Either Console speed and accuracy needs increased, or PC needs slowed down and reduced. My husband and I play together on Xbox and we can tell the difference between us fighting other console players and PC players because we don't pose any challenge to the latter.
Console Disadvantage
You are asking for an increase in accuracy. Think about that. You are literally asking game developers to change YOUR neurosystem and YOUR hand-eye coordination. That you lose encounters to players is testimony to your lack of relative skill, not your lack of PC. You say every time you go against a PC player you don't stand a chance. Let me ask, how do you even know they are playing on PC? Have you asked every player who beats you what they play on? Or do you simply assume they are PC players that must have some astronomical advantage in order to be better than you?
My friend and I encountered 2 players on a sloop yesterday - 1 of them 1-shot my friend with a flintlock pistol while he was at full health and when I kegged the lower deck of their sloop in retaliation while they were both repairing, neither died (unlike me), despite standing right next to the keg when it blew - nor did their boat actually sink. So, yeah, PC has the upper hand IMO...
@kzoo-kid said in Console Disadvantage:
You are asking for an increase in accuracy. Think about that. You are literally asking game developers to change YOUR neurosystem and YOUR hand-eye coordination. That you lose encounters to players is testimony to your lack of relative skill, not your lack of PC. You say every time you go against a PC player you don't stand a chance. Let me ask, how do you even know they are playing on PC? Have you asked every player who beats you what they play on? Or do you simply assume they are PC players that must have some astronomical advantage in order to be better than you?
Actually, when we were doing the Thrones and teamed up with other crews, we discussed the speed with the other crew because one of them was on PC. He then proceeded to show off the turn speed by running back and forth on the upper deck of the sloop. I'm not asking for ME, I'm saying for ALL console players.
It’s pretty easy to tell the difference and the advantage of pc they can turn on a dime via their mouse and we cannot because our thumb sticks are less sensitive (for good reason we would have no control) we turn much slower, I’m not one for separating the consoles (because my primary first mate aka my brother is on pc and that’s why we love this game is because it’s one we can play together without having to go out and get a co console or a new pc) but I think rare should look at this and figure something out because yes pc has a much better advantage when it comes to movement, my brother can kill me so much easier than I can him and visa versa when I’m using his pc (we buy sloops and sail together that way we can fight each other when we’re bored lol)
@m1sterpunch said in Console Disadvantage:
Console needs increased sensitivity. Not accuracy, that would be silly. I heard there's somewhat of an aim assist on console already but I can't confirm as I play on PC.
I've played quite a bit and have NEVER come across someone I thought was hacking or cheating.
Okay yeah, sensitivity is a better word!
@catqeen1234 there's a huge difference between turn speed and accuracy. There is no disputing the fact that PC players can turn faster than xbox players. I CAN dispute the fact that this turn speed advantage unbalances PVP between console and PC. It doesn't. I play with a controller and the ONLY time I feel disadvantaged is when I'm dropping treasure off the ship onto the dock and I have to turn 180 back and forth. This disadvantage is of course laughable and negligible.
When you lose in the future try thinking "what could I have done differently to better affect the outcome of that fight" rather than "how could I possibly lose? They must be cheating or have an advantage over me."
@kzoo-kid But if you read the other comments in this thread, I'm not the only one who's noticed the disparity. I'm glad you haven't. And of course we have made bad decisions when it comes to fights. Just last night we ended up sunk and it was our fault. But it's not because we were up against PC players that could practically one-shot us, it was bad planning and gunpowder barrels.
@catqeen1234
Yes, I know a lot of people complain about PC-xbox disparity. I think all of these people have difficulty facing reality and their own flaws. Most of them are emotionally unstable children, which you do not come off as.Here's a solution for you:
Next time you play, go into settings. Turn all of your sensitivity settings all the way to 10. Do you think it would be easier for you to play this way? Does this give you an advantage over every other console player? Or perhaps the trade-off for additional turn speed is actually less accuracy
@galactic-geek this story only serves to highlight your lack of understanding of the game. It does nothing to prove they were cheating or that they beat you because they were on PC.
@kzoo-kid It's definitely not. As I said, I've watched gameplay videos. The accuracy is astronomical as they have the mouse. Console is harder to aim using two sticks instead of the one mouse. But if you don't agree, just move on. Others have noticed the disadvantages. I don't need your agreement.
@catqeen1234 watching gameplay videos proves nothing. If you are watching someone fight successfully, it's because they are good. You are attributing their ability to aim and shoot to the fact that they have a mouse, rather than their ability to aim and shoot. If someone is good, they make it look easy to perform well. Just because it looks easy doesn't mean it is. And just because I disagree doesn't mean I don't get a voice.
@catqeen1234 you can adjust sensitivity but i do agree i dont know how i have been one shotted or sniper/blunder 1-2 punched to death but even then i wouldnt want it seperated i would want the ability to 2 shot combo removed if possible
@ajm123 I agree with you; I think there should be a small delay which makes it impossible to shoot-swap-shoot (for cross-platform balance). While this advantage is certainly not exlusive to PC users, it is certainly easier for a PC user to setup a button to perform these actions seamlessly.
With that said: 1) most people don't do this.
