Pirate Legends & It's Uniqueness

  • Let's take a look at Pirate Legends and what it truly means. There are a few new features once becoming a Legend but there are some things I feel are lacking. I've been a Legend for about a week now and there are times where I get that feeling of "now what?" as I'm sure many others have. Don't get me wrong there are some pretty cool stuff that comes along with the status. Personally I never get tired of how cool it looks to open the hideout. But since there is a lot of room for improvement I am going to break down What You Get as a Legend, What it Means to Be One, and What Could Be Included. Now I am aware there are a number of updates coming to the game and I'm sure that Rare has already looked into ways to make Legends feel more unique. This is simply my observations and opinion on where the status is now and how it may be expanded upon.

    What You Get as a Legend

    • We Shall Sail Together
      A brand spanking new shanty, pretty catchy to if you ask me. It's used to open the Legends Hideout and...well that's mainly it. You get this cool new song but can't play it anywhere else. It would be nice if we were able to play it on the ship (you know, the place where we actually sail together) or even get more use out of it. Perhaps the shanty could unlock secret passages elsewhere or maybe keep the Chest of Sorrows from crying.

    • Time to Look the Part
      Once you claim the title you may also claim the outfit. I nicely colored purple with gold chains. I personally love the way the gloves look but not a huge fan of the coat as it looks to bulky on my pirate so I very rarely wear it. But unfortunately that's it. No shirt? jacket? maybe a Legend sword? Some of the other clothing options in the game look more unique than that of a Pirate Legend's. It would be cool if we were giving a little more to choose from.

    • A Ship Suited for a Legend
      Okay let's be honest here, how many of you actually use the Pirate Legend ship? or at least the hull? I like the look of the sails and the unicorn is awesome even though it's not practical at night. But the hull, the main part of the ship doesn't have the "Pirate Legend flare" I think it was supposed to. I see so many other Legends just use the Rogue Sea Dog hull. It's cheaper, purple, and has cool looking skulls on it. Then there are some that don't use the Legend decals at all. I believe once again, more choices or a redesign would give players more incentive to use the ship. I like to use the Imperial Sovereign Hull with my Legend sails.

    • The Voyage
      Last but not least you gain access to the Legendary Skeleton Voyages cough I mean Pirate. All jokes aside I actually don't have much of a problem with the Athena Voyages. They can be really fun with the right crew, it's a nice challenge, and you can get some good treasure from it. However, it would be nice if upon completion it counts as a completed voyage for the other trading companies. It's a little silly that some other commindations are counted except for that one. As for the Ghost clothes, you know the drill by now, more unique options for athena rep beyond the one clothing set but I'm sure that's coming.

    What it Means to Be One

    So now you're a Pirate Legend, time to start that Athena rep. But what about once you are done? or maybe you're not a fan of the voyages or ghost clothes, what do you do? I would see most other Legends just hunt other players and sink everyone they see. Some would just go around helping other players. Personally I don't attack players unless fired upon. Just because I can sink you doesn't mean I always should. So I spend a lot of time playing "Undercover Pirate Legend" or simply helping others. What it means to be a Pirate Legend right now lacks two major things in my opinion, variety and a unique look. Right now every Legend is given the same hand full of Legend items to choose from and I feel that although we're all Legends we should have enough chooses that would allow every Pirate Legend to be unique. If more players get to Legend status while things are still in this state it will be like what Sybdrome said in the Incredibles "When everyone's super...no one will be."

    What Could Be Included
    I won't touch on the things I've already said about having more choices. This will be a few things that currently aren't in the game that I think would be a welcome addition to being a Pirate Legend.

    • Welcome to the Club
      Cross Server Hideouts I think would be a very cool addition. You head over to Plunder Outpost, you play your shanty of Legends and walk into the light. After a minute long loading screen you enter a empty hideout full of ghost. What good is a cool new club with no members to interact with? Similar to my Pirate Hub suggestion in my first post (search my profile if you're interested in reading) having an area where just Pirate Legends could meet would be cool and make it feel more exclusive.

