I have an XBOX One S, so I'd like a separate server from the X people too pls.

@imoutofnames1 said in Let the hate begin. PC and Xbox players need dedicated servers.:

Did you know, when doing gold hoarders missions the game knows if you're on PC or xbox. If you're on xbox you have to dig up the chests but on PC they are magnetized to your ship so you can sit at outposts and turn in chests for literally millions of gold per hour.

WHAT?!?!?

Dang it! I've been doing it wrong since launch!!!

@captain-greyjoy take a look on YouTube. There are a lot of videos on the subject. Here are a couple to take a glance at. Do your research though. Some do an internal drive swap, while others are runningan external SSD via the USB 3.0 input, suggesting that it's actually faster then the internal connection. (Plus you don't void any warranty by opening the xbox)

How to Speed Up Xbox Series X, S, One Games with an SSD!

Speed test:

Xbox One X Internal HDD Vs. Internal SSD Speed Test

The spawn times from the ferry are the same, I have tested it many times when one of my xbox friends has been on the ferry with me. The only time PC's load quicker is when first loading into the game. That is not an advantage as I usually end up empting all the barrels on the island before my xbox friends load in.

Also, the intial load time is not Rare's fault. Most PC owners have at least a 7200rpm HDD from which they load games, many had SSD's. The internal xbox hdd is only a 5400rpm as it saves on production costs and is quieter than a 7200rpm. If you want to improve load times on a xbox, simply get an external USB 3 SDD/HDD and install the game on that.

At the end of the day, Rare cannot be held responsible for peoples hardware and with recent patches they have perfectly balanced the spawn times from the ferry.

To the OP, please try the game on PC before you make bogus statements. If you think PC owners do not get stuck on black screens for a while after walking through the door on the ferry, you are mistaken.

@sloompie

This topic is always on the go and until it gets proper attention/response from Rare or MS, it deserves separate threads.

However, the majority of people asking this question actually mean optional crossplay. And if introduced, you'd still get the game you paid for.

@Sshteeve
They are yet to say they will 100% not include optional crossplay.

@oheck can you elaborate on this. I would love to make my load times quicker, I load slower than MOST other players I play with

@skulliah said in Let the hate begin. PC and Xbox players need dedicated servers.:

I think there are many things to consider: how many players are around your ship at that moment, your internet connection, where your ship is (a fort with a lot of skeletons or on a little island). Perhaps if you die far away of your ship.

Sometimes my xbox load in less than 30 seconds, sometimes it takes more time.

They already improved the loading time once which has been a really nice improvement. They do the best they can for both platforms to be at the same level.

I've noticed this. If you're solo slooping with no other ships in sight doing a OoS voyage at a small island then you return from the Ferry almost instantly. If you're at a fort in a multi ship battle the load in is quite long.

Which all means there are a whole lot of variables at work so comparisons are almost impossible to do. At best a PC & Xbox player could drown together and see who gets back to the ship first, but doing this is the middle of a battle isn't going to impress the rest of your crew.

Personally I think that we should all be held on the Ferry for longer (this is your punishment for being careless with your life) and the preparation/loading for your respawning should happen here. There shouldn't be a variable loading screen between the ferry and getting back to your ship. But then I know nothing about what's going on under the hood!

The people I play with are on Xbox and I'm on PC, and I won't be getting an Xbox. I'm glad rare is smart enough to not listen to requests like this op because if they did, they would lose me as a customer instantly.

@murkedymurk said in Let the hate begin. PC and Xbox players need dedicated servers.:

Aside from the ability to hack and mod, and the advantage of using a mouse, there is one thing that people don’t talk about. Loading times. Why does it matter? Ship vs ship combat. PC players load in so much faster. How much faster you ask? I don’t have numbers, buts its probably worse than you imagine. When it takes you one minute to come back and a pc player 30 seconds, you think that isn’t an advantage in saving a sinking ship, or that much more time to get to the enemies spawn points and wait.?!?,!

HUGE problem that is completely ignored.

You CAN upgrade your Xbox hard drive.

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I don’t have numbers

And you want that we take you seriously.

Get them, dude, get them, make a basic research to open a serious discussion about the issue. It's the same when people like you comes and whine about a PC player that killed you, so s/he must be a hax00r, "how you dare to say someone can kill me in a fair fight, I am the terror of the seven seas!!!!"...dude, some of us are playing FPS games since Doom, we can aim.

