Stop trying to have equality on the Seas

@nagthenaggy The funny thing is that they actually think it's an even playing field. Being able to unlock new tool is "unbalanced" and "unfair" and "too much power" while being able to have 4 people on a crew and fight solo players is "fair"? lol logic...

In Sea of Thieves, your character doesn't get stronger as you gain levels......

However, with experience, you become a better PLAYER....

In a fight between two crews, I'd always bet on the more experienced crew to win...

Many solo sloopers sink galleons all the time.

The only disadvantage to experienced players is when we are outnumbered by equally experienced players, and THAT is a matter of choice....(i.e. I CHOSE to play on a sloop instead of a galleon)

Don't be fooled into thinking there's no progression....it's just not progression that can be measured by levels.....

There are skill based games and there are progression based games.

SoT is a skill based game.

Some people like skill based games, some people like progression based games, and some people like both. All of that is okay.

It's okay if you don't like skill based games.

It's not okay to demand a skill based game change its core mechanics to be a progression based game, nor vice versa.

@nagthenaggy I haven't heard one of these for a while. So you would have this game be even more punishing to newer players than it already is? Imagine losing a ton of loot because you encountered a player with better weapons/stats that you could not possess and how unfair that would be. If you want to go on a power trip and lord over new players in a game, there are plenty of other games that have that. You can check back in in another 6 months and SoT will still have the same "equal playing field junk"

Honestly all the game needs is cosmetics that you earn after maxing out rep for a company. Turn in so many chests of each type for a different cosmetic. So low level loot means something. Merchant deliveries for cargo and animal would be made more.

The games main end goal for all players is to play to be a pirate and have an adventure. Similar to No Mans Sky when you feel like you’ve had enough you put it down. There’s nothing wrong with that.

I’ve played since launch and have taken a couple of breaks in playing here or there. But after a few weeks break I get the itches to set sail again.

the only way this sould possibly work is if the weapons aviable to leveld players were a side grade, different stats but it has a downside to level the playing field. and even that is unlikely to happen

@ultmateragnarok but you cant unlock them soooo... and im talking about an alternative bluderbuss or an alternative flinklock

I have some titles, scars and weapons that others don’t have.
Like the shark bite from hungering deep. Or skull sword thing from last years anniversary (me thinks) and even few time limited stuff because, nobody got time for those difficult things.

One day I will have the shroud ghost title....

@drbullhammer [Mod edit] what he means is the encounters in pvp are getting old and repetitive. I (and im assuming that you) have been playing since launch, and the core combat from two years ago hasn't changed much. That's the argument that is being made here.

@wisedekuleaf pvp doesnt get repetitive because people have the same weapons. It gets repetitive because the mechanic is still board and terrorize. Ship to ship combat is still not promoted enough and even when you get a good sea fight it usually comes down to a lucky cannonball kill or having the right ccb. Equality is neccessary on the seas or pirates like me would have way much of an advantage over newer pirates.

@nagthenaggy said in Stop trying to have equality on the Seas:

The whole point of an open world progression game is that you build up to getting better equipment, but everyone has the exact same stuff.

Good sir,
This mention of what the core of this game is, is a total wrong look on the game. This is no way intented as an open world progression game.

This game is build for interaction. We all have the same no upgrades just skills. Its like a sandbox game with tools.
Basicly all they want is give u option to interact with the world and its players to have an adventure and a story to tell. All the other additions as rep, "progress", coin, cosmetics is just to add to the story of your adventure.

@nagthenaggy i understand where rare is coming from ... especially when it comes to new players, the game takes some getting use to as it is and having a crew that has high level stuff against a new crew would be pretty unfair, especially how most pvp crews are now... i cant count how many people kill new players for the fun of it, prevent them from having fun with the game

@nagthenaggy

The beauty of the game is that even though you haven't touched it in six months there is no barrier for you to join and play at the highest levels along with the rest of us. Additionally it may be an open world environment and it actually does have a progression system within the gameplay itself. Yet this progress is session based instead of persistent and what attracts many of us to the game.

Most open world games have reset mechanics in them as well even though they are 24/7 persistent. Be it through players wiping each other out, game mechanics through purge events or forced wipes. These usually mean that you have to be dedicated for a week, month or years even if you want to be able to play end game in any shape or form or join a community to share that burden. The seas just reset each and every play, session based.

