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But I can see people finding some flaw in it and using it for their own advantage like every other weapon. Plus there'd be so much chaos with them it'd be harder not to die in a fight with something like that

@jonaldinho why not both?

@chronodusk said in Grenades:

@norloc said in Grenades:

Every game has them, why not sea of thieves.

Ugh. I hate this rationale so much. It really doesn't validate any suggestion for this game. Sea of Thieves is new and unique. It isn't like other games, nor should it try to be.

With that said, it seems pretty strange that there would be a weapon from the year 1914 in a Pirate video game... Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, like at all. Not even for fantasy/Disney Pirates.

that's fair, I wouldn't want this to be like all others either. however the suggestion wasn't without precedent, grenades existed during this era and were commonly used. not potatoe mashers and modern looking, think more wiley coyotes acme bombs lol, for lack of a better way to look at them. but they are era accurate.

@nwo-azcrack They'll make another comeback and we'll be "In style" again.😉

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Dang it i just got that song out of my head!!!!

@nwo-azcrack ahh, ofcourse lol. The sweet serenade of jackie moon. Why dont we all have a nice relaxing listen, at your own risk ofcourse

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It was from Semi Pro that basketball movie

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Sorry just seen that will farrel movie again the other day and u guys arguin reminded me of this.

@goedecke-michel i fully admit i did start it with you, but i still stand by my points, and there was no need to send a galactic lackey after me. Lol. Jk but honestly my sarcasm is born of frustration with a lot of things that are valid. Its like rare has some sort of team of accounts they use to try to quell the tide of ideas, rather than prioritizing what they feel they should make first, without having every other idea shot down. In 5 years god willing if the game is still going all these ideas will start to sound good when they run out of better ones, and still want to support the game.

Or was that not the plan?

Instead of lowering our expectations rare should work harder to meet them, on a realistic level of course, and from i see from any other game in the past 10 years, only parts of SoT are on that level. Some are pretty underwhelming.

And im not saying im not underwhelming in some ways lol, but i still support the game and want it to succeed, and im worried for the game and rare, not about trying to judge them specifically, I know they are good people. Just dont know where the wires are getting crossed dev wise and we should focus more on that than the semantics of discussion. My bad for taking us there but again, my points arent all wrong atleast. The game needs more and shooting down ideas dosnt help. Especially when you debunk content additions by using questionable aspects of the game like shooting out of cannons or boarding being the “ship combat” meta.

@a-cranky-eskimo well, the thread opener asked for feedback and I spoke my mind. No idea, why you start working on me, but these days this is kind of standard, isn't it? Do people only accept pro and no contra points anymore? O tempora, o mores.

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I guess your the only one who got the ninja turtle reference. 😪man i feel old

@chronodusk said in Grenades:

@norloc said in Grenades:

Every game has them, why not sea of thieves.

Ugh. I hate this rationale so much. It really doesn't validate any suggestion for this game. Sea of Thieves is new and unique. It isn't like other games, nor should it try to be.

With that said, it seems pretty strange that there would be a weapon from the year 1914 in a Pirate video game... Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, like at all. Not even for fantasy/Disney Pirates.

I did a google search yesterday about this and appaerntly its kinda unknown if they used them. Most historians think they did. Small glass ones with a fuse. Google it. Was kinda interesting. Not arguin or anything, just wanted to point that out because i was unsure myself if they fit in the game

If you eat them after they've been infused with gunpowder do you take damage or puke?

@rattlyfob said in Grenades:

@norloc alright so hear me ouy here... instead of finding them you craft them. You interact with a gun powder barrel while you have a coconut out and it fills up to 3 coconuts with gunpowder.

You can then throw them like a weapon and they explode dealing knockback and 1/4 health damage to people, and 1 damage to ships.

As they are coconuts they can be held in your food inventory so you either get to heal more or deal more damage to crews

@galactic-geek or they could you know, patch them, and the only reason i put holes in yours is because the nature of your argument was doing the same to the OP, but with no real points. But yeah we can agree to disagree before it gets locked, which im sure you care about at this point lol..

