Killing a game, more than ever

@goedecke-michel said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@stew360 I don't need a thousand streamers to like the game.

Actually you do. See this is what none of you want to get and its quite frustrating to read some of your responses (not you specifically, I mean in General) This game and most games are dependant on popularity and this one is going down and what is a good gage in the age of influencers? Twitch and unfortunately what you don't realize is that for the past year you have been enjoying tons of free updates and RARE will need to make money at some point and when they do release a pay to play patch or maybe micro transactions in forms of pets etc whos going to buy em? are you going to keep the game going on your own since you dont care?

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@ticklepantzz I have not been enjoying free update at all ... I have had access to " Contents update " that should have been part of the game at launch ... this game ship with ZERO contents what so ever ... 4 skelletons type 1 kraken , few island , and some chest and chickens ..

Compare Borderlands 2 contents wise to this game even now and tell me i had Free update again ... they could " free update " the game for another year and yet they wouldnt have the contents they should have had a launch ... so please

Yeah my point is that at some point they wil have to make money....

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

I play since Alpha and they RUINED the gameplay i enjoyed and the gameplay we all played to polish at launch

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@ticklepantzz I have not been enjoying free update at all ... I have had access to " Contents update " that should have been part of the game at launch ... this game ship with ZERO contents what so ever ... 4 skelletons type 1 kraken , few island , and some chest and chickens ..

So which is it? Did you ever enjoy the game, or did you not?

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@snowfire Unless they revert these awfull change no it wont ... SOT was top 3 on twitch ... now its back to few hundreads viewers NONE of my friends play anymore ..

SOT now on twitch : Sea of Thieves
1 196 746 followers · 3 479 viewers

Even resident evil 2 as 3 times ... more twitch viewers than SOT since patch , summit as refuse to play and all skill base streamers also refuse to play because the gameplay and change are just that bad and wrong ... they blew it .. they gain popularity and players based on skills base gameplay and fun interaction and strategy ...

No ones get entertain or pull into a game looking at : joeshmoe , killing mindless skeletons that arent even fun to play agains with a cheap clunky sword ...

Summit1G made this game popular and made it a trend among streamers ... RARE kill it and ruin their game fews months later ..

If killing the game is fixing an exploit, I am perfectly fine with that. :) I am sure the streams will pick up more once the Arena is out and there is constant action. But to be honest I couldn't care less if 0 people streamed this game. I only watch the Dev stream because it's on my lunch break, if am at home I am playing not watching people play.

@zormis said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@snowfire Unless they revert these awfull change no it wont ... SOT was top 3 on twitch ... now its back to few hundreads viewers NONE of my friends play anymore ..

SOT now on twitch : Sea of Thieves
1 196 746 followers · 3 479 viewers

Even resident evil 2 as 3 times ... more twitch viewers than SOT since patch , summit as refuse to play and all skill base streamers also refuse to play because the gameplay and change are just that bad and wrong ... they blew it .. they gain popularity and players based on skills base gameplay and fun interaction and strategy ...

No ones get entertain or pull into a game looking at : joeshmoe , killing mindless skeletons that arent even fun to play agains with a cheap clunky sword ...

Summit1G made this game popular and made it a trend among streamers ... RARE kill it and ruin their game fews months later ..

If killing the game is fixing an exploit, I am perfectly fine with that. :) I am sure the streams will pick up more once the Arena is out and there is constant action. But to be honest I couldn't care less if 0 people streamed this game. I only watch the Dev stream because it's on my lunch break, if am at home I am playing not watching people play.

Before you post you should read. He mad about the nerfs to movement not the double gun exploit.

@ticklepantzz said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@zormis said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@snowfire Unless they revert these awfull change no it wont ... SOT was top 3 on twitch ... now its back to few hundreads viewers NONE of my friends play anymore ..

SOT now on twitch : Sea of Thieves
1 196 746 followers · 3 479 viewers

Even resident evil 2 as 3 times ... more twitch viewers than SOT since patch , summit as refuse to play and all skill base streamers also refuse to play because the gameplay and change are just that bad and wrong ... they blew it .. they gain popularity and players based on skills base gameplay and fun interaction and strategy ...