Let's be clear, not all pirates are on equal footing when they meet. Apart from the skill gap and crew choice, we have actual gameplay progression. We are all pirates that join the world with the same starting point.

We have the clothes on our back, how pretty they may be. We have the weapons, how gruesome they might appear and a ship with basic supplies. Then we gather and progress by collecting

• additional supplies which makes us stronger in combat, healthy and defensively more capable
• throwables that provide us with additional ways to engage in combat
• upgrades to our cannonball regiment in the form of cursed cannonballs
• a rowboat to increase our mobility and ease to gather treasures
• we get storage crates to increase our supply rate and provides a portable source of supplies
• we get ammo crates allowing us to create sniper nests and beneficial fight locations
• finally we have the ability to collect explosives for devastating effects

The progress we make can be taken away by other players, placing us back to the starting state with just the supplies you carry for the effort till that point.

The progress we make is reset the next time we join as well. Making sure that the seas remain a fun experience for both new and veterans, without the need to feel: I need to grind and get x, y, z.

There is no barrier to enter, but the experience we gain makes us better than the new. Play a game because you enjoy playing it, not because you need some pixels. As long as you are enjoying the game you are not wasting time in my opinion.

The only true progress in games that matters is our own abilities and those are not linked to any ingame item or tool. You can even take that progress with you to the next game that you play.

A level playing field isn't killing this game. It's the lack of meaningful content.

@nagthenaggy Having it the way it is makes this a skills based game. Clearly bugs are a factor, but apart from that, it’s about being good with the tools you have. There are solo sloopers who can handle good Galleon crews. There are A10 players, for example, who still can’t navigate without the map - a player who can has an advantage. So, it’s less about an equal playing field and more about relying on player skill over an artificial buff.

OP does not realize that the actual progression is in the players brain.

How much better could he be as a player if he stayed and accrued actual game experience?

Now he has returned, and realizes how the game should make him better.

Must be a shock to learn that the sea is a cruel mistress and does not care.

@betsill said in Stop trying to have equality on the Seas:

while being able to have 4 people on a crew and fight solo players is "fair"? lol logic...

I was able to kill full crews just last night on my own (while my crew focus on repairing our ship). I'm basically the dedicated PvPer when I party with my friends while they focus on keeping the ship floating. Which gives me time to just invade an enemy ship and kill them all.

I can probably do the same with a solo sloop but my ship will be sailing off or in a circle without me while I invade enemy ships...

The game is on a pretty good even playing ground, only skill matters.

Then go play Call of Duty if you’re that bored of lack of progression lol

I say it’s awesome because each encounter with each pirate is unique. Each weapon is the same but requires different skills and tactics to use and even then, people’s playstyles come into account too so they’d have to work around that as well!

Maybe pirates are better fighting out on the waters, maybe others are better in close combat with their blades, maybe some are better shots with the eye of reach.

Every battle is unique in its own way. THAT is what makes the even and fair playing field so great and fun!

@clumsy-george I'm not saying that your weapons should deal more damage, that's stupid. I'm saying there should be exclusive NEW weapons for players that are higher levels. These weapons wouldn't do more damage they would just open new ways to attack people

@agent-samuraii you are so blinded that there has been NO CHANGE in weapons for TWO YEARS. They've tweaked the combat for the worse but havent added a single new weapon. For a game that encourages combat, they really suck at providing new ways to fight. Quit being a soyboy and open your eyes

@nagthenaggy

My eyes are open mate. Open to the fact that this is the first game I’ve ever played where I dont have to worry about encountering people with better ANYTHING.

All is fair within the Sea of Thieves! No advantages, no disadvantages (other than ship size, sometimes). Just you, other pirates, and the weapons and strategies they choose.

Aside from hit registration (sometimes) and sometimes lag, you have nobody else to blame but yourself if you fail. You live and you learn. And when you learn it actually makes you a better pirate.

All is fair within the Sea of Thieves! Dont let the salt water get to ye, fellow pirate! This, coming from a pirate who stupidly kept drinking said salt water (even now I’m still a salty pirate).

@waronpants2664
Well said. I was thinking the same thing. Not very even when you get a group that just picks on smaller ships and farms them.