This has already gone too far and derailed the thread considerably. So tell you what - you stop responding to me, I'll stop responding to you, and we'll let others inject holes into both of our ideas and arguments instead.

@galactic-geek said in Grenades:

@a-cranky-eskimo You can't debunk something with an opinion, only with facts. I looked back on your post and the only counter to the smoke grenade issues was that you said they should socialize to avoid it... Really? Again, you're changing the narrative - the hypothetical scenario was that they get on board to begin with to use the smoke grenades, not that they might get on board. Your solution is not a solution to the grenades, but to the boarding - there's a big difference. I'm making the assumption (and always was) that they're already onboard with the smoke grenades - in that case your solution is null and void.

Stop rambling nonsense at me and telling me im wrong and what i meant, you cant realize the simple implication that there would be holes, and then say all this nonsense. Kindly stop bothering me, your “facts” are just as much opinion as mine. Just admit you took it the wrong way, and from now on give feedback based on the truth, instead of basing it off proving me wrong.

And i never said socializing was a way to avoid grenades, what are you even talking about. I said something about improved content aids better social interaction. Learn to read before trying to argue. I will say my posts are always poorly formatted but still concise enough you should be able to understand. My bad if you misunderstood but still dosnt make your posts useful to come to a solution or for rare. Thats my posts only goal until someone like you comes along.

Also you know what they say about assumptions, especially when you apparently feel you can make those but obvious implications go over your head.

And beyond that your assumption is as one track minded as the thought that raisable ladders will always be up.

And to the one valid point you just made, preserving the bad boarding meta in order to not add new weapons is just completely backwards when it comes to this game getting better. So my point stands and your assumptions and specific examples dont mean very much. Atleast from what i see and my opinion i based off what i see. Feel free to have a differing opinion, but i stand by everything i said on this post. Have a good one and feel free to continue to make counter points against this idea, but i wasnt trying to debunk your post for any other reason than its not the same way i feel. Wish people would take things impersonally like they tell me to, when i usually am not the person who takes it there first.

@a-cranky-eskimo said in Grenades:

@bugaboo-bill i would prefer smoke and ink and concussive grenades that need to be crafted from kraken ink you bucket up, or you can use a gp keg to make 2-5 concussive nades, or you can use crates of sugar and flour (if added) to make the smoke bombs or something. Using coconuts as mentioned above, giving them a 2nd purpose.

Start giving items and locations purpose like this now, and in a couple years the game will have many things to iterate and expand on.

More cc effects and generic curse magic being added is much less favorable to what i described above to most people i know atleast, which fleshes out merchanting, item purpose, which in turn makes item nodes make locations purposeful, AND we get the addition of the new weapon of grenades.

If everything was implemented with more thought to this, “less is more” would actually be true. Using all available assets and minimal new ones, to provide depth of gameplay possibility.

As is they act like their less is more, but its just less until they connect the dots.

@chronodusk fair enough, thanks for being normal and not argumentative then blaming me for it.

I still think my earlier post that i will rwquote is what this game needs across the board.

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I mean I suppose it might be more feasible if they were designed in a Sea of Thieves context like miniature gunpowder bombs with skull and crossbones on them, but it seems weird and too Call of Duty-like to me.

@chronodusk yeah we were all asking for modern made frags, your right. The mills bomb was surely the first, the brits are really the best, this game can attest to that.

@a-cranky-eskimo You can't debunk something with an opinion, only with facts. I looked back on your post and the only counter to the smoke grenade issues was that you said they should socialize to avoid it... Really? Again, you're changing the narrative - the hypothetical scenario was that they get on board to begin with to use the smoke grenades, not that they might get on board. Your solution is not a solution to the grenades, but to the boarding - there's a big difference. I'm making the assumption (and always was) that they're already onboard with the smoke grenades - in that case your solution is null and void.

@norloc said in Grenades:

Every game has them, why not sea of thieves.

Ugh. I hate this rationale so much. It really doesn't validate any suggestion for this game. Sea of Thieves is new and unique. It isn't like other games, nor should it try to be.

With that said, it seems pretty strange that there would be a weapon from the year 1914 in a Pirate video game... Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, like at all. Not even for fantasy/Disney Pirates.