We got a sniper, blunder, and pistol, but No Musket Something that was used a lot during the age of piracy.
The Musket pellets would do 50 damage maybe more or less but you could equip the bayonet it would take a couple seconds to equip it would be put into a melee mode where you could slash them doing 15 damage and block then to fire you can unequip going through another animation it would be a mulit-purposes weapon It may not be meta but fun to use
Hope you like this idea :)
@arthurm18991928 EoR is (essentially) a musket!
Want a melee attack with a 50% damage shot? Use a cutlass and flintlock! 🙄
@arthurm18991928 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@galactic-geek I am sick of you hating on everybody's post you say every is bad
I don't think every post is bad and I certainly don't hate them - that's a falsehood.
I just think MOST ideas shared here are bad. Because they are!
It's a simple fact.
I even explain why they're bad in almost every post too.
That's not bashing on those who come up with these bad ideas - it's just being critical of their thought process, because those who have bad ideas are either doing so through emotional outbursts, or are ignorant, or are simply not considering the effects of their idea in regards to the bigger picture.
In regards to your idea itself - it's redundant and unoriginal. Many a pirate made this suggestion years ago, and yet we still don't have it. Why not? Because Rare decided that it wasn't needed.
@arthurm18991928 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@galactic-geek you could say it in a more polite way
Possibly. Probably. The only thing is, I could say it in the most plain matter-of-fact way way possible, and often do, and yet the interpretation of the reader like yourself can still color their view of my post as negative even when it isn't.
In a nutshell, just think of me as an unofficial QA - I ensure quality assurance.
@arthurm18991928 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@galactic-geek I am sick of you hating on everybody's post you say every is bad
Hi,
That's not very nice lol. You know:
you could say it in a more polite way.
Cheers ;)
The problem at the core of the idea of having a musket with a bayonet and no scope is all about balance and function. When it comes to firearms, we already have the trinity of short, medium, and long-range. It's already been boiled down to its core components and is perfectly balanced as a result. Inserting something new into that disrupts that balance or forces the others to change their place in the grand scheme of things.
It's like adding sandpaper into a game of rock-paper-scissors. It just doesn't mesh well.
We don't need more ranged weapons in this game, and we certainly don't need a melee/ranged hybrid, unless it was the only weapon a player could use.
We need more melee weapons above all else. Having only one (the cutlass) has made balance a nightmare, with someone complaining nearly every day. Having additional options will allow for differentiation, like with the current selection of firearms.
@joe-krakatoa said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
I think a better idea would be to remove the scope from the EoR and have a butt stock strike instead.
I never liked a sniper rifle instead of a proper musket.
I do like the idea of a usable bayonet, or perhaps remove the scope to attach a blade.
The problem with using the stock of the gun is this: what's to stop the other firearms from using theirs afterwards? 'Cause you know that's what double-gunning enthusiastic pirates will be clamoring for once they get their grubby hands on such a rifle. This then, of course, would further demean the only melee weapon upon the Sea thus far. And then you have to start asking yourself - why can't we melee with a plank? A shovel? A banjo? A frying pan!? Where will it end!!?
...actually, that last 1's probably not a bad idea. 😏
@galactic-geek said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@arthurm18991928 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@galactic-geek you could say it in a more polite way
Possibly. Probably. The only thing is, I could say it in the most plain matter-of-fact way way possible, and often do, and yet the interpretation of the reader like yourself can still color their view of my post as negative even when it isn't.
In a nutshell, just think of me as an unofficial QA - I ensure quality assurance.
I certainly dont think of you as an unofficial QA.
You have the same experience as the rest of us.
You see yourself as a cut above others on this forum.
You're Hubris is amusing.
@shadow20642 Hubris? There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's own accomplishments. After all, if you're not allowed to be proud, how can you ever possibly remain happy?
@galactic-geek said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@shadow20642 Hubris? There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's own accomplishments. After all, if you're not allowed to be proud, how can you ever possibly remain happy?
Perhaps you can enlighten us all into what exactly you think you have accomplished here?
@shadow20642 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@galactic-geek said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@shadow20642 Hubris? There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's own accomplishments. After all, if you're not allowed to be proud, how can you ever possibly remain happy?
Perhaps you can enlighten us all into what exactly you think you have accomplished here?
