Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?

@xDOUGHx @davejc64 Since Rare has already declared there is absolutely zero chance of it happening? No.

The games crux is not the PvP, it's the severe lack of content in the game. If you want a game that is quaintly sailing your ship unabated in the open sea, then you may want to look into Ship Simulator 2018. Because SoT is designed as a PvE/PvP blend at its core and to segregate that would diminish Rare's goal.

And I paid the full $80 price tag for this game. I won't be going anywhere.

@v4c-saucey

Fishing is something I see a lot of people asking for. It's also one of the top 5 suggestions on the poll I linked to.

So hopefully that will be implemented in the future. I'd love for an entire quest system based around catching fish across the seas. Even have a trading company called "The Anglers" where we could buy new rods and bait.

@xDOUGHx

I'm not being confrontational. Rare has made it perfectly clear that there will be no segregation of PvE and PvP.

The less we muck up the forums with people begging to have it added to avoid the "PvP morons" (and other colorful expletives people have come up with) the more we can focus on actually discussing suggestions for improving the game.

What's the point in beating a dead horse we know won't be coming back to life?

@davejc64 As I stated in my reply to the other guy:

@subaqueousreach said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

The less we muck up the forums with people begging to have it added to avoid the "PvP morons" (and other colorful expletives people have come up with) the more we can focus on actually discussing suggestions for improving the game.

@davejc64

Powerful constructive thought right there.

What would the benefit of having a PvE server even be? Where's the suspense coming from? Where's the danger? The risk? How are any of the fetch quests even remotely rewarding without any possibility of failing or losing anything?

It's not particularly difficult to go to an island and read a map or fight a handful of skeletons. At least not until another group of players shows up and decides they want what you have. At which point you have a real challenge on your hands.

Would you really, honestly be satisfied just doing the same mundane tasks over and over and over and over again for a hat? or a coat?

@davejc64

So if you're so indifferent to the outcome of the game, why are you even here?

@davejc64 You cheeky ****. You got me.

@lord-dyonsus said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

What i don't understand is how some people buy a game, knowing what it is, then decide it's too hard for them and asking for in effect a different game.

Do you like, think the Witcher 3 is an easy game because it's PvE only?

All I see is a PvP crowd spitting venom calling people who enjoy PvE crybabies, care bears, noobs and 'git gud'

People are asking for PvE and for a greater challenge in PvE, more AI enemies, harder AI, more bosses. They just don't want human griefing.

And when PvE players complain, the PvP community tell them git gud, you got the wrong game, you're a noob, go cry more, go elsewhere carebear.... and THEN after harassing them and belittling them they'll be like 'I don't see any toxicity in this community, this is a fun and fair community and PvP just happens to be in the game'

So pretty much, cyber bully anyone providing feedback on their request for PvE and THEN pretend you're the most chill community around. Pure toxicity.

My gripe is, I dislike games that blend PvE and PvP since all they turn into is toxic griefer fests. I like my PvE co-op and my PvP balanced and fair, with no grubby play involved.

Because you dont like solving riddles, therefore NO ONE else should right? Because you like calling someone the F word on chat and attacking their ship repeatedly while they do a skeleton fort, we all should??

This community is doomed. So hate filled and venomous. PvP crowd don't want a win/win situation, they just want to grief unsuspecting PvE players and run from PvP battles when they aren't heavily stacked in their favor.

Just like MMO's where the high level players spend all their time in the low level zone trolling newbies and telling them to 'git gud' cuz yeah a lvl 10 starter is really gonna 1v1 a lvl 80 toon and come out on top.

@pilks4k

I very much like the idea of NPC ships. While I'm not sure merchant or navy ships would work lore wise, I feel like ghost ships would be a perfect fit for night/storm events. But I'd gladly welcome any new kind of enemy variety/encounter.

I don't think a marker on the map would be an effective means of deterring PvP. It would more act as a beacon of "avoid these guys".

However I am very much on board with extending the respawn timer for players to roughly a minute. I feel like dying, even for myself, should feel like it has an impact. As it is now it's far too easy for players to just keep jumping back into the fight without recourse and doesn't give any breathing room for looting, escaping, or even sinking another ship. Battles can go on for way too long in this regard. I feel like extending the distance at which ships respawn would also improve this.

@pocket-fox-au

You're attributing the actions of about 5% of the total player base to half of the people playing the game.

I like PvP, but I definitely don't grief. My time is valuable. I don't want to waste it on endlessly killing someone who either has no chance of beating me or where there's no reward for my beating them (in this regard treasures).

A real, avid PvP player seeks challenge, not easy pickings. And believe it or not that's a majority of the PvP community in this game.

And the truth of the matter is; if you're constantly being killed out at sea, you very much do need to "git gud". It's not an insult in the slightest. You need to improve. Learn the mechanics of your ship better. Become a better sailor. If you want to avoid all PvP that's fine, you're given all the tools to do that. You just have to know how to use them properly and to your best advantage.

