i would love to see different weather effects also, customization for your pirate and ship I think is important (including the captains quarters). Generally if they keep on putting updates into the game and keep on improving on it I will be there to play it.

@lgdubdub

I'd love to see fog.

Fog so thick, a ship could hide in it or evade.

Would also create amazing island approaches as you'd need to cut sails and slowly approach with someone at the bow looking out for rocks/land.

@lgdubdub i dont know how i feel about 6 man ships in the game as it is but, during raids like the Kraken fight or something similar to that effect is a good idea.

@trustmeimly1ng said in Game additions that will keep you and I playing:

@a-cranky-eskimo said in Game additions that will keep you and I playing:

@trustmeimly1ng one joystick with one finger, compared to your whole arm and wrist with a mouse

Imo there's not much difference, you can do quick turns with a quick push to the side on the joystick, just as you can do a quick turn with the mouse by quickly moving it to the side.

You cant angle one joystick while you move it, and a directional input with one finger compared to having complete freedom and control of the directional input with a mouse is night and day different than using a/joysticks. Go watch any game that you can watch a stream of on console and then on pc and tell me there isnt a drastic difference in play when comparing either the same player or players of similar skill on each. Im not trying to say my perception is that this is a problem is more important that others perception that it isnt. Im saying the unbiased facts tell us this. If someone could explain the math behind having a mousepad and mouse and the movement allowed there compared to one joystick, that would be great....

The second joystick accomplishes the goal of being able to direct movement while aiming, but the mouse aiming compared to one joystick aiming is night and day different. The awsd keys or left joystick should be disregarded for the sake of my point here, but do obviously play a role in aiming and mobility. Maybe a slight controller advantage there, but again im about balance for both.

Basically a joystick you are predicting and waiting, in a short time but much longer than a mouse, and a mouse you are actively aiming much quicker and can place the reticle where you want with enough speed that it dosnt feel like you need to predict movement to just aim on the fly. A joystick this is the case unless combat is slowed down, like the eye of reach scope. I just want that trend to continue and wont let people undermine that on the forums. Maybe i care too much about it, wont argue there. Lol

i wont get into the pc graphics and framerate debate which is still an advantage but a futile argument and thats why you wont see me saying that its really an advantage.

I'm not sure what you would be able to do about this? punish players who wish to experience the beautiful world of Sea of Thieves with 60 fps and 4k? or did i misunderstand? But if you talk about fps being lower on console compared to a pc then that's not the devs fault, that would be the machines fault

I agree, i was just bringing up the difference between my valid argument, and a pointless one like that. But the conclusion isnt wrong. If the game isnt balanced for crossplay thats rares design flaw, im just trying to make sure they dont have it, half the time it feels like im talking to an angry dev who just dosnt want to try hard to fix the issue, otherwise idk why anyone would disagree except they either dont care or are a pc player wanting to keep their advantage.

atleast we are just having a discussion on the actual topic!

And thanks for not getting upset LGDub i do apologize this turned out this way, i dont apologize for my opinions though! Lol or for using scary big words "to sound smart"

P.S. all correctly unless the word police over there would like to point out a flaw or two 😆

@lgdubdub I agree.

Larger crews.

More ships.

Upgrades.

@trustmeimly1ng don't be !! It's a discussion just a tad bit off topic..

1 of my friends did bring up the idea of quests rewarding in using cannons, being a navigator in the crows nest, putting the flags down in the right winds.. the 6 man was a thought , just an option. Does not need to be a separate game instance.. disadvantage to the players or ship could be added.

@lgdubdub said in Game additions that will keep you and I playing:

The reasons I created this post were to improve the longevity of this game. I want people to keep coming back for more. There is huge potential with this game, there truly is so much to look foward too.
I wanted to bring some idea's to the table, i think will help with this. It seems to me , we have got off topic slightly.. pc m*********e and xbox elites will rage forever. It will be a ongoing thing for years to come. This game really is a game that does not have a huge advantage or disadvantage to either system.. (My opinion) .
I'm not getting into the debate , this can rage on in here but i would rather see people criticize some of my ideas. Talk about some that u may think are great?! I did put quite a few up. 6 man ship seemed to be 1 that struck note with most. I'm new to the forums! I did not read most threads.
I came here to help and give my opinion on what i think will keep people coming back for more. Some ideas, bad or not should be heard. So please drop some ideas, critize or agree!

