I also don't believe this (running to the Shores of Gold to avoid having loot stolen) happens frequently anyways. Most people aren't savvy enough to sail to the Shores of Gold, and even if they did, they likely wouldn't have much loot to make it worthwhile. As others have stated, do PvP or sometimes I like to sneak up to the PvE'rs via rowboat or swimming and ambush them that way. Sailing toward them, only for them to give chase (Shores of gold or anywhere on the map frankly) is only going to be a waste of time, in my opinion.

@valor-omega
Yeah, for now it seems this is the most valid option. I just thought it was an interesting topic for discussion in general and wanted to see what people thought. Seems it is regarded as a valid strat so i need to get my tall tale game in check. Personally i could live without it but it seems others disagree so it is what it is.

To avoid this issue, you can simply just go to Morrow's, grab the tall tale, get to the checkpoint of where you go into the shroud, and keep it for anytime someone runs!

@pithyrumble
I don't know why you are being so offended by me just saying my opinion. Also let me give you a hint people you chase can manage sails too...

@gosva5434 said in Red Sea changes...:

@burnbacon
I think it creates an unhealthy playstyle. In Sea of Thieves player interaction is what makes the game unique and fun and no matter how much people try to deny it if there wasn't any pvp selling loot or completing events, commendations etc. would not feel as rewarding since pve is kinda easy tbh. Completing 50 FotD in an alliance server is not the same achievement as completing it in a normal server. Going to the shores of gold and just waiting till i give up provides no interaction of this kind at all, and if people really think that i am sad that i didn't get 100k worth of loot they are completely wrong. I wouldn't care if he just run or drive by sold everything. That would have been a nice chase and i would have accepted defeat. However using something that is imo an exploit ( yeah i know people do not agree and that is ok but that is what i believe) just to go to the red sea and not come out till i leave the borders is honestly not that fun for anyone i think. That person would have waited 5 hours if i didn't have other things to do and i would have wasted 5 hours of my time. Getting away by managing your sails, anchor turns, going into the fog or storm etc. is a much better story to tell for both partys. Again if i had time to wait he wouldn't have sold and would not get any loot so it would be a lose-lose situation and that is why i think it ruins the experience. Had he fought me and sunk me or just run somewhere else besides the red sea, burying the loot etc. would 100% been more fun for both of us. I have been chased and sunk multiple times and i can tell you that if found doing those things way more fun than if i waited at the red sea.

They did those things and you couldn't keep up so now you're whining about it because you can't be bothered with TT...

Take the hint and back off. Wait for their guard to drop. You obviously weren't going to out sail them otherwise they would have never made it to Tribute Peak.

My take on the PVP aspect is that it's expected to get attacked when you're doing a world event, but half of my PVP interactions have been from murderhobos, usually a galley, traveling across the map attacking literally every ship they see even if it's a fresh spawn at an outpost.

Denying them loot is always justified but it's better just to leave the server altogether when they show up

@scheneighnay said in Red Sea changes...:

@abjectarity said in Red Sea changes...:

@scheneighnay said in Red Sea changes...:

@schwammlgott said in Red Sea changes...:

@gosva5434 sagte in Red Sea changes...:

@vito1700
Don't you have to complete the other tall tales to do this?

Yes, you have to finish tall tale 1-8 to get the option to vote for TT 9

Yeah I don't even have it unlocked myself, slowly working towards it while grinding out the merchant ledger each month.

When I have shores of gold available I'm not using it for PVP or anti-PVP in any traditional sense.

I'm gonna be a rowboat reaper with my ship anchored at tribute peak.
Very easy to lose everything since I respawn back at tribute peak but it should be interesting.

I don’t want to burst your bubble but, unfortunately, rowboats can’t survive the Red Sea even with the checkpoint down. You’d have to have someone else sail your ship there while you’re off on adventure.

Figures, there's gotta be some trick to it. Hard part is knowing where the shroud starts.

That's easy - bury your rowboat loot somewhere then mermaid back to your ship, sail to your stash, gather loot and turn in. Profit!

@dragotech123

Well it seems i am gonna have to repeat myself again, but if that is what you believe fine. I never said you have to agree with me and in every answer i gave it is clearly stated that no one owes me a fight and this is simply my opinion. If you prefer alliance servers you do you.

It was an exploit in Hourglass PvP because the other boat had no other way to leave the battle area and could not do anything about it. In notmal adventure is not an exploit because the chaser can just do anything else, it's their choice to keep waiting outside of Tribute Peak when they could just go and do world events, voyages or look for the other ships in the server. No one owes you a fight, if you want to chase them over there do the shores of gold tall tales like the ship you were chasing, they did the tall tales so they deserve that checkpoint.

Player interaction is the least thing I want to experience in this game personally, and I would be happy to join an alliamce server and do 50 FotDs there. Fun is subjective, not everyone enjoys the same thing. You don't enjoy the tall tales? Well others don't enjoy having to fight other players to defend their loot.

