[Mega Thread] Barrel 2.0

Well first of all, I’m not against the new barrels. I can see why controller players are going to hate them. You’ve essentially given them another reason to say us pc players have an advantage. And they wouldn’t be wrong in saying it. The new UI works well with a keyboard and mouse selection. But is clunky and adds time when using a controller. We tested with both.

Personally I’m rather surprised if you did test this feature, why there isn’t a indication of whether the barrels are empty or not and why there isn’t a take all feature. This would at least make the balance between controller and mouse less of an issue.

I’m also surprised that you have made the cursed cannon balls as common as they are and am hoping that’s just for the event and they will be dialled back after. As my fear is that I’ll engage in pvp, spend the time being hit over and over by a crew that has stock piled peaceballs, sleep balls, jigballs and stand no chance in defending my ship.

I was expecting to HATE this new system after reading all the posts before I played but I am actually fine with it. There's more resources per barrel so it's really not that much slower to stock up. There's a bit of an issue trying to get stuff out quickly and getting knocked off the barrels though.

Definitely not a fan with this new option. You have introduced a feature that causes an interruption into the flow of the game!

In the middle of a fight, running around the barrels and grabbing a quick banana to refuel in a fight was a necessity. Now, you just stop in place and allow your opponent to catch you - even worse when you find your barrel is empty and you've come to a stop for no reason!

I personally couldn't care less about the cursed cannonballs. After the event is over it's unlikely that I'll even use them again (exception of the anchor ball), given how cumbersome they are to use. If you have to change the inventory system for these, just give us a barrel 2.0 specifically for these cursed cannonballs; there are enough cosmetic barrels already you could reuse... and more than enough space when you remove the waste of space on a sloop (The brig!).

Grudgingly, PC players now have yet another advantage over console players when accessing this inventory. It's far easier and faster for them to select the ball they want. I don't know how you could address this so this is just a comment in frustration.

• Barrels 2.0 cause a delay in fights; return the 'Take one' option without having to open the inventory.
• Barrels 2.0 cause a waste of time when they are empty - return the 'Empty' status of barrels, or show the contents 'Bananas + 1 more';
• Barrels 2.0 cause a delay when loading supplies - return the ability to load the item you are holding into the barrel;
• If you had to change the inventory system for cursed cannonballs alone, then restore the barrel 1.0 for other items, and leave us with a new barrel 2.0 for cursed cannonballs.

• Side note to console players; you have 2 controller buttons that are not mapped. If you go into settings and control, you can map the cannonballs to either LD or RD and this cycles through all types of cannonballs and you can bypass the ridiculous 3 screens that you have to go through to get to them.

Stocking the ship used to be tedious, but it was a labor of love. Now, stocking the ship makes me want to throw my mouse through the window. It's clunky and annoying. Sometimes I find myself frozen in place after closing a barrel. I have to jump or something to get unstuck. Ugh!

Barrels 2.0 are too slow and unnecessarily complicated. Please consider to go back to the previous system.

If I may provide some constructive criticism on the barrels one of the top issues for players ATM. See if the first slot in the barrel can be a quick grab slot. Keeping the good ol feel to grabbing supplies and rewarding those who take the risk of opening the barrels. Once the quick slot empties it must be changed or if there is more of the same item in other slots it automatically jumps to the quick slot.

This system is nonesense. No need to add more since people already told you what is wrong with it.

You should revert back to the old system and start thinking about something because this show a big lack of work coming from Rare.

There is litterally nothing justifying such a big gameplay sacrifice, not even new item types.

I stand by the main point of what I said: Switch the wood, banana, and regular cannonball barrels back to normal. Use the god awful menu for the rest of the barrels on the ship, which will hold the cursed cannonballs and all the other TBA items.

11 cursed cannonball types, bananas, planks, regular cannonballs plus the possibility of animal skins, different food/weapon types, crafting materials and you want a barrel for each one rather than push an extra button? An inventory system is exactly what they need otherwise we’ll be on the sea of barrels

The worst part is that those overpowered cursed cannonballs can be found .... ON OUTPOSTS???

What the hell are you thinking Rare? These should be OCCASIONAL...
I have no idea where you are going with this!

You spent 3 years developping a game that was dynamic and fluid. You spent 3 years optimizing ships for battle and now you're destroying all of it!

!!!! where are you ???

"CAN YOU HEAR ME!?"

Barrel 2.0 is a terrible decision!!!
Red flag is also not good idea!!! I started playing and I see that two ships with red flags just controling all OUTPOSTS collecting cursed cannonballs!!! And there is no option to players to sell their stuff because Brig that controls outpost is loaded with CURSED CANNONBALLS THAT DROPS YOUR ANCOR!!!! How can I play on SLOOP??? Me and my companion cannot resist BRIG WITH 3 people and CURSED CANNONBALLS!!!