Why are you off-topic? 😉
@shadow20642 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@galactic-geek said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@shadow20642 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@galactic-geek said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@shadow20642 Hubris? There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's own accomplishments. After all, if you're not allowed to be proud, how can you ever possibly remain happy?
Perhaps you can enlighten us all into what exactly you think you have accomplished here?
Why are you off-topic? 😉
Im not at all.
Its a direct response to what you just said there.
I think whats really happening here is that you dont have an answer for that question.
You think of yourself as an unofficial QA but in reality you just come here to make people feel bad about their ideas to make yourself feel better abour your own lack of accomplishment.
Thats what it looks like anyways from your conduct on nearly every post you make.
Crack on though mate.
Deep down nobody really cares what anybody has to say on here.
@galactic-geek i can agree with @arthurm18991928 i dont think much of a compliment sandwich come from you
@shadow20642 said:
but in reality you just come here to make people feel bad about their ideas to make yourself feel better abour your own lack of accomplishment.
Quite the contrary. I visit here because I care about the game that I enjoy, and I don't want to see it ruined by potentially bad ideas. So, I make an effort to show others where there might be holes in their ideas in regards to the bigger picture, so that they may come up with alternative, or better, ideas. This may often come off negatively, but that's only because as problems arise, there's more to say. When an idea is actually good, there's not as much to say, except to agree and say that it's a good idea, as well as why you might agree.
I'm usually respectful most of the time, but I sometimes lose sight of that as many bad ideas are oft repeated by numerous others. That's just a fault of being human, and tedium.
Adding a bayonet itself isn't a bad idea - it's just really a question of how best to implement it at all without breaking the current balance of gameplay or seeming redundant.
Hi all,
Deep down nobody really cares what anybody has to say on here.
I don't think that is true at all. I think if it were true then there would be no posts and no replies and the forum would cease to exist. I also believe that many do care, and that is why people afford you replies out of respect, rather than ignoring you, which is more of an indication that no one cares.
Now a more general observation:
There is a major logical flaw in ruling out what others say just because they don't dress it up with all roses and rainbows, or overanalysing the delivery rather than the content - this is in itself part of the absurdist nature of the Human condition.
I understand that we all want to live in this idealist world of paradoxical "total equality" and where everyone is nice and offending others is punishable by eternal banishment to a mining colony off Jupiter.
But if your idea is bad/good and does not stand up to rational scrutiny on this public forum which invites feedback and all the opinions that come with it, then you should actually cherish the honesty of brutal feedback - because you may already know in life that honesty to your face is an increasingly rare thing. Humans are biologically (for the most part) very agreeable and we have all said "yes" to someone when we wanted to say "no".
Now there are definitely "helpful" and "unhelpful" ways of delivering feedback, but there are people who actually prefer the honest brutal feedback over the "management sandwich" of dressing up the bad part of someone's argument with two "nice" bits of bread to soften the blow and actually assuming that the person you are speaking too is too weak to handle the blunt truth.
But the really important part here is that it is really up to you - dear reader - how you choose to react to this comment you are reading right now. You can choose to be offended by this point of view and that will get you nowhere and merely demonstrate you lack of resilience and the barometrical extent of you emotional control, be it here virtually or otherwise. Or you can read the comment objectively and take the message - and turn it in your brain into feedback that you can use to improve upon.
Just because a message is "not nice" or "rude" - that doesn't mean it isn't valid, in the same way, just because a comment is "nice" and "polite" that doesn't give it any more authority over the other.
We don't owe each other niceties, these are things that are earnt alongside respect, but I do think we should be civil and I have seen little evidence to suggest that Greedo hasn't been. You may also want to think - what would you rather have, the honest opinions from others, or them just telling you want you want to hear...all of these things need to be considered to have a truly rounded response to others.
Cheers all!
@gunner-rat said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
Hi all,
Deep down nobody really cares what anybody has to say on here.
I don't think that is true at all. I think if it were true then there would be no posts and no replies and the forum would cease to exist. I also believe that many do care, and that is why people afford you replies out of respect, rather than ignoring you, which is more of an indication that no one cares.
Now a more general observation:
There is a major logical flaw in ruling out what others say just because they don't dress it up with all roses and rainbows, or overanalysing the delivery rather than the content - this is in itself part of the absurdist nature of the Human condition.
