#raisethecap
Requirements to become Pirate Lord:
It’s that simple. As with everything in SoT, you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to. If you’re happy with reaching Pirate Legend status, more power to you. This is a suggestion from a long-time PL to raise the caps and offer a new title for the people who love the game and play it often... Pirate Lord!
What are your thoughts?
@theunionjames Lol it certainly is easy to complain online, myself included. I wholeheartedly agree with more difficult remixes...some kind of Nightmare Mode for the intrepid players. I’d love to see something more challenging than Athena’s voyages. Something... next level.
@nathanuserectus said in Become a Pirate Legend... Become a Pirate Lord!!!:
@they-sank I want new content..I don't want to repeat the same content over and over.
I can’t disagree with you there. Personally, I don’t have much faith in the “new content” category. Ask for new content and receive... new lantern colors. Modifying content that already exists is, at the least, much easier than producing entirely new content.
@ant-heuser-kush said in Become a Pirate Legend... Become a Pirate Lord!!!:
@they-sank said in Become a Pirate Legend... Become a Pirate Lord!!!:
#raisethecap
Requirements to become Pirate Lord:
- Gold Hoarder Level 100
- Order of Souls Level 100
- Merchant Alliance Level 100
It’s that simple. As with everything in SoT, you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to. If you’re happy with reaching Pirate Legend status, more power to you. This is a suggestion from a long-time PL to raise the caps and offer a new title for the people who love the game and play it often... Pirate Lord!
What are your thoughts?
I love the idea, but raising the cap is just more of the same. We need better reasons to voyage, new trading companies like the Sea Dogs. A Pirare Lord should be the master of everything, not GH 2.0, OoS 2.0, and MA 2.0 because all that really is is Pirate Legend 2.0. Which is exactly what Athena rank is -- just more of the same.
I totally agree with @Ant-Heuser-Kush here! Becoming a Pirate Lord would be a nice evolution of being a Pirate Legend. However, we need to find a better way to get there instead of doing more the same. Like @TheUnionJames said it is the same problem.
What it means to be a Pirate Legend needs to be more fleshed out and life given to be a legend first. There has to be more than a few choices of skins that others can get most of by just doing Athena voyages. There needs to be much more than a unending grind of bundled voyages of the same thing we did to get to 50/50/50.
As things get fleshed out more voyage wise I would prefer a system where the cap is endless and upon reaching certain ranks you unlock complete sets that you can't unlock any other way, forget the idea of a limited cap system.
This would provide another reason to keep playing among further inrementing the commendations associated with them and linking other single item skins with those or visa versa hit 75 get the fist "teaser skin" from a set, unlock the commendation at 100 once you also speak to the NPC's and you get the rest of the set.
@ant-heuser-kush I agree with you and have also fantasized about a myriad of new PL content. At the least, more of the same is better than nothing and much easier to implement than something completely new. Every new content release introduces the risk of creating new bugs and/or reintroducing old bugs, and most of the new content that’s been released is shallow, short-lived, and designed for everyone new to the game. Between Shrouded Spoils and the new arena gametype, I’m hard pressed to think that rare has the time/energy/effort/resources to focus on an entirely new way to play the game that is exclusive to PLs. Fingers crossed!
I would love for us to be able to one day reach "Legendary Captain" status after they release more content / quests / trading companies. Perhaps years down the road after they've worked out a way to make the idea of going from "Legendary Captain" to "Pirate Lord" a really cool and memorable experience then yeah I'd for sure be all for that.
When / if I become a Pirate Lord I don't want to get there because I got another 50 levels in the trading companies and 10 more levels in Athena. I want a massive quest line that takes them months to release. (The quests would remain in the game unlike previous quests so newer players could do them all in one go eventually).
I want it to be a huge moment and not something that gets released and I finish in two hours or less because I followed a guide online. I want it to be on my ship that I fully customized from bow to stern and named as a Legendary Captain. It needs to be a huge deal; a celebration of sorts.
Then afterwards I want voyages that require me to basically go to war with and hunt down Skeleton Lords. I want them to come at me with fleets and after assembling a fleet of my own I want to plunder their ships and bask in their riches.
Yeah down the road, absolutely. Just not yet though.
