@unstoppabledork said in Changes to Combat:

@sweetsandman

Well idk about you but I want that Gold Leaf shipset and weapon set that drops in s10.

Plus I think they’ve been doing a good job with the trading company sets priced at several hundred thousand gold per piece because they are all nice.

So gold is still very much valuable to me and I constantly run out of it and I still don’t own everything I have available to purchase in all the outpost stores.

Fair...I do tend to forget that with my frequency of play, I generally amass gold that Rare can't produce enough cosmetics to run me dry.

Casual players probably find way more value in gold.

@unstoppabledork said in Changes to Combat:

Sea of Thieves IS a PvP game first and foremost because if it wasn’t it wouldn’t be always enabled.

That’s the problem with Sea of Thieves forced PvP for all players when 90% of the content updates are PvE focused.

And a high risk high reward, high seas with PvP always enabled.

I disagree. PvP happens even when there isn't direct fighting. There's always social and positional leveraging in shady alliances. You have to negotiate over every little thing. Even when you give some people a good deal they want more. Then there are people who don't even want to talk so you have to be ready to be attacked all the time. I've had people come up from water or out of a portal like two island distance away and then that's just happening now bc of proximity.

Also, they don't make "PvE" content, they make content that produces loot. Loot is in theory what people are fighting and allying over.

@sweetsandman

Well idk about you but I want that Gold Leaf shipset and weapon set that drops in s10.

Plus I think they’ve been doing a good job with the trading company sets priced at several hundred thousand gold per piece because they are all nice.

So gold is still very much valuable to me and I constantly run out of it and I still don’t own everything I have available to purchase in all the outpost stores.

@unstoppabledork said in Changes to Combat:

@grumpyw01f

A captains skull of the Damned is the most underwhelming piece of treasure (that’s supposed to be valuable) in the game.

Reaper’s Chest extremely underwhelming.

Chest of Tributes underwhelming.

Breaths underwhelming.

Mega kegs underwhelming.

Special treasure should all have high gold values in my opinion.

The problem is not the gold value of the loot.

The problem is that gold is pretty meaningless.

If they released ship sets and cosmetics that people actually want at outposts and in the PL hideout with the frequency that they release them into the emporium, I would 1000% agree with you.

Or if gold had some actual use in the game aside from buying cosmetics, that'd work too.

Or if there were waaaaay more mechanics in the game similar to Merchant Commodities where you had to spend gold to make gold, that would even be better yet.

@grumpyw01f

A captains skull of the Damned is the most underwhelming piece of treasure (that’s supposed to be valuable) in the game.

Reaper’s Chest extremely underwhelming.

Chest of Tributes underwhelming.

Breaths underwhelming.

Mega kegs underwhelming.

Special treasure should all have high gold values in my opinion.

@unstoppabledork
I don't understand your problem.

• PvE updates give players more to fight over (Chest of Fortune)
• We're getting Skull of Siren Song, a PvP-only world event
• Captain's chests have sold for next to nothing for a lot longer than "recently"
• Emissaries make gold insanely easy to earn. (which means more PvP)

I cannot believe how little gold some special items are worth in this game like the captain skull of the Damned. It’s worth maybe 2 regular skulls of the Damned. You cannot be serious Rare. The captains skull of the Damned should be similar in gold value to an ashen winds skull.

And how much do you get for a whole ghost fleet world event? A lot. The captain skull is the commendation item, not the source of gold. Who cares that a captain skull is 2,000 gold when you have 40 items worth over 1,000 gold?

High Seas is going to get noobs and tall tale players off the servers so we can have exciting servers. How much time have you spent sailing around, searching for PvP before accepting that your server is dead? This won't be a problem in the future.

@valor-omega said in Changes to Combat:

@crowedhunter Yeah everyone was pretty respectful. Personally, I'm in favor of quick swap being removed, but I can absolutely respect that folks are upset about it. If I spent years learning to play in a certain way, and it was nerfed, I'd be miffed too. But life goes on, we adapt, and PvP players will still have no issue defeating other crews.

