Why must everything be repeated?

@japollo-93
You don't have to do anything :)

There are differences in the Tales, other islands to find the objects and/or enemies (objects / enemies are the same though).

@cpt-vunderbar They dont take 2 hours each, maybe #3, #8, #9 (depends on if you know what your doing), but some of the tales can be done easily in 45min

i kind of agree, here. three just seems like a much better number. you run the risk of burning people out on your game if you have them doing things they don't actually want to do, grinding for that sweet loot or reward. if you have an addictive loop, that's different. grinding to pirate legend was long and took work but i was free to do it in many different ways and I enjoyed the loop immensely. Yea, the tales change slightly, but they are basically the same thing and after three times, most people aren't really having the same kind of fun.

Lazy game design sums it up pretty well.

You don't have too replay them, that's the best thing.
No ones railroading you into doing anything.

The cursed rouge was my all time fave and happily played it 5 times in a row.
But you could complete the entire tale first then play them all again, or just your favourites, or whatever.

Why would you complain about a reward for replaying the mission?
Would you rather get nothing?

@dreadpirate9200 said in Why must everything be repeated?:

You don't have too replay them, that's the best thing.
No ones railroading you into doing anything.

The cursed rouge was my all time fave and happily played it 5 times in a row.
But you could complete the entire tale first then play them all again, or just your favourites, or whatever.

Why would you complain about a reward for replaying the mission?
Would you rather get nothing?

This, I happily played through Art of A Trickster 5 times over. Had a lot of fun with that one every time.

And seeing the Gold Hoarder rendered in the game gives me joy every time I see him. I've been waiting so long to see him. As such I thoroughly enjoyed my final playthroughs of Tale #9.

I think the only one that dragged on a bit for me was Legendary Storyteller, but that was just because it literally sends you to every region on the map except for the Devil's Roar. Fantastic story and meaning behind it, but the sailing was tiring after doing it 4 additional times.

Either way, I'm happy to have my Sailor of the Shores of Gold title and Gold curse. And I agree that achieving such things requires one to love the tales enough to replay them like that as another user said.

I have a full time job and other responsibilities and was able to get all Tall Tale commendations in 3 weeks, just saying.

@talriaen said in Why must everything be repeated?:

@cpt-vunderbar They dont take 2 hours each, maybe #3, #8, #9 (depends on if you know what your doing), but some of the tales can be done easily in 45min

The Fate of the Morningstar Tall Tale - 3rd,4th & 5th attempt ... 15 minutes each time, this tale is the exception of course :)

Honestly, three times seems like the optimal number. One for your first time, two for the journals, three for the speed run. The Tall Tales take too long with not enough variation to justify anything more. Many people say it is only for the dedicated but I doubt everyone who has worked for the curse would agree that it was an enjoyable experience. Honestly, this appears to be a recurring problem with this game. Rare attempts to artificially add more content by making things take longer rather than just be fun.

I was mad about this at first too, but I wanted the curse so bad that I just stuck out playing them all 5 times and it really wasn't that bad. It is totally worth it and 5 times is not bad for such an awesome thing.

@sweltering-nick perfectly said. I would be furious if they made it easier to get now. It is a unique thing only for people who truly want it. If they made it easy to get then everyone would have it

@nagthenaggy said in Why must everything be repeated?:

@sweltering-nick perfectly said. I would be furious if they made it easier to get now. It is a unique thing only for people who truly want it. If they made it easy to get then everyone would have it

Yeah a lot of us have already done 45 runs total (9 tales completed 5 times each)

It would be extremely unfair at this point for them to rebalance it to 3 runs each, reducing the total amount to 27 runs for people trying to earn it moving forward as opposed to the 45 runs the rest of us had to do.

Not only is a rebalance completely unnecessary, but it's also just too late for them to do something like that.

The missions arent the same each time, plus there's always the possibility of running into something different, finding something different along the way, playing with a different crewmate who has different skills than the last play through.

If you think it's the same slog each time, we clearly arent playing the same game.

@japollo-93 said in Why must everything be repeated?:

So I've just finished the tall tales, shores of gold was great.

But I just don't get why we have to do it 4 times more. For each mission.

For me it takes the enjoyment I had doing them the first time, and resent them.

If it wasn't hard and/or tedious the rewards wouldn't be worth it.

I think i agree, i don't like repeating the same quests that often, it could be optional, not a requirement which is different. And perhaps give a slightly larger amount every time you completed it that way it's worth the effort each time.

I have done them all 5 times.
think the ship looks really cool when you have all the ship cosmetic.