I understand that we all want to live in this idealist world of paradoxical "total equality" and where everyone is nice and offending others is punishable by eternal banishment to a mining colony off Jupiter.
But if your idea is bad/good and does not stand up to rational scrutiny on this public forum which invites feedback and all the opinions that come with it, then you should actually cherish the honesty of brutal feedback - because you may already know in life that honesty to your face is an increasingly rare thing. Humans are biologically (for the most part) very agreeable and we have all said "yes" to someone when we wanted to say "no".
Now there are definitely "helpful" and "unhelpful" ways of delivering feedback, but there are people who actually prefer the honest brutal feedback over the "management sandwich" of dressing up the bad part of someone's argument with two "nice" bits of bread to soften the blow and actually assuming that the person you are speaking too is too weak to handle the blunt truth.
But the really important part here is that it is really up to you - dear reader - how you choose to react to this comment you are reading right now. You can choose to be offended by this point of view and that will get you nowhere and merely demonstrate you lack of resilience and the barometrical extent of you emotional control, be it here virtually or otherwise. Or you can read the comment objectively and take the message - and turn it in your brain into feedback that you can use to improve upon.
Just because a message is "not nice" or "rude" - that doesn't mean it isn't valid, in the same way, just because a comment is "nice" and "polite" that doesn't give it any more authority over the other.
We don't owe each other niceties, these are things that are earnt alongside respect, but I do think we should be civil and I have seen little evidence to suggest that Greedo hasn't been. You may also want to think - what would you rather have, the honest opinions from others, or them just telling you want you want to hear...all of these things need to be considered to have a truly rounded response to others.
Cheers all!
Thats all fair and good and im inclined to agree....
But i havent seen the guy say a nice thing about any idea like hardly ever.
It gets old quick. Its not based off this, its like every thread ive seen.
Im convinced he is actually Simon Cowell haha.
@galactic-geek I admire your passion for the game. Its something we have in common. But you aint an unofficial QA. You are the same as us.
Unless of course you are saying we are all unofficial QAs then finally i think for once we actually agree on something. That and that PVE only servers are trash.
Hi man,
Yes I understand, however I'm sure you can also appreciate that Greedo doesn't have to say nice things (and vice versa) and often we see signs that people will echo the chamber with agreeance (e.g "great idea" or one of my pet hates; "this") in threads and then someone comes along with a "game breaker" comment that ruins their party and says "this is bad because of x, y and z" and they are then the big bad wolf that made the comments section "lose their minds".
There is sound psychology behind this and it is well documented in Transactional Analysis in terms of "the games people play".
Hehe yes, Greedo might be Simon Cowell, but to be fair, Simon Cowell knows his industry and knows what will be successful. He is an expert in his field, so you may have actually just complemented Greedo, regardless as to how high he wears his trousers and no matter how rude. :D
But you might have also deeply offended him (unlikely but now I am playing the devils advocate) and he in turn will deem your comment as "not very nice". I don't think for one second he has taken it that way (and in no way think it was intended too) and if he did - again that is his choice whether to be offended or not. I think he will see it as quite funny given his robustness in giving feedback. Of course I can't speak for him and I could be wrong, but correlating dispositions say otherwise.
Anyway, I respect that you took the comments so well and there is no harm in everyone having their say and I would stand by for your right to do so. At least we are united in our objections to the PvE crusades anyway. :)
Cheers.
While I do like this idea in the aspect of having more choices, I can foresee some balance issues. Perhaps maybe force the musket to take up both primary and secondary slots and have damage similar to that of a pistol with a longer reload time?
I personally am unsure as I’m not in the business of game balancing but I like where your heads at!
@gunner-rat said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
Hi man,
Yes I understand, however I'm sure you can also appreciate that Greedo doesn't have to say nice things (and vice versa) and often we see signs that people will echo the chamber with agreeance (e.g "great idea" or one of my pet hates; "this") in threads and then someone comes along with a "game breaker" comment that ruins their party and says "this is bad because of x, y and z" and they are then the big bad wolf that made the comments section "lose their minds".
There is sound psychology behind this and it is well documented in Transactional Analysis in terms of "the games people play".