    • A Special Perk
      What can a Legend do that a regular pirate can't? Get Athena voyages? where purple? There isn't much that truly sets a Legend apart from others beyond experience. I think giving Pirate Legends some kind of perk that doesn't completely mess up the balance of the game would be a welcome addition. Maybe the ability quickly revive a crewmate as they're turning ghost?

    Well that's all I have for today me hearties. Please feel free to comment and reply your thoughts on this topic. Let's get the community and Rare talking and continue to sail Sea of Thieves into the ocean of greatness.

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  • Being a pirate legend in this game is what you would call "New Game +", you do the same activities you did before reaching that state, only harder. Now I don't mind NG+ in games but only if the game is fun enough to warrant a replay, and the grinding of the 50 levels of each faction isn't much fun, going through the motions again feels so wrong.

    Hopefully with new updates we get new legendary activities

  • @dcr-lt-kanada Pirate Legends get what they get. That's it. Allowing "legends" to revive fallen crewmates is catastrophically unbalancing.

  • I dunno. This is more reflective of my personal playstyle but I'm OK with Pirate Legend not being this grand in game thing...and I'm still grinding for it. I get why people want more it just doesn't really bother me personally.

    To be fair I'm doing a lot of laid back sketching/documenting of my journey so when I do get there I can have a cool written and illustrated thing to back up my legend...but even then that's all outside the game. I'm fine with my current cosmetics, I haven't messed with titles so I'm pretty sure I'm still just 'sailor', I stick to myself and go with the flow. Not much will change at Legend.

  • @pikavenger Well I did say in a way that won't mess up the balance of the game. That particular perk isn't the only possible one and when I thought of it I was thinking in a way where they come back with maybe a quarter of health and it can only be done once. If you have any other ideas I'd like to hear them.

  • @urihamrayne I can understand that, that's why I was making the variety argument. Because beyond the athena voyages there isn't much that makes obtaining Legend status truly unique. I know some are okay with where it is, which is fine and in the games current state is understandable. But moving forward I would like to see something other than "Okay you're a Legend! Here's a new outfit and just more of the same."

  • I know this wouldn't fix a lot of the 'problems' people have with the current pirate legend implementation and for all I know it will be this way down the road but...

    I would like to see the cosmetics in the Legend department flushed out. We(nonlegends) have outfits in general that fit all walks of life as it were. I would like to see more complex outfits for pirate legends. Go full on Pirates of the Caribbean Pirates court wardrobe. Jackets with trinkets/spyglasses/pocketwatch chains/etc and elaborate hats with feathers and frills and wigs and beads. Shirt/vest/jacket combos, fancy boots, maybe some face paint. Things that make you look flashy to show you are a legend. Make it so that Legend is more a status of how long you've been sailing versus how 'strong' you are as people seem to auto apply to it and have the clothes express this seasoned traveler look.

    I think a lot of the 'issues' could be fixed if they just put some general context in what Pirate Legend was supposed to mean. As long as people try to act like its a pvp title it will always fall short.

  • @john-hatter You make a lot of good points, those are some of the main points I was making.

  • I've been legend for a couple weeks now; if it's something you're "grinding" for, you're probably going to be disappointed. If it's just something nice you get while having fun playing this game and interacting with other pirates, it's pretty awesome!

    No complaints here.

  • @ahab-smollett I agree, I think that's where some would get disappointed. I never grinded hard to get to Legend but those that have may have been left wanting. I have no serious issues with "What a Legend is" my suggestions are more of a quality of life thing.

  • As has been stated, eventually pirate legends will become much more commonplace. I’m sure they will eventually dangle another carrot for those that want Athena level 50 or whatever, but then what comes next? I agree there should be more cosmetics to choose from, and Im sure that will be added at some point too. There isn't really anything about Pirate Legend that draws me right now, so the process I make towards it is really just a by product of playing and enjoying the game.

    My question is, why are we all striving to be the same thing and have only one pinnacle to reach anyways?

    I'd like to see some other goals to strive after.. here's a couple to start with.

    Special status or reward for maintaining something. There could be daily, weekly or monthly requirements. It would encourage keeping a streak going... if you see someone with a special jacket, you'd know they were dedicated to shark hunting for example.

