@jbb02 said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@drunkpunk138 how many are playing battlefront right now? less than before they had to remove the microtrasanciones so that more people would come

I'm not sure how many people are playing right now, those aren't numbers I know how to find in the public (I can for the first BF, not the second though). Not that I'm denying that's true. Most games that have been out for this long lose the majority of their player count pretty quickly. Hell, most games lose the majority of their playerbase the first few months. If anything that's likely because it's a bad game, because it sold quite a bit regardless of that controversy.

@drunkpunk138 how many are playing battlefront right now? less than before they had to remove the microtransaction so that more people would come

@jbb02 said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

look battlerfront2, microtransaction kill battlefront 2

the game sold 9 million copies the first few months, if that is death then I am excited for the growth Sea of Thieves has to look forward to.

look battlerfront2, microtransaction kill battlefront 2

micro transactions will make death for Sea of Theives

@lobofh said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@dekeita dijo en Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@genuine-heather I've tried to explain to people the absurdity of the "not a full game" complaint a dozen times now to no avail. I don't think they're trolling. But I don't get it. The only thing I can figure is that they have an overly restricted idea of what a "finished" release of a game is suppose to be.

The game is a sea of missed opportunities, the graphic art is awesome, the music, the atmosphere, the sailing mechanics, the water physics, everything is great, but there are tons of other aspects that need to be improved: CQC combat, world events, structure of missions, fauna, NPC's, only 4 weapons and two ships.

It's hilarious that people said that Destiny 1 had not content when it had way more content than SoT by far, storytelling, tons of weapons, armour and items, progression, PvP, complex raids, etc, etc, etc.

It's not over, perhaps in some years SoT will earn its expensive price tag, actually is lackluster...microtransactions in this state are an insult.

We clearly have very different expectations. I can’t fathom how anybody who’s sailed in Sea of Thieves could consider it “lackluster.” I’m not saying there’s no room for improvement, but holy sea cow...

@dekeita dijo en Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@genuine-heather I've tried to explain to people the absurdity of the "not a full game" complaint a dozen times now to no avail. I don't think they're trolling. But I don't get it. The only thing I can figure is that they have an overly restricted idea of what a "finished" release of a game is suppose to be.

The game is a sea of missed opportunities, the graphic art is awesome, the music, the atmosphere, the sailing mechanics, the water physics, everything is great, but there are tons of other aspects that need to be improved: CQC combat, world events, structure of missions, fauna, NPC's, only 4 weapons and two ships.

It's hilarious that people said that Destiny 1 had not content when it had way more content than SoT by far, storytelling, tons of weapons, armour and items, progression, PvP, complex raids, etc, etc, etc.

It's not over, perhaps in some years SoT will earn its expensive price tag, actually is lackluster...microtransactions in this state are an insult.

@towheadedtrash9 said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@genuine-heather I'm pretty sure most of the founders were under the assumption that the beta was only 20% of the final game. They wouldn't have assumed that if it didn't feel unfinished. NEXT.

I'm pretty sure most founders were the ones advocating that Rare told us exactly what was going to be there at launch. When the game launched and it wasn't what people, mostly non-founders / original insiders, expected it to be, us founders jumped on to say that this was exactly what Rare told us we were going to get.

We then spend weeks being called a whole bunch of things for 'defending' the game. We were setting the record straight on the fact that people made their own expectations, which Rare, obviously, didn't deliver.

@genuine-heather I'm pretty sure most of the founders were under the assumption that the beta was only 20% of the final game. They wouldn't have assumed that if it didn't feel unfinished. NEXT.

@norloc They have already talked about most of your points. The stuff you can buy with money is going to be cosmetic only, which can be bought in a store similar to the LoL store. Cursed cannonballs are like normal resources but harder to find, you find them the same way. Doubloons is the event currency, there will be no ingame currency for real money

At the moment Rare is still raking in profits from sales, so for now they don't really need the money, besides they've got the backing from MS.

In my opinion the big Three (Nintendo Sony and Microsoft) should not include microtransactions of any sort in their first party games.
Their games sell consoles that's the extra revenue they're getting and it's a lot more then what Microtransactions would do for other companies.