No ones get entertain or pull into a game looking at : joeshmoe , killing mindless skeletons that arent even fun to play agains with a cheap clunky sword ...

Summit1G made this game popular and made it a trend among streamers ... RARE kill it and ruin their game fews months later ..

If killing the game is fixing an exploit, I am perfectly fine with that. :) I am sure the streams will pick up more once the Arena is out and there is constant action. But to be honest I couldn't care less if 0 people streamed this game. I only watch the Dev stream because it's on my lunch break, if am at home I am playing not watching people play.

Before you post you should read. He mad about the nerfs to movement not the double gun exploit.

Like having to ready your weapon after sprinting? I can agree with him on that. Switching weapon should be a delay, eating a banana or sprinting shouldn't make you ready it again, but at the same time I can live with it and not worried if they change it or not. As long as we all play by the same rules I am happy.

@zormis Yeah but thats what we all been complaning about whole time hahahah XD

The senseless delay after sprinting and shooting or pulling gun out etc.

@ticklepantzz said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@zormis Yeah but thats what we all been complaning about whole time hahahah XD

The senseless delay after sprinting and shooting or pulling gun out etc.

The OP was angry at the DG nerf so that's what I was replying too, I don't think I seen anyone argue that the delay after sprinting or eating a banana is a good thing. But I also didn't read all 8 pages. :)

@xempero517x said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@muffinstuffingu Dude this is a cartoon game about being a pirate. Try not to take it so seriously.

Who says i am? What gave you that impression?I haven't posted here in like days i must have said something to get you worked up calm down and take some deep breaths

@snowfire said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@snowfire Wrong the game wasnt doing fine ... it was slowly dying without exposure and MS would stop funding the game if they make no revenue ... Summit1G was the best thing that could have happen to this game

I play since Alpha and they RUINED the gameplay i enjoyed and the gameplay we all played to polish at launch

they compleatly change the game and compleatly ruined it gameplay and gunplay wise ... its no longer skill base its now numbers base its now slugish , and bad ... the game will eventually fade away because RARE blew it ..

unless the next patch remoove the ready speed after running and tone down the weapons switch delay to a 0.1 seconds instead of 1 ... dont dream this game will survive more than few months

LOL slowly dieing. I watched about half of the vid you posted as it was all I could take, he moaned that he would jump on a ship insulting people calling them c word and wanted to be insulted back on the voice coms?!?!.
Family's play this game, children play it.

It's ok the be a skalewag and steal someone's treasure , but to insult and call people the c word is childish and unacceptable.

Sorry but this is where i actually agreed with the video and disagree with joe neate and the rest of the devs. The insults are part of "be more pirate" in my book. Not everyone's pirate is the same. i want trash talk when i'm in battle both me doing it and the crew i'm trying to sink.... its boring otherwise lets not make the sea on sea of theives a "safe place" PLEASE!

@vderickv while I hear what you're saying, mate, I'm curious where you would draw the line? So strong language and/or trash talk is fine. Is foul language with racial slurs okay? Sexually charged insults/harassment? Not necessarily disagreeing with you, just trying to understand what you think is okay and what you think is not okay. Because at least from the stories people are sharing on the forums, it seems that "trash talk" tends to quickly escalate into those more unacceptable forms.

@vorondil1 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@vderickv while I hear what you're saying, mate, I'm curious where you would draw the line? So strong language and/or trash talk is fine. Is foul language with racial slurs okay? Sexual slurs? Not necessarily disagreeing with you, just trying to understand what you think is okay and what you think is not okay.

Listen i'm not going to get all political in here. Because if i commented the way you want i would get political.

I'm just going to say. I'm not sitting here using the N word or anything of that nature.

But calling someone any curse words while in battle having fun.(i literally mean any curse word I really don't care) is totally fine.

EDIT: There are mute options in game for things exactly like this. Having a zero tolerance as rare says for discrimination/hate is okay as long as you don't go full communist i'm taking your 1st amendment right away on this issue. Thats when a game gets to political for its own good. You see the game of atlas stopping the discrimination against the chinese? haha no.

