that sends me into destroy mode where I want to go after them until they are obliterated"

lol yea, I do that also. But just remember that is NOT most of the population. Only a very small percentage do that and go "screw this i'm gonna make these guys life a living hell for the next 2 hours" and charge your mighty sloop against their galleon at full sail while yelling "IM BACK NO [Mod Edited] GIVEN" lol... while fun, most people are not like this lol