Dude, this is so lame, why bring back time limited items? I liked having rare things that newer players can’t get now. There was a time that I did not play for 2 years and I missed out on those limited time cosmetics and I’m cool with it. But is ot that hard to create new cosmetics that they have to make it so the things I have had are not special now.
I do t ever get in these forums, but I had to say something, this is just super lame.
Counter argument: ya know what's super lame? Time limited cosmetics.
Aside from date commemorative stuff, I'd much prefer that they just tie all cosmetics to commendations. There's hundreds upon hundreds of commendations - including old ones - that have zero cosmetics or rewards tied to them outside of a checkbox.
Unfortunately, they found a unique way to fomo content that was already fomo. Round of applause, Rare 🙄
@thamb0 You realize that gatekeeping encompasses all forms of restricting access, which means comms are also gatekeeping.
@d3adst1ck said in Bringing back old time limited cosmetics:
@thamb0 You realize that gatekeeping encompasses all forms of restricting access, which means comms are also gatekeeping.
You always have something to say, it's actually crazy.
Instead of arguing about semantics and trying your best to be antagonistic, you could just use common sense and understand the difference between someone advocating locking pixels behind time limited events and never bringing them back and someone saying to just put all cosmetics behind commendations, so they're always obtainable, but not just given as freebies.
@thamb0 I'd be fine with that if they were willing to fix a bunch of commendations that are basically unobtainable, which creates essentially the same problem if you start putting cosmetics behind them.
The end result is the same thing, so it's weird that you want to make a blanket statement that gatekeeping is bad, and then suggest gatekeeping as a solution. Some things are just going to end up being unobtainable, whether it's a login bonus, a commendation, a twitch drop or a promotional tie in.
@d3adst1ck said in Bringing back old time limited cosmetics:
@thamb0 I'd be fine with that if they were willing to fix a bunch of commendations that are basically unobtainable, which creates essentially the same problem if you start putting cosmetics behind them.
Without saying shrouded ghost .... Which commendations are "basically unobtainable" that don't already have some kind of reward tied to them today?
The end result is the same thing, so it's weird that you want to make a blanket statement that gatekeeping is bad, and then suggest gatekeeping as a solution. Some things are just going to end up being unobtainable, whether it's a login bonus, a commendation, a twitch drop or a promotional tie in.
Surely you can see that there's a huge difference between locking cosmetics in time, and locking cosmetics behind a commendation - even if it is challenging - that can be completed anytime with the right amount of effort/luck/cooperation/etc.
@sweetsandman a lot of the recent reaper ones are pretty bad, including Reaper Rivals because no one does that content anymore. Stealing commodity crates is another one for the same reason. I imagine that the 3 or 4 tomes collecting ones aren't great, and anything that requires another crew to help you do something specific that isn't going to happen unless you cheese it (eg. Horn of Winds and knocking players off a tightrope). Even the Weekender continued to do stuff like that for the challenges.
That is a common Rare problem though; pushing out features and then letting them die so they become obnoxiously frustrating if you try to do them beyond the release window. They need to refresh content and be willing to adjust bad commendations but they don't seem to be open to doing so.
If the Weekender and recent ignored feedback regarding commendations is anything to go on, they're just going to continue on the same track which makes tying more cosmetics to them a lateral move at best if accessibility of cosmetics is the issue.
Reaper Rivals is about the only one that is a bit of a stretch anymore especially since it has the prerequisite of having the Skeleton Curse equipped. That should have been a one and done commendation...not FIFTEEN. I actually saw a Skull of the Banished map marker while playing yesterday and had to do a double take
Commodities I still see frequently enough in my adventures. It'd be more challenging today, but not impossible.
Ones where you're required to have another crew involved were largely cheesed even during peak engagement of the content. I know I cheesed most of them...but it's almost always as simple as communicating. Sure, sometimes crews are going to run away or not be interested in helping, but eventually you'll get a chill crew to help.
I didn't say they were all going to be as simple to get as reading a Glitterbeard book in the tavern of an outpost. Some are going to be more challenging. But, still being obtainable is the key.
A quick scroll through even just the Adventures at Sea section of the Wiki and there are hundreds of commendations with either no reward at all, only a doubloon reward (are those flipped to gold now?), or maybe only have a title. Expand that to all the faction sections and you've got way more no or low reward commendations than you've got cosmetics to tie to them.
Even the most challenging commendations would see a boost in activity if there was some long gone cosmetic tied to it.
Unfortunately, it's all a pointless discussion because they're just putting all those cosmetics into Duke's shop over time and doubling down on FOMO 🫠
@sweetsandman said in Bringing back old time limited cosmetics:
Ones where you're required to have another crew involved were largely cheesed even during peak engagement of the content. I know I cheesed most of them...but it's almost always as simple as communicating. Sure, sometimes crews are going to run away or not be interested in helping, but eventually you'll get a chill crew to help.
They should just remove those commendations, because they are are not being used as intended. The people cheesing them are probably hurting the game more than helping, because Rare looks at their metrics and sees people completing them so they must be OK.
Are they going to revisit any of this stuff, though? Probably not. Their reluctance to adjust any of the Reaper ones or adjust the Weekender after a number of complaints just tells me they are never going to go back and fix old things or rework ideas that aren't working or don't fit in the current iteration of the game.
@sweetsandman sagte in Bringing back old time limited cosmetics:
[…] I'd much prefer that they just tie all cosmetics to commendations. There's hundreds upon hundreds of commendations - including old ones - that have zero cosmetics or rewards tied to them outside of a checkbox.
I agree. That’s what they should have done right from the start. But that’s not what they did. Instead they told people that year one cosmetics will stay unique (as a token of appreciation for playing the game despite of it’s massive lack of content and it‘s problems).
So yeah, the OP is absolutely right. It‘s super lame and a slap in the face of every veteran player.
In response I for one will never again spend any money on their precious Pirate Emporium. I‘m fully aware, that this won’t make any change at all. And I don’t expect Rare or anyone else to care about this decision. But to me, it really was kind of a big deal. Despite the insane prices, I used to buy any cosmetic on the Emporium although, in general, I didn’t even like the looks of them. Here’s why:
a) I do earn a lot of money and spending it on 🐂💩 - even the more expensive kind - really doesn’t hurt me at all
b) SoT used to be my favourite game and I wanted to support it‘s development
While I still earn a lot of money, my interest for the game is mostly gone (for multiple reasons, re-releasing former unique items is just one of many issues). At this point I‘m not even sure if my remaining bit of interest will survive season 20.