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320 SOT gameplay as been like this and polish to be this way since ALPHA ... if they ever had made this game the way it is back then NONE OF MY FRIENDS would ever have play , i wouldnt have bought the game in the first place .. i do not play slugish despicable games ...

they change the gameplay base on recents whining of the " diehard seas of rainbows fans " that joe seams to affectionate so much , and backstab the skill base players who enjoyed PVP fight and real competition and fun ...

They never intended the game to be slow , slugish and have these delay ... if they did this game would have been like this a year ago at launch ...

the gameplay was meant to be responsive , fast and fun ... the opposite of what it as evolve to cater to a whiney audience who are noisy and are a tiny loud minority

Are you absolutely certain of Rare's intentions? That Sea of Thieves was always meant to be fast and twitchy on the PvP side? On top of that, are you certain the PvP scene back in Alpha was that way?

Also, seeing you go off on "Diehard Sea of Rainbows" fans really reveals exactly the kind of person you are. I get having a good, hearty PvP battle, cannons blazing and steel flashing, but mindless insults isn't very pirate-like. On top of that, you mention Rare is catering to a "whiny audience." That statement is incredibly ironic, I hope you realize that.

@vderickv fair enough. Apologies if you felt I was provoking you, didn't mean to. I'm clearly off-topic at this point, though, so I'll stop derailing :)

@blam320
As you are speaking to Stew360 i cant answer as to if he knows or not. BUT

I'm 100% positive.
Rare was happy with there product on release as it was.
That was until the eor flintlock doublegunning was becoming widespread and the (instakill exploit) not being part of their intention they went to fix it. now after 1 yr of release they release a fix to fix double gun exploit. But completly changes the orignial intention of how they wanted the game. (they are changing what they want based on player feedback)

However other then the double gun exploit the game on launch most certainly was rares vision for the game.

@vderickv said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320
As you are speaking to Stew360 i cant answer as to if he knows or not. BUT

I'm 100% positive.
Rare was happy with there product on release as it was.
That was until the eor flintlock doublegunning was becoming widespread and the (instakill exploit) not being part of their intention they went to fix it. now after 1 yr of release they release a fix to fix double gun exploit. But completly changes the orignial intention of how they wanted the game. (they are changing what they want based on player feedback)

However other then the double gun exploit the game on launch most certainly was rares vision for the game.

I'm still waiting for what the "original interaction" was supposed to be. I'm well aware of what Rare's vision for the game was at launch, it's not that hard to extrapolate. Players have also made it clear through their feedback and polls that they're willing to work within that vision to make Sea of Thieves a better game.

@blam320 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@vderickv said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320
As you are speaking to Stew360 i cant answer as to if he knows or not. BUT

I'm 100% positive.
Rare was happy with there product on release as it was.
That was until the eor flintlock doublegunning was becoming widespread and the (instakill exploit) not being part of their intention they went to fix it. now after 1 yr of release they release a fix to fix double gun exploit. But completly changes the orignial intention of how they wanted the game. (they are changing what they want based on player feedback)

However other then the double gun exploit the game on launch most certainly was rares vision for the game.

I'm still waiting for what the "original interaction" was supposed to be.

The way the gun combat was (before this update), is the way rare had intended it to be otherwise it wouldn't have been that way for the games whole first year!

Regarding what Rare says their intentions are.
They said their intentions were to never have an instakill option.

They even changed the blunderbuss to instakill less often.

So if all they did was add a deley between 2 different guns that would be enough to fix that insta kill exploit.

It would have fixed what they were trying to fix. instead they now have all these delays everywhere completely changing the combat balance.

@vderickv said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@vderickv said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320
As you are speaking to Stew360 i cant answer as to if he knows or not. BUT

I'm 100% positive.
Rare was happy with there product on release as it was.
That was until the eor flintlock doublegunning was becoming widespread and the (instakill exploit) not being part of their intention they went to fix it. now after 1 yr of release they release a fix to fix double gun exploit. But completly changes the orignial intention of how they wanted the game. (they are changing what they want based on player feedback)

However other then the double gun exploit the game on launch most certainly was rares vision for the game.

