@stew360 For example, if they make the way spread tighter but less pellets that would be great for both you and me, shooting from a range wouldn't be as horrible to how it is now and it would not one-shot and that all I ask for no one-shot

@sweltering-nick yea I have been hearing that a lot maybe it is just a me problem

but a one-shot in a form that is easy to achieve is not okay

but ill try to apply what you said

@genereder like I said anything could help but check out my reedited post that i put up right now.

@BrutalPandaX maybe I am Over estimating it but anything that oneshots in game will and has been abused

For example, if they make the way spread tighter but less pellets that would be great for both you and me, shooting from a range wouldn't be as horrible to how it is now and it would not one-shot and that all I ask for no one-shot

@ve111a if a gun hit in general it pushes other players off (it not exclusive to just the BB) but your Right, I could imagine how fighting skeleton can be more pesky with this update I should keep that I'm mind and reform my ideas next time

but currently bb requires no skill to use effectively in pvp because the movement has not restriction when using it making jumping that range barrier very simple (unless they just run away from you until you give an opening)

@stew360 Then whats the point of it having knockback? The fact that it has knockback suggests that it isn't intended to be an insta kill gun.

@epicblade101900 said in The Blunderbuss Is killing Swordplay. NERF IT:

The Blunderbuss is the best weapon in the game even after the 1.0.3 update it is still the best choice of weapon and it is to powerful with no restrictions on it and these are facts about the weapon and why it needs to be change and my opinion on How to Fix this.

• Fire power
  This weapon can one shot you(if all pellets connect)from full health and this is fun for those who abuse this ,but for those who doesn't want to be a common noob and jump on this train will be murdered.
  How to fix this
  Nerf it that the maximum amount of Damage is done is 70% of a persons health .
  Putting it on the same playing level with other guns(pistol:55% Eye of reach:85%)

• Reloading while jumping
  When you don't land all your pellets or not enough pellets the first thing anybody does is run away or better said Jump away to just reload and to shot another day with no restrictions doing so , making it that there no real punishment for missing that shot.
  How to fix this
  Make it that if you move to much when you reload you put away your gun or make it if you jump it cancels the reload. or hinder movement greatly when your reloading etc.

• Unlimited Shots
  Almost all fights in SoT happens when your boarding an enemy's ship or being boarded,so this means because all ships have an ammo crate available to everyone.
  When you have a box that gives you ammo after you run out immediately your never gonna have a problem with running out, making it that if you have a gun fight on the ship and run out of ammo you can just refill and keep on shooting.
  Which in itself is not a problem(although this kind of throws out the point of having 5 bullets on your person to limit you constantly shooting others if it just going to be on the ship for anyone to get as many time they want)
  The true problem lies in the Blunderbuss That can one shot other players,and you have 5 to shoot only to have it being constantly filled up back to 5 to shot again is over powered to say the least.
  How to Fix this
  There are many ways to go about this obviously some idea are better than other like:add a cool down after you yourself just got ammo(a 3 minute one)or move the location of the ammo like put it on the crow nest or just straight up remove the ammo crate from the ship completely.
  All of these sound bad but something has to be done.

Afterword
Before you type that I'm complaining,or
The Blunderbuss is not that op,or
Is very situational
consider the fact that the pvp in this game is going to take place in small quarter spaces (on and inside the ships) the Blunderbuss is the best possible choice by nature BUT if that BPC can one shot people and can give you the power to wipe the whole Squad and some,then that's to much,so much that using the sword isn't viable anymore (unless the situation demands that have to take out Cutlass to defend your self)

All I ask That if one or even some of my How to Fix this suggestion's are to be applied it'll make the Pvp a battle that takes skill and spit second choices and misdirection, compared to the current jump and shoot and run away until you can get a kill with the Blunderbuss Meta it sad how little skill it take to do that.

But leave a comment on what you think ,even if your just going to correct me, Please lets have a conversation.

1. Bring up your sword.
2. Never let go of the right click block function of your sword, trust me, this is going to improve your chances of winning in more than one way.
3. If too far away, hold any direction (W,A,S,D) and press jump to sidestep, making it extremely hard to hit you with guns.
4. When close enough, keep holding the block button, and attack once, the first attack whilst holding block, makes you move at normal run speed, allowing you to catch up the last distance.
5. If the first attack hits, finish the 3 slice combo, as you move around the target unpredictably.
6. Keep holding block, and if the last hit of the sword combo knocks your target away, remember the first attack of any sword combo, makes you move at normal run speed, allowing you to catch up easily, and finish that scallywag.
7. If you're feeling brave, keep holding block, and then hold power attack, you will be able to move at normal run speed AND able to jump whilst powering up your attack, if you land the power attack, 50% of the targets health is gone, so 2 of those, and you killed them.

Just knowing the sword controls is all you need to completely roflstomp gun-spammers, regardless of what gun they use. :P

The blunderbuss has already been nerfed, leave it alone, and just git gud instead! :)

@epicblade101900 When you're cornered it can be tough to deal with but I've found that literally just simply jumping and moving makes a huge majority of players either completely miss me with it or do so little damage they might as well have not wasted the shot lol. Goodluck to ya though, hope it works out for you as well as it does for me :)

@blg-strong-dad Maybe your right, that something thing that I should apply more often in combat

But sometime people just camp and chase you inside the ship where it isn't as spacious and that irritate me how I could be doing my combo on a guy and he just shoots me once and it over.

maybe they should make every shot a tighter spread and every pellet stronger but with less of them, just enough to not oneshot

@epicblade101900 reducing damage is not a good idea. It's a arisk vs reward weapon, If what you are suggesting passes then we have nothing to counter boarders climbing ladders. That's what I use the bluderbuss for is protecting my ladders. The blunderbuss after nerf has been reported to make pve combat more difficult as well and nerfing that further will just drag out forts even more.