@burnbacon
I think it creates an unhealthy playstyle. In Sea of Thieves player interaction is what makes the game unique and fun and no matter how much people try to deny it if there wasn't any pvp selling loot or completing events, commendations etc. would not feel as rewarding since pve is kinda easy tbh. Completing 50 FotD in an alliance server is not the same achievement as completing it in a normal server. Going to the shores of gold and just waiting till i give up provides no interaction of this kind at all, and if people really think that i am sad that i didn't get 100k worth of loot they are completely wrong. I wouldn't care if he just run or drive by sold everything. That would have been a nice chase and i would have accepted defeat. However using something that is imo an exploit ( yeah i know people do not agree and that is ok but that is what i believe) just to go to the red sea and not come out till i leave the borders is honestly not that fun for anyone i think. That person would have waited 5 hours if i didn't have other things to do and i would have wasted 5 hours of my time. Getting away by managing your sails, anchor turns, going into the fog or storm etc. is a much better story to tell for both partys. Again if i had time to wait he wouldn't have sold and would not get any loot so it would be a lose-lose situation and that is why i think it ruins the experience. Had he fought me and sunk me or just run somewhere else besides the red sea, burying the loot etc. would 100% been more fun for both of us. I have been chased and sunk multiple times and i can tell you that if found doing those things way more fun than if i waited at the red sea.

@abjectarity said in Red Sea changes...:

@scheneighnay said in Red Sea changes...:

@schwammlgott said in Red Sea changes...:

@gosva5434 sagte in Red Sea changes...:

@vito1700
Don't you have to complete the other tall tales to do this?

Yes, you have to finish tall tale 1-8 to get the option to vote for TT 9

Yeah I don't even have it unlocked myself, slowly working towards it while grinding out the merchant ledger each month.

When I have shores of gold available I'm not using it for PVP or anti-PVP in any traditional sense.

I'm gonna be a rowboat reaper with my ship anchored at tribute peak.
Very easy to lose everything since I respawn back at tribute peak but it should be interesting.

I don’t want to burst your bubble but, unfortunately, rowboats can’t survive the Red Sea even with the checkpoint down. You’d have to have someone else sail your ship there while you’re off on adventure.

Figures, there's gotta be some trick to it. Hard part is knowing where the shroud starts.

@scheneighnay said in Red Sea changes...:

@schwammlgott said in Red Sea changes...:

@gosva5434 sagte in Red Sea changes...:

@vito1700
Don't you have to complete the other tall tales to do this?

Yes, you have to finish tall tale 1-8 to get the option to vote for TT 9

Yeah I don't even have it unlocked myself, slowly working towards it while grinding out the merchant ledger each month.

When I have shores of gold available I'm not using it for PVP or anti-PVP in any traditional sense.

I'm gonna be a rowboat reaper with my ship anchored at tribute peak.
Very easy to lose everything since I respawn back at tribute peak but it should be interesting.

I don’t want to burst your bubble but, unfortunately, rowboats can’t survive the Red Sea even with the checkpoint down. You’d have to have someone else sail your ship there while you’re off on adventure.

However i still believe that red sea runners are still and issue and ruin the experience of Sea of Thieves

How is that ruining the experience. Yours or there’s?

You giving chase and not earning thing for your troubles. Or them for runnning and also not earning anything.

Explain

@pithyrumble I never said that anyone owes me anything just pointed out something i thought and still believe to be an exploit. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if you disagree that is ok. The Seas will only get better if we voice our opinions on certain things and this post did just that whether people agreed with me or not.

@schwammlgott said in Red Sea changes...:

@gosva5434 sagte in Red Sea changes...:

@vito1700
Don't you have to complete the other tall tales to do this?

Yes, you have to finish tall tale 1-8 to get the option to vote for TT 9

Yeah I don't even have it unlocked myself, slowly working towards it while grinding out the merchant ledger each month.

When I have shores of gold available I'm not using it for PVP or anti-PVP in any traditional sense.

I'm gonna be a rowboat reaper with my ship anchored at tribute peak.
Very easy to lose everything since I respawn back at tribute peak but it should be interesting.

@gosva5434 said in Red Sea changes...:

@scheneighnay
Well i would not say someone with a reaper 5 emissary stacked with loot with a pvp curse is your average pver that would run to the red sea...

Season 8's features have been out long enough that the really lucky/efficient loss farmers who harshly gag at the sight of PvP are now out here stacking world events and clearing FoFs/FotDs for the new commendations/achievements with their funny new cosmetics. Any player can be just as cowardly wearing anything hard-earned or not.

@gosva5434 sagte in Red Sea changes...:

@vito1700
Don't you have to complete the other tall tales to do this?

Yes, you have to finish tall tale 1-8 to get the option to vote for TT 9

@gosva5434 sagte in Red Sea changes...:

@scheneighnay
It's a pvp game though...

It's a PvEvP game...don’t mix that up

@gosva5434 I wouldn't call the run to Tribute Peak an exploit...definitly isn't...according to this, hiding treasure at mermaid statues is also an exploit...

Go for the tall tale checkpoint or live with it

Just get the checkpoint. All reapers should have it.

@gosva5434 said in Red Sea changes...:

@scheneighnay
It's a pvp game though...

It's not though....

Sea of Thieves is a Shared World Adventure Game. It is a mix of PvPvE.

No one has to fight.

Reapers are NOT "the PvP faction", they are simply the antithesis of the Pirate Lord and the Trading companies and get their gold/loot without following the rules/voyages of them.

Oh look, someone is playing differently than me. I'm going to complain about it.-

OP

They can do what they want, no one owes you a fight or a chance at their loot.

@scheneighnay
Well i would not say someone with a reaper 5 emissary stacked with loot with a pvp curse is your average pver that would run to the red sea...

@d3adst1ck said in Red Sea changes...:

@scheneighnay said in Red Sea changes...:

They can actually bury the loot at tribute peak and come back for it later.

Or just leave it out and let it despawn.

Yes, but they can do that on any island or water surface. Neither of which causes an immediate deletion.

Yeah but this is more in the context of Shores of Gold.