But for me, it was only Star thief(4) an wilde rose(5)
5 times of those, I didn't mind, cause they both have a lot of islands to visit to get all journals.

But think all of the tales have it's funny moment. an of cause I never think it was attended for you to do 5 in a row.
That we do to get the "reward" I can understand.

I still get goosebumps an epic felling when Im running out of the layer after the Shores of gold.
Think I have done the last one 7-9 times

I think we should repeat them 2 times but not 5.

@eva1977 said in Why must everything be repeated?:

I think i agree, i don't like repeating the same quests that often, it could be optional, not a requirement which is different. And perhaps give a slightly larger amount every time you completed it that way it's worth the effort each time.

It is optional. Who said it was a requirement?

@zormis tedious is not a term you want people to use when describing your game, which was my point. Rare should know better.

I agree, i liked the tall tales alot, but doing them over and over again to get that one curse is so faking boring. It made me quit the pursuit for that curse. Im going with the black-eye curse now. Fak that other shet.

@revanjstone said in Why must everything be repeated?:

@japollo-93 i still feel that they did this so people wouldn't mind doing tall tales again with other crewmates they pair with.

Or what about the complaints during Hungering Deep, after people killed the first Meggie. Some people found no reason to do them again.

I still have a lot of Tales to go (finished 3, total 9 times); I will appreciate the outfit or ship stuff in a month or three I'm guessing.

Ooooh a shipwreck ...

make that half a year :)

@chronodusk if you want the rewards (achievements) its not optional.

@eva1977

Well the rewards and commendations themselves are optional... If you want them then you should fulfill what the commendations ask. If you don't feel like doing that, nobody is telling you that must do it.

@chronodusk ok thank you for pointing out the obvious... which by the way the whole purpose of the initial post is to complain precisely about that.

@marsmayflower said in Why must everything be repeated?:

@zormis tedious is not a term you want people to use when describing your game, which was my point. Rare should know better.

*part of the game. You have to have something for the HC players to grind out. Some people want an I win button and get all the loot for just logging in. Others want something that most people won't have because it will be too hard or take too much effort to obtain.

I rather have this system than the loot drop luck system, like the cough shrouded ghost

• Do we need to do a Tall Tale 5 times before we can do the next one ?
• Do we need to do them all 5 times before the next update ?
• Are there not enough items to make your boat (or pirate) look good ?
• Will our sailing license be revoked if we don't do them ?

You can even do other quests while doing the Tales.

@zormis I am as hardcore a grinder that you can get but these tall tales, while fantastically designed and which I love, just dont fit well as content that you grind, in my opinion. Their lovely design should be cherished, not labored over.

Just my opinion and I understand others point of view. But for me, the uniqueness of this content is a little tarnished when you have to do them so many times in order to get unique items. I understand that it is a choice, but I want that stuff! So I will do them begrudgingly. But I dont feel the loop is quite right for grinding.

@marsmayflower Well said, that way the uniqueness of those tales is exactly that and not the typical grind that makes a tons of players run away from the game.

@marsmayflower said in Why must everything be repeated?:

@zormis I am as hardcore a grinder that you can get but these tall tales, while fantastically designed and which I love, just dont fit well as content that you grind, in my opinion. Their lovely design should be cherished, not labored over.

Just my opinion and I understand others point of view. But for me, the uniqueness of this content is a little tarnished when you have to do them so many times in order to get unique items. I understand that it is a choice, but I want that stuff! So I will do them begrudgingly. But I dont feel the loop is quite right for grinding.

That's cool, for me I am not really grinding them out, I am instead doing them with different friends. Sometimes I do them because my wife want's to fish and it gives me something to do while she fishes lol.

I have no issue with a grind.

Skull forts as an example of a grind that is enjoyable for me to do over and over.

Tall tales are a story mode, designed around the story and the adventure less than loot. So to have to repeat the same story over and over takes away the enjoyment in the story itself.

As well, im lucky enough to have a small group of friends who play, around 6 people. We aren't all online at the same time, and some of us have done all 45 trips and (me included) some haven't. As we're mates, we help each other out. But it means that the true number of tall tales done will be a lot higher than 45 once you've helped your friends.

3 would be enough.
1 to enjoy the first time play through
1 to enjoy the replay ability.
1 to earn a reward.

Then, when you do it another 3 times to help friends it feels a little less like a chore and more like the enjoyable adventure I personally feel it should be. Not a 'here we go again, same thing again'

I agree on the points I don't have to do it straight off. Personally, I'm Athena 10 with the large majority of commendations finished, and apart from fishing there isn't a lot for me to do in adventure to unlock.