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Next time use @Deckhands or the report function, they should notice the necro by that

Deckhands need to drop anchor on this necro.

I stopped at A5, not interested in grinding voyages.

They have added two more factions and Tall Tales since this OP.

Please dont increase remove.

Im PL10 and for me that was a goal. All commendations almost done. Now i can be a pirate without all the worry and hassle of voyage.

If they remove cap. We got to do it all again. And we allready did it 3 times.

1 grind for PL
2 grind again when PL
3 update now there is commendations for PL

4. U ask now. Remove cap and redo again.

I rather see new mechanics and content.

Just nu opinion

@cptproto I'd rather see other kinds of content or even a whole new pirate legend required gameplay.
I understand the game still needs more content for new players but at the moment beings a pirate legend doesn't unlock all that much.

@cptproto said in Remove/Increase level 10 Athena cap:

@cotu42 said

Though these level increases usually have a link to a new expansion, new content and a reason other than numbers.

Good point, but I personally think the recent update and addition of legendary commendations is good enough reason to increase the cap. As you said, it was disappointing choice to most A10 players and this is a big reason why increasing the level is needed now, while maybe this is not of a huge value to everyone, it will help distinguish and honour those who spent a lot of time in the game.

For me it was disappointing as the adjustments are not big enough to add levels, which is true and the correct choice. However I have already done the grind they reset and I expected them to reward me for it instead of asking me to redo the 200 hours of exactly the same without even a thank you or good job.

The reason the addition does not warrant a level increase in my opinion is due to it being there for new legends and represents the grind to become a level 10. Making the grind better for everyone that is starting their journey. Just upping the levels would be just there for the Athena 10s to hide the fact they reset our grind. Which is not a good reason to artificially increase it, as the additional 100 chests is not new nor exciting game play providing a big enough change to up the level.

@cotu42 said

Though these level increases usually have a link to a new expansion, new content and a reason other than numbers.

Good point, but I personally think the recent update and addition of legendary commendations is good enough reason to increase the cap. As you said, it was disappointing choice to most A10 players and this is a big reason why increasing the level is needed now, while maybe this is not of a huge value to everyone, it will help distinguish and honour those who spent a lot of time in the game.

I'm not against raising the level cap, but if they do, it has to have lots of content and goals behind it, and IMO, it shouldn't go over 100 - ever.

@cptproto
I totally agree with you . Sea of thieves from the start have a leveling system that everyone love it and was trying to achieve .
Adding more levels will make a lot of players happy and make the old sea of thieves players comeback and enjoy the new progress with new levels or new level system other than marchent or order of souls . Maybe even making new seystem level for legendary players .

Thanks cptproto for this idea and hope that RAR make it real and increase the level .

Thanks

@cptproto said in Remove/Increase level 10 Athena cap:

@leonewgate Sure, I agree with you we want more things to do, not more of the same things. But Rare have already decided to introduce commendations that require players, especially A10, to repeat the same thing if they wanted to unlock them.

Increasing the cap will make the experience more enjoyable, while we all wait for new content.

I have been very clear in subjects about the commendations for Athenas stating to PLs to start over that I am disappointed with that choice and see it as a devaluation and lack of recognition for the time we spent playing the game.

However, upping the level cap without any additional game play or reason other than upping the numbers is something I cannot get behind.

Yes, other games add levels at some point and without a doubt it will happen to us here. Though these level increases usually have a link to a new expansion, new content and a reason other than numbers.

End game players in all games know that they reached the end and they play because they enjoy it and Rare has been adding reasons to keep playing, especially in this last update. They even added numbers to grind, which for me was more frustrating than a welcomed addition but it seems right up your alley.

@katttruewalker great ideas, I would love for Rare to implement any of them and I can't wait to see what Rare has to offer.

However, increasing the cap, is the most easy and straight forward thing Rare can do to make A10 players experience towards the new commendations more enjoyable.

What I am asking for is simple, give people who reached the end game a"badge of honour" as you described it, or a little recognition for "running the marathon" a second time as @WeakDexx said.

This will encourage a lot of players to get back and engage with the community.

@weakdexx thank you ,just 30 i have 15 done and have 200miles or 250 around ,not really good balanced;).

@katttruewalker I agree Kat. These are fantastic ideas.

@personalc0ffee except that Progression has been part of the game since day one, even before release, Here is a video from the game design director Mike Chapman explaining how progression will work in the game

So to make this point clear, It's not me who designed the game with progression, the progression already exists. I'm simply asking Rare to make the progression more enjoyable for those who already finished it.

So no offence, but you are not the game designer. The game is for everyone, it is not for you, or for me to gatekeep it or dedicate how other players play the game.

P.S. I've been playing the game since early alpha even before skeletons and sharks roamed the SoT but this doesn't change anything does it?

@weedstar-deluxe

1000 miles
300 or 500 skelly ships
and 30 completed athena

this will unlock all 3 cosmetics

@cptproto

Increasing levels isn't the answer to giving A10 something to do, because what happens when we all max out at A50? We want more levels!

Far better to expand by perhaps adding things similar to the commendation/achievement systems - I'm sure Rare are able to come up with systems a lot more imaginative than just level progression.

We do know that they're working on quest content, this might well be an opportunity to add some type of progression?