Yea so sorry for this, just wanted to know what he meant with his statements

The reasons I created this post were to improve the longevity of this game. I want people to keep coming back for more. There is huge potential with this game, there truly is so much to look foward too.
I wanted to bring some idea's to the table, i think will help with this. It seems to me , we have got off topic slightly.. pc m*********e and xbox elites will rage forever. It will be a ongoing thing for years to come. This game really is a game that does not have a huge advantage or disadvantage to either system.. (My opinion) .
I'm not getting into the debate , this can rage on in here but i would rather see people criticize some of my ideas. Talk about some that u may think are great?! I did put quite a few up. 6 man ship seemed to be 1 that struck note with most. I'm new to the forums! I did not read most threads.
I came here to help and give my opinion on what i think will keep people coming back for more. Some ideas, bad or not should be heard. So please drop some ideas, critize or agree!

@a-cranky-eskimo said in Game additions that will keep you and I playing:

@trustmeimly1ng one joystick with one finger, compared to your whole arm and wrist with a mouse

Imo there's not much difference, you can do quick turns with a quick push to the side on the joystick, just as you can do a quick turn with the mouse by quickly moving it to the side.

i wont get into the pc graphics and framerate debate which is still an advantage but a futile argument and thats why you wont see me saying that its really an advantage.

I'm not sure what you would be able to do about this? punish players who wish to experience the beautiful world of Sea of Thieves with 60 fps and 4k? or did i misunderstand? But if you talk about fps being lower on console compared to a pc then that's not the devs fault, that would be the machines fault

@trustmeimly1ng one joystick with one finger, compared to your whole arm and wrist with a mouse, you can simply acquire targets with much greater precision in a shorter time frame. with a controller it becomes far more about tactical prediction than aiming. Which is why i like the eye of reach scope and cannon being capped. mobility is just general movement and how easy it is. Mouse and keyboard users can do things that arent even possible with a controller and yes i play on sensitivity 10. And everything else to do with mobility with a faster sensitivty and a mouse is more fluid. i wont get into the pc graphics and framerate debate which is still an advantage but a futile argument and thats why you wont see me saying that its really an advantage. M and K vs controller is something they can atleast make somewhat balanced, if people wanted to stay on topic instead of being salty with me for making a joke about sinking people after someone made a joke about xbox players being babies.

@a-cranky-eskimo said in Game additions that will keep you and I playing:

@shadowstrider-7 but its still a huge advantage in target acquisition and general mobility

Could you elaborate what you mean with this?

@seniorwaffle14 lol ok bud. Back to the skill discussion. When did i misuse a word btw? Was it when i said shadow insinuated i felt threatened? Oh no he asked ! L**o at you people. Yeah these 5 hours of game time beta testers know so much compared to me seeing pc players for hundreds of hours... i dont need to use big words to be right about crossplay balance or to sink both of you in game. Literally the most pathetic attempts to get at me, and if anything i never saw that all caps post but pc players are the ones i see far more often devolving any topic of balance into this. God forbid i stand up for myself ingame skill wise or with a concise and well evidenced post about balance. (Mod Edit) of here with that nonsense.

And if i come off aggressive oh well, thats what happens when a person with an advantage like pc acts like they dont have one and that i dont have a point. Ill aggressively defend my point because its important for xbox players in this game. And ive heard both pc players and xbox admit this balance issue. Hell even captain cross a pc player who is also the deadliest pirate in the alpha admitted it. Im not saying skill isnt huge in this game, it is, because its supposed to be. Control scheme advantages are not supposed to be. We agree its not like this is cod but i contend that the build up and time spent before a potential loss due to this advantage makes it just as important to balance as it would be there.

Some Great Ideas. i Love the Iea of have wather so strong that it requiers a good captain and good controll of the sails to not sink.

