Some of the game's achievements seem tedious.

@snikefriend No offense, but for a self proclaimed achievement hunter you sure didn't go about it in an effective way for this game. I mean, c'mon how do you get 0% in OoS?

They are called achievements for a reason and these hardly need any nerfing as they are. You just didn't play very smart for an achievement hunter, focusing more on quick accession rather than working on the known requirements for the achievements. Myself I rank at 46 (21%), 32 (2%) and 28 (10%) - almost all of it done solo and very few alliances to pad those stats (less than a handful total, but a couple were pretty lucrative).

The miles is a tough one, but not too bad if you play it smart - especially after the update. Simply throw down a voyage at the same time you are doing a Tall Tale (they can both be active on the Captain's Table at the same time) and the miles you travel will count towards that voyage - whether you complete it or not (though in your case I would recommend it). I see the merchant one taking the longest since they nerfed the distance and buffed the payout of those voyages a while back. I am currently at 44% on the Gold Hoarders one now so don't see that as unachievable one bit, especially given the higher level voyages are multi-part.

A true achievement hunter wouldn't complain about this, they'd just get 'er done and then show off their worthy badge of honor.

I am the 0.01%

All of you have some catching up to do....

j/k I'm still hunting those achievements XD

Although I somewhat agree with you, @snikefriend, I have seen far worse achievements in games than these.

I haven't completed a lot of voyages myself, because all I did was forts back in the day. Remember when they were contested and only spawned every 3 hours? Ah! Those were the days. I would like to know why there aren't any Achievements considering forts! All we have is a few commendations that have lost their value since forts aren't that contested any more thanks to the Shrouded Spoils.

Are you kidding me right now?

My feelings on this are mixed.

I hit PL a long time ago. Got a little burned out in the process (we didn't have no fancy Duke's and his letters of recommendation back in my day ye whipper snappers)

One of the things that brought me back after the post PL blues was grinding out the achievements. Not that I managed to get any of the fancy ones in time for the over-achiever sails [which would have looked lovely with the anniversary PL hull :( ]

The game now has a lot more to do, but as with all content, eventually you'll have done it all. I'd still like to think that there are some chievos that might draw people back to the game if they hit a bit of a wall like I did.

On the other hand, I definitely didn't do 250 gold hoarder voyages before I hit PL, if I had wanted to grab that achievement on my journey to PL I'd probably feel a bit like the OP.

@snikefriend said in Some of the game's achievements seem tedious.:

@dlchief58 Well, I sure am an achievement hunter since I have about 170.000G. With that said, having 0% in MA is because there is no need to do voyages, crates and stuff you find/salvage/win are enough to go to lvl 50. The same goes for all other merchants. Also, why bother arguing about a fact? The fact is the completion percentage shown by Xbox Live. As I said, 0,01% completion speaks for itself. Anyway, I respect your opinion but believe me, having spent hundrends of hours in this game I can safely tell you that 250 voyages are way more than "an achievement".

Also, miles while in Tall Tales doesn't count. I had a Gold Hoarder voyage put down while doing TT and it didn't count.

Well as someone who has nearly 70K on you in terms of Gamerscore, I think I know what I am talking about when I say that you absolutely did not approach this game correctly as an achievement hunter. While you chose the easy way to get some of those achievements (purchasing and disposing of them I presume) as well as rising in faction levels, you ignored the some cardinal rules of efficient achievement hunter - avoid doing things twice whenever possible, combine tasks to maximize achievement output for time invested.

You changed the order of which you referred to your factions so confused me there, 0% in merchant does make more sense. These are rare achievements that require dedication, so yes they are going to have low percentages and that does not mean they need to be nerfed any further. Down to 50 is purely ridiculous, anyone could get that with little commitment. This is nowhere near the Banana crate deal which was ridiculous, and if I recall correctly they already nerfed this considerably from what it was at launch (checked and yes, they cut this achievement in half already). Many have already gotten this achievement, so it is far from a huge issue.

You may have spent a lot of time in the game, but you didn't spend it wisely as an achievement hunter. If you want to be considered a good achievement hunter, you are going to have to deal with a lot of things you might not like to do...and have to do them A LOT. Even worse if you are on of those ADD completionists...glad I don't have that compulsion, just like earning achievements.

@snikefriend said in Some of the game's achievements seem tedious.:

@dlchief58
Yes, you are 70k on top of me but with 16 years of XBL tenure, mine is 8. I will not do things twice. There is no way I will do 750 voyages. If they don't change it, I won't get the achievement. Simple as that. So I ignored approx. 0 rules of achievement hunting. Also, you seem to deliberately ignore the fact that nobody has unlocked these achievements, while trying to explain what I did wrong. I did nothing wrong, what I did, was deliberate. These achievements are not balanced and the completion percentages have proven it. We have nearly the same stats in SoT, with no real difference and yet you are nowhere near completing these achievements, so I don't get what I did wrong. Anyway, the point is that these achievements require a ridiculous amount of grinding and are in no way fair or acceptable by some players. Others disagree, well, not everyone is right at all times.