This is a crossplay game, deal with it, a very casual one with a ridiculously low skill ceiling, if you were playing Overwatch competitive or Counter Strike on PC you would be crying, games where talented players can snipe you into oblivion in miliseconds.

People also do talk about loading times, almost all the time in every other cross play thread that has ever existed on these forums (must be in he thousands since launch given the number that we see every day).

How many times can Rare say cross play is here to stay as it was designed into the core of the game?

@mrgrim67686 said in Let the hate begin. PC and Xbox players need dedicated servers.:

@lefaux2 Nobody is assuming anything. My load times are much faster on XBox OneX than my friends with better internet on an OG XBOne. Period. I already emptied most of the barrels and put it on the ship before they load in. Many PCs outperform THAT.

Not that I care. I'm allergic to loading screens so I done got gud. A little positioning and gunpowder goes a long way.

The number one reason cited from DOZENS of people on my list for quitting was mandatory xplatform.

It doesn't bother me, but nearly 100 people on my friends list, from pregame to people I met in game quit for this very reason.

Sorry, but I couldn't resist. Enjoy!

@skulliah
The loading screens feel very random. Sometimes i can spawn back instantly, and other times i have to close the game because it just sits there on the black screen

I think there are many things to consider: how many players are around your ship at that moment, your internet connection, where your ship is (a fort with a lot of skeletons or on a little island). Perhaps if you die far away of your ship.

Sometimes my xbox load in less than 30 seconds, sometimes it takes more time.

They already improved the loading time once which has been a really nice improvement. They do the best they can for both platforms to be at the same level.

Since I hit Pirate Legend it takes me over an hour to load back in from the ferry because I can't stop spinning in circles.

Rare need to segregate the servers!

@khaleesibot thats cool and all, but do you all not moderate flooding topics like this? I mean seriously.

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I usually play with two other people (so we are 3 in total), all on PC, and we all have different loading times. The hate for PC players is real. But I agree about splitting the player base by harddrive, internet speed, monitor size, age, chair quality and controller/keyboard/mouse cable length (or distance to device for wireless).

@murkedymurk
Takes me 45 seconds to load in from death on xbox

@murkedymurk said in Let the hate begin. PC and Xbox players need dedicated servers.:

L**o the hate is real. It’s not even something that is debatable but the pc community as always is INSANE!! When you have xbox vs pc crews pvp’n in a close battle, the FACT is that pc’s load in faster (unless your pc is from the year 2000). When a pc player dies it consistently takes FAR less time to load back in. The advantage is CLEAR. PC player loads in, has time to pick his nose, takes his time getting back to the battle and the Xbox player is still in th ferry! It’s laugable that PC players can even act like this is not the truth!!! I have a pc sitting right here but, at this point I’m refusing to stoop the the level of needing an advantage to play. All the proof you need is being on a crew with pc player the difference is OBVIOUS.

Facts are facts folks. PC’s load In faster. All things being equal the pc crew will always have an advantage over Xbox crews. This is and has been the case with any cross platform games. Out of them all this game has the most hardcore pc deniers. It’s quite funny actually.

Translated: facts are facts and as i stated in the original post i don't have facts just stuff i made up to make myself feel better.

@murkedymurk It isn't so much as hate coming toward your OP, but rather people disputing your claim when you didn't back it up. After all, you did say that you didn't have the numbers to validate your claim, yet you made it anyways. That does not a strong point create. Instead it is all hearsay which isn't something you should base any claim on.

Now I don't think you should go on the full statistical analysis of a carefully controlled experiment, though that would be the ideal way to establish your claim, but you really should try to at least validate it in some way besides your handwaving.

And I think you are simplifying it a bit much by saying PC's arbitrarily perform better than Xbox for Sea of Thieves where loading times are concerned. As noted earlier, network traffic also plays a role in loading times. After all, the server needs to tell the client where they are in the game world. The loading time issue then becomes much more complex. Even if you account for an Xbox and PC both featuring SSD's over HDD's there could still be differences due to network cards (AFAIK not a lot of PC's use dedicated network cards since most are baked into the motherboard), your network gear (routers, access points, switches, and so on depending on your network topography), internet service (download/upload ratio), 'distance' to server (latency and packet loss rate), and your ISP (connectivity, network uptime). Network gear is independent of platform.

Lots of moving parts to consider. I don't think the answer is as clear as you make it out to be.

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Just a theory, but what if that pc player that just killed you never died. Like, you didn't kill them. But like, you're on the ferry and they're not on the ferry. Maybe they loaded in already before you even turned into a soul. That's fast. Yea they gotta fix that.