@nebenkuh because even if they take off the exhaustion mechanic if you run into man with a blunderbuss the odds are against you either way.
I agree on what your saying BB is an equalizer, but is so good that everyone's using it that the part I'm getting at, there no variety because it is the best equalizer.

@nebenkuh said in The Blunderbuss Is killing Swordplay. NERF IT:

All your arguments fail to take into account that solo and duo crews do exist. A weapon that can 1shot at close range gives smaller crews a chance to defend against boarders from larger crews, as well as giving them a better chance when boarding larger crews.

but should solo/duo be forced to jump on the bb train just to have that chance to survive

I don't hate the bb actually I would wipe out entire crew with that thing with ease ,laughably so ,but as soon as I let go of it is a struggle of the century

@epicblade101900 Really? I find it incredibly easy to deal with. You know how you can jump in the game? Do that, a lot. 95% of players will hit you with maybe 3 pellets, to which you simply slap them with you sword and laugh. When I started I thought the sword was trash and blunder was the way to go. Boy was I wrong, I don't even equip it anymore. I've found the best way to pvp is to force close engages with your cutlass, maybe lead with a pistol shot, or sword dash into pistol shot (instant kill). All it comes down to vs a blunderbus is really good movement, once you master that the blunderbus is absolutely irrelevant especially after the nerf.

@mrbrocksego said in The Blunderbuss Is killing Swordplay. NERF IT:

Its own mechanics support a nerf. Whats the benefit of its knockback if it just kills most of the time? It should knock people off the boat, that should be its main use.
Oh so you want the blunderbuss to be a Foam cartrige guns and while its already been nerf to oblivion already ?

Peoples who are kill by more skilled players should stop to ask for insane unecessary nerfs ...

The blunderbuss if anything should get back its original damage , the pistol is fine the Noskills sword is fine as it is for less skilled players because of its ability to compleatly stunt player into a sitting duck position where they cant moove wich is a bad mechanics but yet help lesser skilled player to do the only thing they can do .. and the sniper is also fine and insanely powerfull ...

So yeah there is 4 weapons in this game and i cant grasp the complain about what kill you most of the time ... OF COURSE peoples will use a blunderbuss most of the time because most combat are insanely close range and skelleton are insanely resistant to shots ... if anything the blunderbuss require a buff not a nerf

AND ITS PURPOSE IS TO KILL PEOPLES not to punch them out of the boat ... its not suposed to be a air pression gun its a gun that kill peoples and it should be this way

@schwammlgott said in The Blunderbuss Is killing Swordplay. NERF IT:

@epicblade101900 2 ideas: 1.: no other crew can take ammo from your ship
2.: when jumping every reload animation should be interrupted/stopped (not my idea)

I agree completely! I despise the blunderbuss and though I don't mind the tool in game overall, I feel that it's one hit or even near one hit capacity really is overpowering. It turns pvp into less of a chess match and more into a % chance of who fires first once they've clipped into your body art.

Which is another thing that I've considered, shouldn't players 'block' other players. I get it, griefing doors and such would be stupid. But a simple 0.5 second delay in passing through a player would solve all concerns there.

Would love to see the blunderbuss find a niche as a "backstab" weapon - full (pre-nerf) damage from behind and nerf it a bit more for frontal shots. Can also keep higher damage for targets who are on ladders (so blunderbuss can still protect your ship effectively if you don't get surprised).

Made a thread with this last week.

@grandmythic7 WOW thats something ... the blunderbuss cant even kill at 4 feet and yet you think taking away amunition wich is a insanely low 5 amo would be a good idea ?

Its not because you are dying to more skilled players that it require to be nerf to oblivion ... this is getting silly

Its own mechanics support a nerf. Whats the benefit of its knockback if it just kills most of the time? It should knock people off the boat, that should be its main use.

@grandmythic7 This isn't how the game is designed. You can take another player's ship, fire its cannons. Its silly to say they shouldnt be able to take ammo. They can take your supplies. Ammo is a supply.

The blunderbuss post-nerf has gone from "a must have" to "mostly useful in its intended range".

Nerfing it further, you may as well take it out of the game. It is hardly overpowered in its current form, and actually gives the sword some edge in any battle occurring on a ship. I actually see the sword just as often as I do the blunderbuss now, and they seem equally effective when used in their proper range. Weapons that function well like this within their respective roles are fine as is.

@epicblade101900 If i could thumb down this post i would and i bet it would have 100000000 downvote ... blunderbuss is almost unusuable as it is ... you have to get your shotty at 2 inch away from someones face to kill it ... the " sword " play is the most obnoxious and no skills thing in this entire game when you sword someone they get stuck and cant moove for a while its a joke and its bad all the least skilled player use a sword in this game

the blunderbuss cannot be nerf more than it is , its almost unusable so just stop already

You think its bad now? It was already nerfed and not as good as it was before... I liked the way it was previously. If you bring a sword to a gunfight, thats your own fault..

IMO the sword kills swordplay.

The damage is so low, and the 3 swing cooldown really kills it for me.
Really I just use the sword to lunge travel/jump. More often than not, I just run double guns. Real piratey Rare.

@sir-rhavi I mention in the post "All of these sound bad but something has to be done." in that part.

And I understand that THE SWORD mechanics isn't good but how can we address them if most of the CQC is just Blunderbuss ,that and it just an Issue in my eyes.

If the damage from the eye of the reach is indeed 85%, it is a far stronger weapon than the current blunderbuss. There is no reason to nerf the blunder any further. If you actually land EVERY pellet, it should one hit kill.