I do think that folks should have put time into just playing the game normally, instead of focusing on how to cheese combat, and take extra steps to get ahead of other players, but oh well. I feel like it's a pretty self-imposed issue; hardcore competitiveness has driven a lot of players from the game, and their general attitude towards casual players hasn't been great either. If a few of the toxic clowns make their exodus from SoT, good riddance.

Great perspective.

I love fighting games. When something is "meta-centralizing" (You either have to use a certain composition or focus all of your practice on countering said composition) then it gets banned. Once the focus is off of that character/tactic/composition, then the competition diversifies.

With quick swap, most "sweats" used two guns because that composition had the highest dps. 90% of my PvP with competent pirates have involved double gunning. Rare realized that this composition was meta-centralizing and found a way to lower its dps.

Now, the meta-centralizing technique is gone, and many of those "sweats" will start to experiment with different compositions. We will see more skilled swordplay and more strategy in player-player combat.

• Cutlass/Eye of Reach will return as the perfect balance of offense/defense/long range
• Cutlass/Blunderbuss will return as the boarder-berserker/sloop combat composition
• Cutlass/Flintlock will return as the all-around/high mobility/high mid range dps build

These loadouts existed before, but they were underused. I'm excited to play around with sword compositions that can actually win fights.

I actually disagree with the mod.

Sea of Thieves IS a PvP game first and foremost because if it wasn’t it wouldn’t be always enabled.

That’s the problem with Sea of Thieves forced PvP for all players when 90% of the content updates are PvE focused.

That’s why we need two modes.

A coop adventure mode with swag for the people who hate PvP.

And a high risk high reward, high seas with PvP always enabled.

I’m so sick of a captains chest selling for 600 gold on the high seas. Whoever decided to nerf the value of captains chests recently is no longer a friend of mine.

Make the treasure on the high seas seem extremely valuable.

I cannot believe how little gold some special items are worth in this game like the captain skull of the Damned. It’s worth maybe 2 regular skulls of the Damned. You cannot be serious Rare. The captains skull of the Damned should be similar in gold value to an ashen winds skull.

Make the special treasure, breaths of the sea, ashen winds skulls, chest of tributes, chest of legends, mega kegs very valuable in the high seas.

Buff the gold value of the rest of the treasure in the high seas by 3x what it is now and then let safer seas keep the current gold value but at 30% reputation gain.

@rustybeanyard 👁✅️

@crowedhunter https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/162016/an-ode-to-quick-swap/1

Excited to see new changes and all new content coming soon! keep the hard work Rare.

@pithyrumble said in Changes to Combat:

2.5 years and you just think you've seen bad updates lol.

Some of those wild y1 & 2 updates where ya signed in just to watch the dumpster fire, then didn't come back until the hotfix 2 days later.

Good times 👍🤙

Oh yeah. The bugs when barrels 2.0 rolled out? The days when Joe Neate had to apologize on stream around shrouded spoils because the bugs had gotten out of hand? I also had to chuckle at 2.5 years.... "young buck" was the term that came to mind. (or st least the polite term I can type in the forums.)

Just a reminder to keep all posts on topic and avoid personal disagreements.

2.5 years and you just think you've seen bad updates lol.

Some of those wild y1 & 2 updates where ya signed in just to watch the dumpster fire, then didn't come back until the hotfix 2 days later.

Good times 👍🤙

Now that the bozo is gone, we can resume regular, respectful discussions.

@snear-73 I'm sure you do, buddy. I'm sure you're not also toxic to them, either.

@crowedhunter Yeah everyone was pretty respectful. Personally, I'm in favor of quick swap being removed, but I can absolutely respect that folks are upset about it. If I spent years learning to play in a certain way, and it was nerfed, I'd be miffed too. But life goes on, we adapt, and PvP players will still have no issue defeating other crews.

I do think that folks should have put time into just playing the game normally, instead of focusing on how to cheese combat, and take extra steps to get ahead of other players, but oh well. I feel like it's a pretty self-imposed issue; hardcore competitiveness has driven a lot of players from the game, and their general attitude towards casual players hasn't been great either. If a few of the toxic clowns make their exodus from SoT, good riddance.

@snear-73 I have played Sea of Thieves for coming up 6 years (Alpha June 2017).

I don't understand your 'point'.

@valor-omega I do play those and Beat 99% of the players there.