I'm still waiting for what the "original interaction" was supposed to be.

The way the gun combat was (before this update), is the way rare had intended it to be otherwise it wouldn't have been that way for the games whole first year!

Regarding what Rare says their intentions are.
They said their intentions were to never have an instakill option.

They even changed the blunderbuss to instakill less often.

So if all they did was add a deley between 2 different guns that would be enough to fix that insta kill exploit.

It would have fixed what they were trying to fix. instead they now have all these delays everywhere completely changing the combat balance.

Ah, the old "don't change it because it was that way at launch" fallacy. Honestly, a leaky bucket holds more than your argument.

Intentions change. Interactions change. As was shown with the "double-gun" exploit, players will seek out all the faults in the code and abuse them to their maximum. So, Rare decided to cover all their bases.

On top of that, the argument that something shouldn't be changed purely because that's the way it was at launch is utterly ridiculous. Just because it's how they wanted it at launch, doesn't mean that's how they'll want it a year after.

@blam320 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@vderickv said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@vderickv said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320
As you are speaking to Stew360 i cant answer as to if he knows or not. BUT

I'm 100% positive.
Rare was happy with there product on release as it was.
That was until the eor flintlock doublegunning was becoming widespread and the (instakill exploit) not being part of their intention they went to fix it. now after 1 yr of release they release a fix to fix double gun exploit. But completly changes the orignial intention of how they wanted the game. (they are changing what they want based on player feedback)

However other then the double gun exploit the game on launch most certainly was rares vision for the game.

I'm still waiting for what the "original interaction" was supposed to be.

The way the gun combat was (before this update), is the way rare had intended it to be otherwise it wouldn't have been that way for the games whole first year!

Regarding what Rare says their intentions are.
They said their intentions were to never have an instakill option.

They even changed the blunderbuss to instakill less often.

So if all they did was add a deley between 2 different guns that would be enough to fix that insta kill exploit.

It would have fixed what they were trying to fix. instead they now have all these delays everywhere completely changing the combat balance.

Ah, the old "don't change it because it was that way at launch" fallacy. Honestly, a leaky bucket holds more than your argument.

Intentions change. Interactions change. As was shown with the "double-gun" exploit, players will seek out all the faults in the code and abuse them to their maximum. So, Rare decided to cover all their bases.

On top of that, the argument that something shouldn't be changed purely because that's the way it was at launch is utterly ridiculous. Just because it's how they wanted it at launch, doesn't mean that's how they'll want it a year after.

Well as a player that has played the game since launch i can say the combat now is absolutely worse then launch day. Pve and pvp i feel both hit registration is worse today then launch and honestly not sure how this is still a thing 1 yr later and they aren't focused on it... their focused on crossplay options and emphasis on their pirates code....

Have you played this game since launch?

@blam320 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@stew360 said in Killing a game, more than ever:

@blam320 SOT gameplay as been like this and polish to be this way since ALPHA ... if they ever had made this game the way it is back then NONE OF MY FRIENDS would ever have play , i wouldnt have bought the game in the first place .. i do not play slugish despicable games ...

they change the gameplay base on recents whining of the " diehard seas of rainbows fans " that joe seams to affectionate so much , and backstab the skill base players who enjoyed PVP fight and real competition and fun ...

They never intended the game to be slow , slugish and have these delay ... if they did this game would have been like this a year ago at launch ...

the gameplay was meant to be responsive , fast and fun ... the opposite of what it as evolve to cater to a whiney audience who are noisy and are a tiny loud minority

Are you absolutely certain of Rare's intentions? That Sea of Thieves was always meant to be fast and twitchy on the PvP side? On top of that, are you certain the PvP scene back in Alpha was that way?

Also, seeing you go off on "Diehard Sea of Rainbows" fans really reveals exactly the kind of person you are. I get having a good, hearty PvP battle, cannons blazing and steel flashing, but mindless insults isn't very pirate-like. On top of that, you mention Rare is catering to a "whiny audience." That statement is incredibly ironic, I hope you realize that.

Hello,

So riddle me this why the heck are the introducing the area? And why did Joe just talk about mercenary voyages in the last youtube video and being attacked? ....