We had fights with SKELLY SHIPS with these CUSRED CANNONBALLS, but now the event ended and there is NO NEED IN CURSED CANNONBALLS.

PLEASE LEAVE ONLY REGULAR CANNONBALLS AND TAKE OFF RED FLAG.

before this update game was both comfortable for PVP and PVE (not perfect but you had chance to avoid ships).

Now I even don't take tasks because there is no chance to finish it.

GAME became agressive PVP with CURSED CANNONBALLS!!!

Also I don't understand why by pressing menu first page shows what kind of inventory I have (compass, bucket, watches, shotgun and etc.) As if I don't know what I have. Is it has sense???

I press menu just to see my level and achievements!!! Now I need to press RB twice to see it!!!

PERFECT UPDATE!!! THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED WITH GAME.

The "Barrel 2.0" loot/inventory system is a great idea on paper and much needed due to new inventory and loot types being added (and potentially more in the future). However, the current implementation feels rather awkward and borderline frustrating, it's simply not fun (Design reminder: Games are supposed to be fun!). It takes away from the flow of the game as it feels just bad and not fun, especially when you are looting floating barrels, barrels on islands when running away from multiple skeletons, looting in skeleton forts, picking up things quickly on your ship so you can use them, etc..

Thus I have come up with the following couple of small suggestions which in my opinion, will greatly improve the Barrel 2.0 system:
1. Add the old key/button press for taking things out of barrels/storing things in barrels and making it a "Loot All" and "Store All" key/button press (This should be an optional/additional way to loot/store barrels, you could still do it manually item by item like you can now in the original "Barrel 2.0" system).
1.1. Pressing the "Loot All" key/button at a barrel will make you instantly pick up all of the things in the barrel you have room for in your inventory (limits apply, what you can't carry is being left inside the barrel to be picked up later).
1.1. **Pressing the "Store All" key/button at a barrel will make you instantly store all the items you have that can be put into that type of barrel (checks which and how many items a barrel can take and only stores those, leaving the rest in the inventory).

2. Mark empty barrels with the word "Empty" and possibly a different text/silhouette color than full ones when you look at it (maybe even make empty barrels gray in texture or something and turn them nice and brown when there is something in them if that's an option?).

3. Change the inventory slots and barrel slots when you open a barrel to a different color/shade so you can instantly see via color code which is the inventory and which the barrel. I'd suggest leaving the Inventory slot color as it (since it's the same in the inventory menu as well) is and changing the barrel inventory slot colors to a distinctive, bright hue.
Personally, I find the Inventory being on the left side and the barrel contents on the right side to be unintuitive and would like it to be switched, but color coding them to make it clear which is which should be good enough.

5. On the Windows PC, allow items to be dragged and dropped from inventory to barrel using the mouse (also on Xbox One if a mouse is connected to the console).

I think the above tweaks would make the new "Barrel 2.0" loot/inventory system very enjoyable instead of the awkward and borderline frustrating feel it has now and it would actually feel like a fun upgrade to the 1.0 system in terms of practicability and enjoyability.

Addendum: Please translate the barrel names on the Ships (on the land they are translated properly) in the German language version (and possibly other languages) of the client.

It's probably been said dozens of times already, but it would be nice if you can see what's in a barrel just by hovering over it, like this:

Saves a lot of unnecessary annoyance when you're gathering supplies on an island and you're the 3rd person from your crew to check/open the same empty barrel.

Also when you are taking the items from the barrel, it would be nice if it automatically jumps to the next item when one is emptied or your inventory is full of that item. It does do that when you are dumping your cannonballs in the barrel on your ship, when you have depleted your ordinary cannonballs, it automatically selects the cursed cannonballs in your inventory and continues dumping those in the barrel.

Last it would be nice if you are putting (for instance) banana's in the barrel on your ship, that you do not have to scroll past the planks and cannonballs in your inventory before you get to the banana's. Just show us only the items that can actually be stored in that barrel (bananas for the food barrel, wood for the wood barrels and cannonballs for the cannonball barrels)

I like it.
With some parctice it's almost as fast as before. We cleared off a bunch of skelly ships yesterday in our brig without sinking.
A couple of tweaks though:

1. Seperate buttons for filling and looting would speed up things.
2. An indication of weather a barrel is
   empty or not seems essential.

Would be good to still see the barrel contents when running past the Barrel/s, this would save time stopping at that barrel if it's contents had something you didn't even need.