Now Sea of Thieves is a bit of a different beast altogether. It's content structure is more akin to MMO's then an FPS or action adventure game. I feel kind of two sided on this because I want Rare to keep pumping out content for a long time and Microtransactions anable that without having to pay a monthly fee (Microtransactions are popular in Free to play games and Pay once MMORPG's because they enable a developer to keep on developing content for said game).

No I don’t think it will as long as it’s done right.
I think they will make a new shop at the outpost where you can buy the following.
Pets
Ship customisation
Clothing
Unique weapons
Character creation potion ( which lots of people want )

Only ideas but I think micro transactions like this would be the right way to go.

See you all on the high seas arrrr☠️

@genuine-heather I've tried to explain to people the absurdity of the "not a full game" complaint a dozen times now to no avail. I don't think they're trolling. But I don't get it. The only thing I can figure is that they have an overly restricted idea of what a "finished" release of a game is suppose to be.

@betsill said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@ant-heuser-kush Sea of thieves is a completely different beast though. Other games with cosmetic micro transactions are either free-to-play and/or they have mastery/progression systems that are the main focus of the game. In other games, cosmetics are just a supplement to the game-play(like monster hunter, LOL, etc.). In Sea of thieves cosmetics are EVERYTHING. Cosmetics are the only real reward that you get for doing anything in game. If your favorite cosmetic is something you can't get in game or you just pay for it, then it instantly devalues the already weak AF incentive you have to "progress" in this game.

This exactly.

@genuine-heather That's fine if you don't care what reviewers are saying, but "tone down the hyperbole a bit" and don't accuse people of trolling because they say something you don't like.

@betsill said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@genuine-heather Virtually every single big reviewer of this game, and a good portion of the people who play it are trolling..? lol Heck I would bet money that if you could get a Sea of thieves dev in a room alone, they would tell you themselves that the game was released unfinished...

I could not care less what the "big reviewers" say. I care about my experience in the game, which has been mostly positive. And I don't hear most critics of the game claim it's not a "full game." There are plenty of valid criticisms. You can make the argument that content is lacking. I disagree, but that's not an unreasonable criticism. When you claim it's not a "full game" however, that's not a reasonable complaint. It's a bit like your "pay to win" thread. I doubt you'll take advice from me, but if you want your comments to be taken seriously, all you'd have to do is tone down the hyperbole a bit. You can make a valid point without resorting to exaggeration.

No because im sure it will only be for cosmetics not in the game. People willing to pay a few bucks will just have a more unique look selection available. Im looking forward to it although I like my black dog set.

@genuine-heather Virtually every single big reviewer of this game, and a good portion of the people who play it are trolling..? lol Heck I would bet money that if you could get a Sea of thieves dev in a room alone, they would tell you themselves that the game was released unfinished...

@betsill said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

@ve111a [Mod Edit - Trolling/Baiting/Inciting Unrest In Community] Virtually every review tears this game apart for how little content it has. The games you are talking about that charge full price and then charge for dlc are games that give you a FULL game when they charge the full price. There are plenty of games that give you a full game and then give you free dlc(monster hunter, witch 3, etc.).

Oh good grief. Anybody who claims Sea of Thieves isn't a "full game" upon purchase is clearly trolling. Sea of Thieves is a very unique creature in the game world. I didn't join the game because of promises of any future "DLC" or overflowing "content". I joined because it's an incredibly immersive, beautiful, enjoyable game in its own right. Everything they're doing to add to and improve the game is just icing. I'm not a big gamer, but the first time I saw this game I knew I had to play it. I've never felt disappointed, or thought it wasn't a "full game." I find such a notion absurd.

Nothing has stats, so probably not. Then again nothing in the game has stats, so probably.

Micro-transactions = content

Problem solved whooorrraaay

@ve111a

that's a great point

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@ant-heuser-kush said in Will micro transactions kill Sea of Theives?:

You're confusing manpower with your happiness. The more devs = more fun for you. I don't agree with that. Sorry.

Say "sorry" for strawmaning me again, because I DON'T think more devs=more fun(inherently)... More work and resources = higher price. That's my point...