@je0rgie-p0rgie I am also hoping for a huge, in-depth content drop aimed towards PL progression, hopefully by next summer. In the meantime, it’d be great if they’d throw a PL dog a bone... I realize that legendary commendations are coming with Shrouded Spoils. I am hoping it is a fun bone to chew.
I know what you're on about... however.
Why top rank it at 100... why not 150... or even 200?
Would Pirate "Lord" be the new top title name?
Why not Pirate "Baron, Viscount, Earl, Marquess, Duke... etc....."
When we start down this road, no level of achievement will ever be enough for people.
Personally I believe that Pirate Lord should be reserved purely for the Lore.
'Legend' alone should be enough for anyone, after-all a true 'Legend' should know who he/she is.
@they-sank No thank you. PL is already bore and an overall meaningless title because of how monotonous it is to get. Just adding another title at the end of an even longer pointless time sink would just make things worse. The whole pirate legend thing was gone about in a really bad way. Instead of continuing with this broken system(It should still be fixed though) it would be much better IMO to branch off. Instead of doing something so uninspired as "max everything and you... win?" make it more about alternative routes that lead to different titles and rewards. Let players chose shorter paths that are much more varied in both how you get there and what you get for it. If they want to do more of the paths or all of them they can choose to do so, but they will only miss out on a faction by faction basis.
@piratecraggy said in Become a Pirate Legend... Become a Pirate Lord!!!:
I know what you're on about... however.
Why top rank it at 100... why not 150... or even 200?
Would Pirate "Lord" be the new top title name?
Why not Pirate "Baron, Viscount, Earl, Marquess, Duke... etc....."When we start down this road, no level of achievement will ever be enough for people.
Personally I believe that Pirate Lord should be reserved purely for the Lore.
'Legend' alone should be enough for anyone, after-all a true 'Legend' should know who he is.
I agree that no level of achievement is ever going to be enough for people, but a level of achievement that lives longer than 6 months after a AAA game’s release is a reasonable request.
I chose Pirate Lord because it is already in the game. Purchasing Athenas quests from the Pirate Lord once a player becomes Pirate Legend leads me to think that becoming Pirate Lord is the next step.
DBZ reference People don’t want to just be saiyan, they want to be super saiyan. People don’t want to just be super saiyan, they want to be super saiyan second grade etc...
As someone stated earlier, they enjoyed cashing loot in more when it also counted towards their rank. I am in the same boat.
Well.. good luck with that.
I respectfully disagree that "one naturally leads to the other"... re. the Pirate Lord is in the game & I feel it's the next entitled step, & therefore the next entitled... title.
The "Lord" is part of the Lore.... we aren't.
I'm sure we will continue to enjoy our journeys regardless.
Title or no Title, we are all simply pirates at the end of the day.
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Having said all that...
And in reference to what has happened to the game, & its direction of late.
Let me be the first to congratulate you... as your idea it will probably happen.
So... kudos!!!!
( I've given up guessing, what next is going to creep out of the box of ideas, escape quarantine, and possibly permeate the zombie apocalypse )
So... helluva idea.. congrats!....
I'm going to go & do a little sailing, & probably by next week be fishing ( something I've never wanted, but will end up going along with ).
I'll be happy.... if all I land is Rainbow Trout :) ...as in real life.
At the end of the day... it's a game for everyone.
If a "new" title would make you happy.
Be happy, the odds are probably in your corner. :)
@piratecraggy I’ll raise my grog to our joy of the journey. The title/cosmetics are an afterthought compared to the journey itself, perhaps what I’m yearning is a long-term content release that requires an even larger investment of time and skill compared to the PL achievement without some huge revamp of the whole operating system. Something simple to implement yet takes longer than 4 weeks to complete, unlike the direction of all the dlc so far...
This sounds like a long time thing for us pirate legends! Now that alliances have been introduced, I've seen some people reach Athena 10 in merely 4 days! This would be a real grind if reaching 10 isn't enough. But on this topic there will most likely have to be more valuable chests and skulls. If there are better chests and skulls, then the Stronghold chest and Stronghold skull would lose value. at level 49 you barely get any reputation from a captains chest and I could barely imagine how many captain chests you would need to get from 99 to 100.
I like it only if there was a way of seeing you are a Lord like there is with the Athena clothing and items for Pirate Legend.