    To make something truly sought after, it needs to remain limited. One way to do this is to have a special item appear on the server. It could be randomly spawned on a shipwreck or island, and once a player collects it, (lets say its a crown) they can wear it, carry it, or store it on their ship. It would make available some special cosmetics while they have it, and the item itself cannot be sold at any outpost, but perhaps for every in-game hour it stays in your possession, it gives you rep in some new category. Other pirates in the world could somehow be alerted to its discovery, and given a general idea of where it is on the map. Thus begins a game of keep-away.

  • I have been a Legend for about 4 days now. I'm about to hit level 7 athena now and I'm sure ill be at Level 10 by next week.

    I think they need to add a new rank for those that pass level 10 and give them some type of perk. I think a lot of people really just stopped grinding after becoming Pirate Legend so those that have stuck with the grind should be rewarded just my thought.

    I have been happy with whats available now but we need more for after Level 10

  • @dcr-lt-kanada My biggest gripe is no weapon skins at all. I love the legends outfit, and I love the ghost outfit. I just don't understand why there's no ghost cutlass that has a broken floating blade. Or any guns. The voyages are a lot of fun, but the skeletons are absolutely ridiculous. I don't want them to be easier to kill, I just don't want to feel like I'm playing the walking dead meets pirates. On average it feels like you fight about 5 skeletons per step that take 8 hits to kill with a sword, or 3 sword dashes. That time adds up quick. I'd say on average most voyages could be cut by 30+ minutes if skele spawns were just a little less. I've still been loving the game since hitting legend (I thought I'd get bored quick) but with a crew of friends Athena's voyages are great. I just hope we get some more stuff to work for soon as legends. The ship skin is pretty underwhelming for me shy of the figurehead. All I've got to look forward to in terms of progression is the ghost outfit and I already have half of it.

  • @blg-strong-dad A lot of good points. That type of sword would be neat.

  • Would a greater progression system pass 50 that introduces new concepts help some of these issues?

  • @dcr-lt-kanada definitely some good points. Hopefully Rare will do something to keep legends around longer.

  • @dcr-lt-kanada
    I'm not a pirate legend yet but if I don't have much to look forward to as a legend that's kinda lame:( so I'm hoping our ideas might change the pirate legend experience.

    Suggestions?
    How about pirate legends unlock more branding options for each pirate crew?
    So Pirate legends would be able to have a fleet (kinda like a gamerclan) that has a pirate legend as fleet Captain.
    They could have a customizable fleet name and cool description with a wanted poster of the Captain on stuff.

    Crew colors and custom flags for any players that join a Legend's Fleet. Maybe 0.1% of all crew chests go to the Captain.

    The Captain could have a crew chat where they moderate announcements and enter their crew into fleet only servers that run events.

    I feel this would help to enfame legends
    With alot of followers without harming the balance of play.
    Thanks!

  • @shreksanus yeah here's hoping it'll be expanded upon more.

  • Do you think we'll get some Pirate Legend updates at E3?

  • @dcr-lt-kanada I hope so, they said they were going to showcase some new features that were going to be added and do alot of interviews during e3 as well. So if anything is introduced for legends we'll definitely hear about it

  • It should be about getting specific quests that are interesting not grinding, find chests that are valued at triple of what a captains chest is worth and access to areas worthy of all the grind you went through not just the hidden tavern that has almost nothing.

  • @eva1977 I too which there was more done with the hideout.

  • Personally I have pretty much stopped playing since becoming a PL and have only done one Athena voyage. I logged in to do THD but I don't really have the drive to play at the moment. I'm hoping the summer update brings in something fun to do as the current Athena voyages are just a repeat of the lvl 50 grind just blended together in one big bore-fest.

  • @octopus-lime That seems to be a popular issue where all the Legends are leaving. There isn't a lot of replay value for some players and hopefully this is something that can be solved.

  • @shreksanus well nothing about Legends yet.

  • but but but....pirate legend is where the game starts according to Rare....SMH....

  • @dcr-lt-kanada rip true. Still the new content is still gonna be fun

  • @shreksanus they've heard a lot of feedback on the topic they said so I would assume we may get a few new things for it during the Cursed Sails.

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