I think I might’ve figured out how the scoring works. Perhaps when they say destroying the rowboats hampers the reapers it means the Reapers actually lose points when the rowboat is destroyed away from Golden Sands? Likewise, turning in stolen supplies to the Servant probably causes the hunters to lose points, and all the other actions give points?

@bruvhandles blowing up the rowboats does nothing for golden sands. The outpost will fall. Ive saved it once for the completion...now untill the end i will only spend my time blowing it up more.

@d3adst1ck Someone mentioned that there may be a difference between purchased fruit and wood crates vs those found... so now I need to go test selling bought crate vs found crates at the different outposts.

Update: It appears there is a difference if the crate is bought vs found. Tested at Galleons Grave Outpost with a crate purchased and another found on a sunken ship. The purchased fruit crate could be sold, while the one found could not be sold.

Found fruit crate:

Purchased fruit crate:

@d3adst1ck said in Bias in the fate of Golden Sands:

@wyvernkraehe Maybe it's just Morrow's Peak that is broken?

Possibly?

I did try a fruit crate as well.

@wyvernkraehe Hmm, did you try a fruit crate? Maybe it's just Morrow's Peak that is broken?

I did a Lost Shipment mission from Finest Trading Post to Ancient Spire. The captain quarters had a fruit crate in it. I continued sailing to Morrow's Peak and tried to sell it (it was full) and I was not allowed to, with the text directing me to sail it to Merrick instead. I wasn't able to sell it as an emissary or as a non-emissary, but only the non-emissary had the Merrick text (emissary only showed the 'take emissary quest' text as I was grade 5).

@d3adst1ck For the sake of science, I went to test and see if crates could still be sold at other islands.

I purchased a wood and fruit crate on Plunder Outpost, and was able to sell both at Sanctuary Outpost. They can still be sold on other islands, and it has not been turned off. I was not sailing under an emissary flag at the time.

@mferr11 I was confused about that one as well, and had thought that it helped Golden Sands. Apparently that is not the case and it does not when it come to points towards Merrick. It just 'hampers Reapers efforts'.

@SeaOfThieves said in https://twitter.com/SeaOfThieves/status/1531273214667653123:

While destroying Soulflame Rowboats away from Golden Sands may hamper Reaper efforts, it doesn't contribute to the efforts to rebuild Golden Sands. Special Rum and Sailcloth, standard Fruit and Wood Crates or intercepted Relic Caches handed in at Golden Sands all help.

@metal-ravage Hahaha ok, not a Reaper but alright

@wyvernkraehe said in Bias in the fate of Golden Sands:

Not many casual crews are going to be sailing filled wood and fruit crates all the way over to Golden Sands at the end of a sail when they can just sell at whatever outpost they are at.

I think this has been disabled for the event. I ended up at Morrow's Peak last night at the end of my night and tried to sell a fruit crate. I was a merchant emissary so all it give me for options were to speak to the representative or claim emissary quest. I lowered my emissary and the option to sell the fruit crate was greyed out and told me to sail to Golden Sands to sell it to Merrick.

So it seems the only options for fruit crates, at least, is the Reaper Hideout, Merrick or dumping them if you don't want to sail to either place.

@faceyourdemon If you are aware of the conditions in this conflict that means you don't understand them. And judging from your emotional answer that looks like a lot of salt to me.

Doesn't matter there is a big sea and I like reapers' tears early in the morning!

While it is true that the job of rebuilding Golden sands is faster and that in 99% of the polls I've seen around about 60% of the players voted to rebuild Golden Sands, it looks like currently reapers are winning. So this is eithers a lie made up by Rare just as a marketing stunt to make those 60% players grind more or Reapers are just grinding much harder compared than "Hunters" and Rare expected this to happen, which would be way they decided to make helping Reaper "harder". Possibly Hunters are just playing the adventure and then ignoring the tasks.

I personally don't like the activities we were given to impact the war so, even tho I side with Golden Sands, I'm not actively trying to help rebuilding, I'm just igniting random Reaper's Rowboats I find around while paying.

@metal-ravage What are you talking about?

Ive checked the instructions, even made a post to further understand the rules, how is that have anything to do with boasting?