@they-sank said in Become a Pirate Legend... Become a Pirate Lord!!!:
@piratecraggy I’ll raise my grog to our joy of the journey. The title/cosmetics are an afterthought compared to the journey itself, perhaps what I’m yearning is a long-term content release that requires an even larger investment of time and skill compared to the PL achievement without some huge revamp of the whole operating system. Something simple to implement yet takes longer than 4 weeks to complete, unlike the direction of all the dlc so far...
I Agree with you completely, with your points there.
We are on the same page with ...... Longer ranged "goals". Definitely.
Something does need to done, the mechanics behind it?
Well, Although I'm not a great fan of shifting the "levels up" , I have to admit I don't have a solution.
Hmmmm... As things are, this grind would be abysmal and I doubt many people would have any interest in doing something like this. When you get to level 43 in any of the trading companies, you have to turn in like 10-12 of the 4th tier loot to see an amount of progress that you're remotely satisfied with.
If something like this happened, then they'd have to do more than just raise the cap. They'd need to add ways to make that grind fun. I know right before I became a legend, I was nearly burnt out.
Now with Athena's Fortune, I was fine with starting a DIFFERENT grind. In my opinion, rather than increasing the cap on the existing companies, I'd like to see things go in a lateral direction, where we have new and different companies to grind in. I'm done with the Legend grind. I've finished the Athena grind. I'm happy that I can put a stamp on those and be finished with them. I would rather have something new to go on to. Like the Sea Dogs for The Arena. I want more of that direction.
Also, I don't feel like anyone but Ramsey should be a Pirate Lord. It would be depressing to see a bunch of players who have the same title as Ramsey.
@goedecke-michel said in Become a Pirate Legend... Become a Pirate Lord!!!:
@they-sank why should we need this... I don't want to.
Like everything else in SoT, you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to. I want something like this personally because I enjoy ranking up and am more of a hardcore player.
If anyone here recalls the game Halo: Reach, the ranking system was set up so that it took a very long time to ‘reach’ the highest rank, well over a year of playing daily, roughly speaking. Whereas, in SoT, I reached PL in 34 days...
Of course, they’re totally different games. I know I’m comparing apples to oranges but am doing so for the sake of expressing what I’d like to see happen. Burp
PL10 and enoying the game.
I dont need higher level caps or more to strive for.
Im a pirate. I play to be a pirate not for some rank/title/cosmetic.
Nowadays everyone wants like a pet on the back for what they be doing. Max lvl means no more pets on the back. Does that matter? U only enjoyed the game when the rep slightly went up?
No i enjoy the game when i sail and see what ever happens on the sea. Meet or fight people and have a story to tell.
Its fine as it is. But thats just me.
@closinghare208 said in Become a Pirate Legend... Become a Pirate Lord!!!:
@they-sank this wouldn't work for exsisting lengends
Feel free to digress. Why wouldn’t it work for existing legends?
@chronodusk I heavily agree. Why would there be more pirate lords than one. It wouldn’t make any sense.
SPoiler Alert: there could be multiple pirate lords. However it would only make sense if there was a tier above Pirate Lord only held by an NPC Titled "Pirate King" and a new sea of thieves character introduced "Straw Hat Luffy".
You're welcome, I've just single handedly added 3 more years to SOT, I'll be taking that pirate lord status now.
Requirements:
50 in all 5 trade companies
completion of all quest (not accommodations)
Athena Level 10
Unlocks:
nothing new, simply a way to activate "nightmare mode" on voyages for those who like it rough :-P Really though a cool thought here: a special ship for legends/lords that has it's own increased difficulty like the sloop/brig/gally.
@they-sank if the only interesting thing in this game is a number that's going up, would be really sad
I'm glad, I have everything on maximum so I can play like I want...getting commendations, getting the last achievements...
So no, please no higher level cap
for me add some more stuff to see is good i upvoted him congrats for the idea and hope rare listens u @they-sank
@zaannox whaddya mean? You’d already be level 100 in all 3 factions! This is an idea from a while ago, with a basic premise. Content takes months and months and months to produce, whereas raising the rank caps is a quick “fix” to give PLs something to do.
Also, with the new factions coming, wouldn’t it be nice to find value in all loot again instead of just fish and PvP?