I remember in the past community members have suggested 'collections', so perhaps collect one of every type of precious object, or naturalist collections, riddle collector?

We already have Mysterious books - there could be a stat for reading each one of these 'Master of Lore', plenty of alternatives. When digging up certain chests maybe you have a chance of finding a collector's piece, an old coin, a relic of some sort.

Maybe we level up our pets when they get here?

Maybe new trading companies come along and we need to get rep with them? What if you lost your current rep if the Gold hoarders left and were replaced with another Company and you had to start all over gaining Legend status?

We'll already have the Arena faction coming in the new year.

Levels are currently only a badge of honour, so really anything would do the job of providing a sense of progress - raising that Athena number probably isn't the most satisfying way of doing it and as others have said, the progression to A10 isn't really what the game is about.

Yes, but what he is saying is this game is not designed in the fashion of how you want it to be nor was it. This game used to have no level progression at all but that was a long time ago and sadly it got a progression system it never needed specifically to hook people such as yourself into it.

It does, because it falls into that trap of always having to raise the level, always having to balance the game around people for those levels. It's the never ending XP trap. Diablo 3 fell right into this trap with their Paragon system. PoE fell right into it with the Endless Dungeon generator maps.

At least with Paladins or Fortnite you have a reason for that grind, you unlock a cosmetic.

If they are going to raise the caps for Athena and the other companies, there needs to be a gameplay reason and reward for doing so not just to make people that want to watch a pointless bar go up.

@Bugaboo-Bill Frankly, i just skimmed over your replay and I don’t think I’ll have time to read all that. But it seems that the gist of your wall of text is that you are great Pirate who doesn’t care about progression. You also recommended some games that I might enjoy which is weird because I never asked for recommendations.

Look, you enjoy sandboxing, good for you, keep having fun and play the game the way you want and I’ll play the game the way I want.

That’s the thing I like about SoT it allows everyone to play the game the way they like it, and increasing the cap will not change that, nor it will force anyone to progress.

@cptproto sagte in Remove/Increase level 10 Athena cap:

@bugaboo-bill YES! more content is welcome, but untill we get there, we want more LEVELS!

It’s not like they are going to dedicate the whole team for this. I bet the mechanic is there, they just need to flip the switch.

CHEERS!

YOU want more levels :D
i don't !!!

i play since technical alpha and i'm no PL anyway ^^
Because i just didnt grind and play "ineffective" a lot of the time, i even don't buy any voyages and just do whatever comes across.
Message in a Bottle, Meg, Karen, Skalleone, Players friendly or hostile coop alliance or pvp.
I never "worked" on anything.
You ask for something to do, because imho you arent able to immerse and have fun with what we have but concentrate on progression what this game was never meant to be about.
You are an achiever/ progression gamer. Nothing wrong about that, most games are about exactly that: grind, achieve, progress, get better. SoT is not, sure it has this ladder to climb to PL and further to A10, but it grants you nothing but cosmetics. There is nothing gamechanging or special meaning to it. Therefore what you are aksing for is just a longer ladder, but nothing gamechanging what we all would profit from. On the other hand i will maybe never reach A20 or even A100, because i just dont have the time to play that much and more important i just approach the game very different, like i said more sandboxish and less progression oriented.
Why? Because i can :D
Seen the latest Atlas discussion in this forum?
Atlas is maybe the game for you. Work off tons of stuff to get to higher ranks, bigger ships etc.

I mean ask yourself, what do you want if they give you A50 after you have that worked off?
Complain about the repetetive fetch quests, quit and then come back and ask for A100 to do more repetetive fetch quests or do you want to enhance the quests and have more sandbox stuff to do?

I said it some weeks ago. Progressing is not playing a game. If you want to climb ladders, climb ladders and ask for a longer ladder, but then please dont complain if climbing ladders is boring. Instead ask for more stuff to do and forget about climbing ladders.
More interconections cooperative and competetive, more immersive stuff and more gamemechanics that lead to interesting, diverse gameplay or gameloop and not to longen the gameloop you already have worked off and get bored to.
Or not?

edit: and keep in mind it need to be mediocre or others exhaust on it or just don't even start the journey, because they feel its only designed for powergamers/ gamers who play 5+ hours every day and want to be effient all the time.

I dont want this, i quit many games because of this meritocracy approach. I want to play a game and not game a system or work things off.

@bugaboo-bill YES! more content is welcome, but untill we get there, we want more LEVELS!

It’s not like they are going to dedicate the whole team for this. I bet the mechanic is there, they just need to flip the switch.

CHEERS!

how much athene voyages i need to complete? for the i guess it was the capstan cosmetic.i dont get it why is cashing in legendary chests not tied to a cosmetic instead they gave seasmiles a cosmetic

@hulk-q8 said in Remove/Increase level 10 Athena cap:

@personalc0ffee
If you played the game from the start like we did you will see how much different it was to the players that was playing at that time.
After they maxed the level they just stopped playing .
Most of them will comeback when they add more levels .
Please think with reasons for other players and don’t just take what you think is best for you .

I've been here since Closed Beta.

@weakdexx Good on you mate, some other people would like to pirate and level yerrrr

NO!
better develop more sandbox elements

the Numbers are completely uninteresting, what would be interesting is more sandbox stuff like we recently got.

and what @PersonalC0ffee @WeakDexx and many others said who are already PL and A10.