Hehe yes, Greedo might be Simon Cowell, but to be fair, Simon Cowell knows his industry and knows what will be successful. He is an expert in his field, so you may have actually just complemented Greedo, regardless as to how high he wears his trousers and no matter how rude. :D
But you might have also deeply offended him (unlikely but now I am playing the devils advocate) and he in turn will deem your comment as "not very nice". I don't think for one second he has taken it that way (and in no way think it was intended too) and if he did - again that is his choice whether to be offended or not. I think he will see it as quite funny given his robustness in giving feedback. Of course I can't speak for him and I could be wrong, but correlating dispositions say otherwise.
Anyway, I respect that you took the comments so well and there is no harm in everyone having their say and I would stand by for your right to do so. At least we are united in our objections to the PvE crusades anyway. :)
Cheers.
Judging by your response and your pet name "Greedo" its clear this guy is a friend to you.
Simon cowell is an industry expert yes.
Greedo is not.
So no, it wasnt a compliment.
We all have the same experience as eachother more or less so our view of what is or isnt the "bigger picture" can only be answered by Rare itself.
Nobody is right or wrong and nobody is certainly an "Unofficial QA", what nonsense.
We are a bunch of gamers that play the same game, most of us since day 1.
So our inputs are mere opinions and our collective agreement on such things is ultimately what matters.
Very faintly similar to a Jury but also nothing like a jury.
We are not experts.
We are nothing.
Nothing but a bunch of gamers.
Dont disillusion yourself that we are anything more for that would be incredibly foolish.
What we all must try and do though even if its a bad idea is be mindful.
Theres a lot of people with poor mental health and people have never been more isolated with human contact.
So lets try and be relatively positive and nice to eachother and be more mindful even if we think a particular idea is garbage.
Take care.
@shadow20642 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
Judging by your response and your pet name "Greedo" its clear this guy is a friend to you.
Hi there.
Incorrect. I have never met and am yet to have a game with Greedo ever. His profile pic is just easy to reference.
Simon cowell is an industry expert yes.
Greedo is not.
So no, it wasnt a compliment.
Even so, you are calling out someone for not being nice and have just admitted to doing so. That is hypocritical.
We all have the same experience as eachother more or less so our view of what is or isnt the "bigger picture" can only be answered by Rare itself.
No we do not all have the same experience as personal interpretations will vary wildly when it comes to Humans, the aim is to probably provide consistency in it's delivery, but your explanation is pseudo-scientific at best.
Nobody is right or wrong and nobody is certainly an "Unofficial QA", what nonsense.
Metaphysically, that is also untrue from a rationally objective point of view. We could get into philosophy here and talk about world views that accommodate induction, but we don't have to because you also contradict yourself here:
If nobody "is right or wrong", then how can you say that "nobody is certainly an "Unofficial QA"? You are saying Greedo is "wrong". But you already established that you have no right to determine what is right and wrong, since your presupposition is that nobody "is right or wrong". That is nonsense.
We are a bunch of gamers that play the same game, most of us since day 1.
So our inputs are mere opinions and our collective agreement on such things is ultimately what matters. Kinda like a jury.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that the game works as some kind of democracy out of Plato's Republic, but it clearly doesn't thankfully. It is more like an oligarchy lol.
We are not experts.
We are nothing.
Nothing but a bunch of gamers.Dont disillusion yourself that we are anything more for that would be incredibly foolish.
Take care.
You are speaking for yourself there and while I can appreciate a bit of self deprecation, we do not know about the expertise that exists among the playerbase.
You also contradict yourself again. First you say we are like a jury. Well a jury isn't "nothing" - they are an intrinsic part of what underpins the fabric of civilisation lol. Make your mind up - we cannot be both "nothing" and have the authority of a Jury.
All the best.
Cheers.
@gunner-rat said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
@shadow20642 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
Judging by your response and your pet name "Greedo" its clear this guy is a friend to you.
Hi there.
Incorrect. I have never met and am yet to have a game with Greedo ever. His profile pic is just easy to reference.
Simon cowell is an industry expert yes.
Greedo is not.
So no, it wasnt a compliment.Even so, you are calling out someone for not being nice and have just admitted to doing so. That is hypocritical.
We all have the same experience as eachother more or less so our view of what is or isnt the "bigger picture" can only be answered by Rare itself.
No we do not all have the same experience as personal interpretations will vary wildly when it comes to Humans, the aim is to probably provide consistency in it's delivery, but your explanation is pseudo-scientific at best.
Nobody is right or wrong and nobody is certainly an "Unofficial QA", what nonsense.