One small ide is dammage to the sails caused by cannons or by weather

@LgDubDub I’m sorry your thread had to turn into this toxic exchange. Personally I feel that severs shouldn’t be split up based on crew size, and I feel very strongly about that. I don’t want to be in a server where I know I’ll only ever find people with the same crew count as me. Also this wouldn’t make single or duo much of a challenge, which is exactly what they’re supposed to be. Balancing between crew sizes is the next step in my opinion, and this comes in the form of increasing a small ships ability to run away. I haven’t noticed in game that it is faster than a galleon going into the wind, so it should be a feature or be more dramatic. A sloop is supposed to run away from a galleon, anyone who stays and fights either better be good, or better be dumb.

@a-cranky-eskimo It always seems like there is a large majority of Xbox players so say they don’t see a difference (or at least not one that’s significant enough to change the tide), and then there’s people like you. Your personal experience in the game doesn’t mean much, especially when so many people who play on the same device as you post that they haven’t seen it making much of a difference. I remember a few days back there was another guy who would spam in all caps how crossplay will destroy this game bc it gives everything to the PC players, and there were dozens of people who said they hadn’t noticed what he was complaining about. Those who think that Xbox players have it way worse than pc players always seem aggresive, and I’m pretty sure they just need more practice with the Xbox on this game. People need to remember that skill across consoles matters as well, and they forget that while Xbox is garaunteed to give you better performance, lower end PCs can suffer in games like this. Rare has done a very good job of balancing this, and I was never able to tell whether I was fighting someone on Xbox or Pc, all I could tell was if they were keeping on their toes and playing well.

P.S. Please stop trying to use big words to sound smarter. You don’t know when to use them.

@a-cranky-eskimo said in Game additions that will keep you and I playing:

@lenny2k3 to be clear i like the ability to play crossplay, i just want balance with it, thats a reasonable hope not me crying. Pc players cry way more about anything that is an attempt at balance like the eye of reach scope sensitivity, or cannon sensitivity. If pc players cant make compromises then yeah i want xbox only servers. Ideally compromises would be made.

I feel like the eye of reach/spyglass sensitivity is intentional. it would make sense to kind of nerf sensitivity for PC players, plus, this isn't a twitch shooter. hit boxes are huge. and the combat is slow.

@lenny2k3 I have both and much prefer playing on Xbox find it pretty much the same on both. The only advantage is can load into game quicker on Xbox. To answer the original question of this thread NPC ships and a big town with port will keep me playing, and make the game more pirate☠

@A-Cranky-Eskimo "as an excuse"
That's a funny way of writing 'argument'.

@lilrevo69 But in all honesty, the Xbox players should have a tiny bit of Aim Assist, not to much, but not to little just in the middle

@knifelife PC has faster reaction time my friend, also we can set hotkeys to different buttons, such as side mouse buttons for easier things to do. Such as on Fortnite u can set them to a build item which gives us an adamvantage against console players. I don't think this game with PC or Xbox will have a big advantage in my opinion, so the whole cross platform thing should stay as is.

@shadowstrider-7 yeah i said pc losers lol... after someone said xbox babies.. better lock me
Up in PC jail.... i thought i was the one who needed to avoid forums because im sensitive or wait should i be ashamed for being insensitive? Or did you just devolve the topic into this when lenny hadnt even responded yet, and then play victim after you realized you had no good points to respond with and just said some lame excuses about your perception of the balance and how i must not be skilled, hence my "disgraceful" responses where i simply said id gladly sink you, in this pirate game.

I can requote my posts again if you like but clearly we all know theres a difference between M and K and controller, highly favoring a M and K if they dont balance the game.

And i actually responded on the topic of the OP and apologized, your attempt at making me a bad guy in this is absolutely hilarious.

"I came in with sincerity
And concern" no you came here and started talking down to everyone and then used your ignorance of crossplay imbalance and assumptions to make absolutely no good point. Yeah its positive to be positive, ignoring reality sure isnt though.

@a-cranky-eskimo
@Lenny2k3 said xbox babbies (his typo, not mine) and you responded with "PC losers". How is that "conducting yourself just fine"? You're a Pioneer and after viewing your post count, you've been here a while and should know better. Your ignorance and assumptions are no excuse. Seeing as how this is just going to further hijack @Lgdubdub topic, I'm respectfully pulling out of this. I came in with sincerity and concern and was greeted with ignorance, arrogance and assumptions. You should be ashamed, honestly.