Im sorry but what youve said is radically stupid, there no irony here, two sides got objectives but one side is more likely to win due to easy condition.

Im not salty about anything, but whats the point in making two sides battle on an outcome if the Hunter's path is by far easier?

Do you deny that?

Well the website has said its been a draw for 4 days yet they just posted an image on youtube community tag that reapers are winning at 55.5% lol they just cant wrap their head around how to share info like this when their "official" site lacks half the updates

@faceyourdemon I suggest you to read the instructions of the challenge once you accepted to pick a side.

After all the boasting now the reapers are looking for fairness. More than sarcastic I find that ironic.

@metal-ravage Wow its like you are either ignoring the issue on purpose or blind, why does it matter if its PvE or not??
Asking for fairness really deserves sarcasm?

Rowing in one by one is much slower then igniting rowboats on the way, period.

You can explode rowboats from literally everywhere, did vaults on DR and saw bunch of em, do you suggest me to row them all the way?

@guyrza It has been a struggle to get Merrick to gain any ground. Sure, rowboats can be blown up- but casual crews help Reapers too every time they turn in crates of wood and fruit in to Reapers at the end of a sail. Not many casual crews are going to be sailing filled wood and fruit crates all the way over to Golden Sands at the end of a sail when they can just sell at whatever outpost they are at.

Just because reapers isn't winning doesn't mean anything is unbalanced. Reapers was winning at first. There are people who want to see Golden Sands restored and have been sailing and working to try to help it get restored. Merrick still hasn't been winning. It's been a struggle.

Rare seems to have made it quite balanced. It's going to be hard for either side or to get Golden Sands to be restored.

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There is also going to be a change in the game no matter which side wins (as I've seen some quote that as the reason for fighting for Reaper. Merrick winning doesn't mean there won't be in game change). The only difference is the KIND of change that will happen. In addition to wanting the outpost and trading route back, I want to see how the lore with Merrick and Belle develop. There is also absolutely no guarantee anything will happen to the outpost other then it just remaining as a destroyed island as lore develops elsewhere. Nothing has been said about Golden Sands becoming anything else and could just stay abandoned.

@gundy-the-shark glad that you are checking my posts) It is true, I admit that I am frustrated about Reapers not winning. This story has been developing for 5 months now and in the end everything getting back to normal is kinda boring. But I agree with you on your last point.

@burnbacon Im not saying its hard. Im saying its harder than simply blowing the boat the moment you see it. And this helps to restore golden sands. Whats easier, row on a rowboat or blow up a keg? I assume the second

@kommodoreyenser thats exactly what I was doing, there were 2 more sloops chilling, but then some random guy came and sank us all while we were rowing. Another time a ghost fleet spawned at the isle where I had to take the box. It was fired upon blew up and I had to restart again. Plus whats it gonna take for someone to canon shot to hideout and blow a random boat there. Jus way too easy for em

I'd also be interested to know the points system. I've seen people doing their first reaper run on YT and ended up detonating three or four rowboats just in the adventure/messing about before one got to golden sands. People are generating them, looting them, blowing them up and getting a new one, all in the space of a few minutes. People are farming rum bottles and every rowboat in the wild can be detonated for rebuild points. On the surface, it does seem more than slightly unbalanced!

I keep blowing up row boats I come across on beaches, hope that helps golden sands and not the reapers. I haven’t done any of the new missions yet probably never will I hope blowing up these random bow boats at least helps a little

Could someone confirm that blowing up a rowboat outside of Golden Sands actually gives points to Merrick and doesn't just stop the Reapers from using them? Rare's tweet doesn't make it clear.

Stopping Soulflame Rowboats from reaching Golden Sands will also hamper Reaper plans.

@Musicmee Any chance you have knowledge on this?

Given your previous post about this topic, sounds like someone’s a little salty that their side isn’t winning anymore 😝.

In all seriousness though, I think Rare tried as best they could to balance things whilst adhering to the in-game lore. No matter what approach they took, one side would probably have had an advantage over the other.

Reapers are not helping themselves because they are not reading their mission instructions. The number of Reaper boats I destroyed over the weekend because they had a keg row boat on the back was ridiculous.