A "low percentage" is different from 0% and "A LOT" of time is different from infinite.

Finally, I indeed maximized achievement output for time invested, as it took me less than 20 minutes to purchase the required voyages and unlock the achievements. I never said I am a completionist, I said achievement hunter.

I ignored nothing, you did though as quite a few people have unlocked said achievements and even completed the whole base set of achievements - just pop over to True Achievements and you will see this is true. It is not 0%, it is .01% - something you said in the OP but now changing to suit your own argument.

I stand by my statement that you did not go about this in an efficient manner, especially if you are complaining about said achievements. My tenure as a Live member is somewhat irrelevant given that the OG Xbox years had no achievements which is included within that tenure - not to mention being done by an old man with a full time job and running my own business on the side (as well as an old lady who needs attention every now and again). The difference between your approach and mine is that shortly after I get my achievements for purchasing the 250 voyages I will be in range of getting the one for completing 250 voyages (not to mention the miles I would have logged along the way for the other achievements) - the reason mine are lower is because the OoS and Merchant have not been my focus, but will be from here out as I am close to the finish line in Hoarders. Also I am not in any hurry to get through the game or reach Pirate Legend, actually enjoying the ride.

Look I was trying to give you tips on how you could have gone about getting the achievements in question more efficiently, some information you might use in the future. Several people have gotten this set of achievements as well as completed the whole base set of achievements (including the Banana crates) so stop with the misinformation that 0% have done so, this type of hyperbole doesn't help your case. They are rare, take a bit of a grind, but are in no way unacceptable nor take an "infinite" amount of time to achieve - just more than you are wiling to spend.

If you were only concerned about the easy, low lying fruit then your approach was OK - but stop trying to dumb down/nerf the game because YOU don't like to do a certain aspect of the game. But if you truly were concerned about getting the maximum achievements for the time invested, you totally missed the boat on that one.

@snikefriend Facts are facts, you ignoring them doesn't change that. You are changing the goalposts because you are shown to be wrong, the low percentage is NOT "technically" zero and the completion percentage for that OoS completion at TA is .1% (the one you are "technically" calling 0%).

Take my advice or not, I don't really care. I was just trying to give a fellow achievement hunter some useful advice they might use in the future to avoid situations like this again. Since you've taken a combative attitude towards that, I'll give you some final advice regarding these achievements - man up or shut up as these are in no way ridiculous to achieve, they just take some time, commitment and planning (the step you forgot to take by going for the low lying fruit instead - those achievements could have been "bought" at any time).

I think this is more a case of you not wanting to do them instead of them actually being too hard or grindy as they are neither. Some of us want the achievements to actually mean something and not be dumbed down so anyone can get them in a short time - this isn't the Avatar game.

@snikefriend And True Achievements only list percentages to the tenth percentile and is rounded (whereas Microsoft lists them to the hundredth percentile - .01%), so no it is NOT zero as people have completed ALL the base achievements for the game. Don't try to manipulate/twist the data to suit your argument (especially with someone with extensive mathematics and statistics training in college) and I am not sure why you are being such a pain about this either. Those are the facts which you are choosing to ignore or are oblivious to - your failure to comprehend or acknowledge them does not change that in the least.

And last time I checked something that "hardly anyone has unlocked" means it is (wait for it) a RARE ACHIEVEMENT by definition.

@snikefriend Just had a look at my medics. Side effects with 5% possibility are labeled as "common" while "rare" refers to below 0.1%.

Also I have an average completion rate of mentioned commendations of about 55% while not actively pursuing any of them. Surely true achievement hunters would have already gotten them.

It's not hard, try sinking 500 skellyships with the last update. (I diden't do it, i did it before) - Daaaaaaaaaaaamn soooooooooon

I'm not an achievement hunter and am slowly finishing these. my concern is that I got my commendation for 1000 gold hoarder miles a few weeks ago. I was at 97% for the achievement. took extra sailing and with tall tales I couldn't cheese mileage for it. oh well I only ha e a 108 more quests to complete gold hoarders. then I'll do souls. it should be faster

@snikefriend said in Some of the game's achievements seem tedious.:

@crimsonraziel said in Some of the game's achievements seem tedious.:

@snikefriend Just had a look at my medics. Side effects with 5% possibility are labeled as "common" while "rare" refers to below 0.1%.

Also I have an average completion rate of mentioned commendations of about 55% while not actively pursuing any of them. Surely true achievement hunters would have already gotten them.

True Achievement Hunters are on TrueAchievements and they haven't gotten them. If you have better source or statistics for Achievement Hunters, provide them here.

There you go again, spreading FALSE information as the base game achievements have been completed by several people on said site - your ignoring that FACT doesn't change that one bit.

Gold Voyager - completed by 118 gamers (.1% of members) there
Merchant Voyager - completed by 115 gamers (.1% of members) there
Voyager of Lost Souls - completed by 94 gamers (.1% of members) there

12 people on that site have completed EVERY achievement in the base game - .01% (the only time TA doesn't round to the tenth percentile in statistics).