And you know what I did in WoW when I would be ganked or grave camped by high level players? I'd go into the chat and ask for an escort. I'd almost always get a response from someone. If you're having problems playing solo, there are entire sections of the forum dedicated to forming up crews and helping each other out. Shouting out a hello and waving or playing an instrument has prevented loads of ships from attacking me.

Let them whine. Its not the pirate way but you know.... Snowflakes.

@subaqueousreach said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

@pocket-fox-au

You're attributing the actions of about 5% of the total player base to half of the people playing the game.

I like PvP, but I definitely don't grief. My time is valuable. I don't want to waste it on endlessly killing someone who either has no chance of beating me or where there's no reward for my beating them (in this regard treasures).

A real, avid PvP player seeks challenge, not easy pickings. And believe it or not that's a majority of the PvP community in this game.

And the truth of the matter is; if you're constantly being killed out at sea, you very much do need to "git gud". It's not an insult in the slightest. You need to improve. Learn the mechanics of your ship better. Become a better sailor. If you want to avoid all PvP that's fine, you're given all the tools to do that. You just have to know how to use them properly and to your best advantage.

And you know what I did in WoW when I would be ganked or grave camped by high level players? I'd go into the chat and ask for an escort. I'd almost always get a response from someone. If you're having problems playing solo, there are entire sections of the forum dedicated to forming up crews and helping each other out. Shouting out a hello and waving or playing an instrument has prevented loads of ships from attacking me.

Amen to that!

@subaqueousreach Its an open forum :) You should be able to ask what you like :)

@mcdougle99

Where did I say that if you're not having fun then you suck? And what's wrong with telling someone they need to improve? So many PvE players say that the progression in this game is genuine progression, where you as a player improve in skill and I wholeheartedly agree. But suddenly because I happen to enjoy PvP that's a bad thing?

Not to mention you just showed me a $20 indie game that already has as much content as Sea of Thieves has available and that's at an $80 dollar price tag. Do you not realize how ironic that is?

But no, I very much enjoy Sea of Thieves and I want to see it succeed. Hence why I want to move away from pointless debates such as player segregation, since Rare stated it is never going to happen multiple times, and keep discussions on more constructive aspects with things we might actually be able to get into the game such as additional mechanics, improving current mechanics, new quest and enemy types, world events, etc...

@guybrysh Which is why I'm asking people nicely to stop bringing up dead topics =)

@mcdougle99 said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

sea of theives has a PvE part to its gameplay, hence how its different to Blackwake

You mean the 3 identical fetch quests? Go to A and collect B? I was talking more the ship and weapon variance, but sure, that riveting PvE content makes all the difference.

@mcdougle99 said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

But now I (people in this forum) are being told that you can only have fun if you "git gud"...

Literally no one is saying that. You're coming up with that all on your own and it's a gross assumption you have over the letters "PvP".

@mcdougle99 said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

I respect their time a helluva lot more than yours because they probably out saving lives at night with jobs like being a policeman or fireman etc.

This has literally nothing to do with anything. How do you know what I do for a living? I have, as a matter of fact, saved lives in my line of work. So let's try to keep things actually on topic and away from our personal lives. That's just unnecessary.

@mcdougle99 said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

Everyone has a right to enjoy a game and when those rights are being hindered by bad eggs do they not have the right to voice an opinion and try find a solution where everyone can be happy? Why does rare have to stick to its guns, why cant rare listen to people in their community and try come up with possible solutions.

Obviously everyone has the right to enjoy the game. But in that same respect, Rare has every right to hold to its guns. Why should they change the entire concept for their game design when an easier fix would simply be to add more to the game so that these issues of griefing boredom don't come up in the first place?

@mcdougle99 said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

Guess what asking for PvE servers may not result in actual PvE servers.

It absolutely won't. Again, Rare has stated again and again and again and again it will not happen. That is not their intent for the game. Hence why people should stop asking and venture into different avenues of thought, instead of bashing the same dead horse to a thin red paste.

@mcdougle99 said in Can we please stop asking for PvE only servers?:

or are they not allowed that? are they only allowed that if they quit their job and practise?

Again, this is all you in your own head. Imagining me as some horrible monster of a person because you don't like the letters "PvP". Why would anyone need to quit their job to play a video game? I work full time and constantly watch my neice in my off time and I still find time to play the game for a couple hours here and there.

The irony of all of this is just how inherently toxic you are yourself. I've been nothing but civil in all of my responses and you keep envisioning me as this evil monster of a person who only wants to see others fail simply because I enjoy the PvP aspect of this game. I also enjoy the PvE by the way and I desparately want to see that improved upon as well.

As I said, this is intended to move past a dead subject that will go nowhere and focus everyone onto discussions that will actually improve the game.