2) there is counterplay which is essentially bait the action, dodge the shot, play agressive. 2 guns is a powerful combo but if you miss both shots at once you are extremely vulnerable to aggression.@kzoo-kid ah idk im against the separation but pretty much anyone i know on pc does that laughs when i bring it up usely i get the response "you mean this" ive seen one person on xbox maybe do it but it wasnt nearly as fast people on pc set up macros what ever that means to do it
@ajm123 I haven't seen it used much recently. Also, just because people don't really do it doesn't mean they cant do it. There was a period of time maybe a month or 2 ago where there was a lot of people using this technique. Compared to that time, in my mind, from my experiences, not very many people do it anymore.
Ya'know these issues come up more and more ten less and less then start all over again.
If a guy with literally NO HANDS can learn to adapt and overcome so that he may be the winner he is - by using a controller that he plays using his tongue and breath, I feel you can learn to take advantage of the game just as fully with the controller you choose to use, especially considering that KB+M can be used with a small peripheral cost and a tiny bit of research to assure you buy a useful peripheral.
@kzoo-kid do you play the game? I asked because its so easy to tell if a player is on PC that a small child can be shown how. Have you ever read one of these threads before? Do you really need the PC advantage in order to enjoy the game? Are you afraid to play a game that has a simple option of crossplay? You do realize when they give us the option you can still choose to play crossplay? Would you rather they nerf your mouse speed? Why are you so afraid of choices?
@blooddoll22 while I’m glad that guy can still have fun with games this has nothing to do with the objective facts that a mouse is faster than a controller and more precise. I agree that all we can do now is to adapt as overcome, but when there is no real reason for them not to make crossplay optional it’s still not a good reason.
That’s like saying that because some guy in a 3rd world country has become accustomed to starving everyday but still finds one meal and is happy about it that we should all just eat one meal.
I’m sure that guy is a better human being than myself but if you asked him if he would rather have his hands to play still he would be all for it, and since that’s impossible, I’m really happy that he has found a way to play still and thank god for the people who developed that control system for him and others. Them adding optional crossplay is completely different than that, as it is possible and should be easy for them to accomplish with little negative repercussions.
One of my favorite responses, I play on PC and I use a controller. Well how can I put this nicely? I realize that you don't play xbox or you would know that xbox controller speed is not even close to PC. I would ask you to play on an xbox for awhile or please don't try to explain how there's no advantage. If you have not played on console then really you have no room to talk. Just by reading comments I can see that most naysayers are not educated enough on the subject to have a valid argument.
@thecageddeath said in Console Disadvantage:
@m1sterpunch I can disconfirm that there is no aim assist on console whatsoever as I’m an Xbox user
I believe i heard there was one in the alpha but it was causing problems and was removed in later builds. I know there's still sticky camera moves on the controller while adjusting sails that needs to eff off.
@ajm123 what it means is, with the push of one key several actions happen almost instantly. On PC you can program a macro that will shoot with two guns faster than the animation can keep up. Effectively one shotting players.
@captgraykid Or an auto-load for the cannons. I've seen a galleon shooting crazy amounts of cannonballs in a shorter time frame than it takes to load it up after shooting.
Bunch of trash players in here obv. Claim their bad skill is because some guy they faced was on pc or even better yet claiming ur god like skills are because some noob was on xbox rofl. even if this was true. you only have maybe a 5% increase of possibility on pc based off of turn speed alone. after that its all how good you are. accuracy is everything children. if you die you got outplayed. simple as that. get over this whole crossplay issue. Get good.
@captgraykid said in Console Disadvantage:
@ajm123 what it means is, with the push of one key several actions happen almost instantly. On PC you can program a macro that will shoot with two guns faster than the animation can keep up. Effectively one shotting players.
yall realise that is bannable any macro key at all is bannable. as it is a 3rd party program running and pressing buttons for you. so you're complaining about something you should be reporting instead you want bans to happen? get reporting.
@vderickv no real way to report. As PC players don't show up in recent player list. So unless you record every encounter you probably won't get the correct name. Also, macro is not easily identified all the time. Best bet would be for Rare to find a counter. Or allow xbox users to opt out of crossplay. Then all the macro users can sail the same sea.
It would he nice to keep the topics in one place, this seems almost ide tial in both original topic and then replies to this thread, both from today:
https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/67425/xbox-vs-pc/15@Deckhands any chance of a link or merger of the two?
@captgraykid said in Console Disadvantage:
@vderickv no real way to report. As PC players don't show up in recent player list. So unless you record every encounter you probably won't get the correct name. Also, macro is not easily identified all the time. Best bet would be for Rare to find a counter. Or allow xbox users to opt out of crossplay. Then all the macro users can sail the same sea.
Yes you can report someone. can you not remember a name for 20 seconds for a report? lol... Opting out of crossplay honestly wont ever happen. Thats what this game has going for it and one of its biggest marketing points. also macro is easy to identify as most macro keys don't have random button press intervals. so it presses like 10 buttons in 1 ms or 10buttons in 2ms ext or a specific number per second and that is how its noticed. the buttons pressed as a human will have slight error not like macro where you press 1 button and 10 buttons follow w/ no delay in it.
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@vderickv I since some hostility. Go ahead and tell me how to see the name of the people on a crew that never appear on the screen smart guy. PC gamers don't appear in recent players either. And if on snipes or one shots you from behind there is not even a tag to say who killed you ( like most other $60 games. Talk to me bruh
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