Metaphysically, that is also untrue from a rationally objective point of view. We could get into philosophy here and talk about world views that accommodate induction, but we don't have to because you also contradict yourself here:
If nobody "is right or wrong", then how can you say that "nobody is certainly an "Unofficial QA"? You are saying Greedo is "wrong". But you already established that you have no right to determine what is right and wrong, since your presupposition is that nobody "is right or wrong". That is nonsense.
We are a bunch of gamers that play the same game, most of us since day 1.
So our inputs are mere opinions and our collective agreement on such things is ultimately what matters. Kinda like a jury.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that the game works as some kind of democracy out of Plato's Republic, but it clearly doesn't thankfully. It is more like an oligarchy lol.
We are not experts.
We are nothing.
Nothing but a bunch of gamers.Dont disillusion yourself that we are anything more for that would be incredibly foolish.
Take care.
You are speaking for yourself there and while I can appreciate a bit of self deprecation, we do not know about the expertise that exists among the playerbase.
You also contradict yourself again. First you say we are like a jury. Well a jury isn't "nothing" - they are an intrinsic part of what underpins the fabric of civilisation lol. Make your mind up - we cannot be both "nothing" and have the authority of a Jury.
Cheers.
First of all.
Quoting plato and going that deep is
1Ridiculous.
2 irelevant
3, Flexing intelligence but really coming across as the opposite.
This isnt the houses of parliament, its a video game forum. This isnt college debate class lol.
Next, im a hypocrit for calling someone out for not being nice?
Well not really.
My issue is about the constant disapproval of every thread he enters.
He might actually be right that they may be poor sometimes but its every time that i see.
Mindfulness is my point.
Lots of people isolated, cut off due to pandemic.
Where do you go? Online of course.
Come here, submit an idea.
Negative negative negative.
Yeah honest feedback is good but it can also be too harsh too often here.
Try and be more mindful is my message.
People are taking their own lives and you dont want to be the person to sets someone over the edge by being an "unofficial QA".
Try and be more constructive in why it wouldnt work and possibly offer a solution. If there isnt one. Be pleasant in your delivery not condescending despite how many similar threads you see.
You dont know who is on the other end but being pleasant might save a life.
Food for thought.
If you cant agree with that my friend then you are part of the problem.
@shadow20642 said in Add a Musket with a bayonet:
First of all.
Quoting plato and going that deep is
1Ridiculous.
2 irelevant
3, Flexing intelligence but really coming across as the opposite.
Hi,
Well that is your opinion. I am not intelligent at all in the grand scheme of things and there is always someone more intelligent anyway. Interesting how you see that - and must have actually thought I am intelligent to then come up with the riposte in trying to disarm me by claiming I am not intelligent. For example, I do not believe you or anyone here in unintelligent as you haven't given any context to measure that by, but generally, everyone knows one thing that someone else doesn't know.
Alas, If I am coming over as unintelligent then that is absolutely fine with me and I am comfortable in my inferiority. But I think Socrates said "I am the wisest man in the world for I know one thing, that is I know nothing". lol
This isnt the houses of parliament, its a video game forum. This isnt college debate class lol.
Hehe. But seriously, yes that is a fair point and my non neuro typical programming often makes it difficult to put short answers- but that is noted that I need to be more concise.
Next, im a hypocrit for calling someone out for not being nice?
Well not really.
Yes. Exactly that. You want others to be nice, but move the goalpost for how you should interact with others. It makes what you say very hard to take seriously because it shows inconsistency in what you truly believe. Please see this constructively - if you are going to call people out, then perhaps do so practicing the mindfulness that you preach others should use.
My issue is about the constant disapproval of every thread he enters.
He might actually be right that they may be poor sometimes but its every time that i see.Mindfulness is my point.
Lots of people isolated, cut off due to pandemic.Where do you go? Online of course.
Come here, submit an idea.
Negative negative negative.Yeah honest feedback is good but it can also be too harsh too often here.
Try and be more mindful is my message.
People are taking their own lives and you dont want to be the person to sets someone over the edge by being an "unofficial QA".
I think we are going around in circles now. I totally get the mindfulness aspect and you are right to bring it up.
All the best.
Cheers
P.S I noticed you deleted the comment and re-wrote it. Absolutely fine, just to let you know I have removed my initial response to it and re-written it here accordingly.
