please level lock athena gear.

and? They did the missions they should get to wear the gear.

Yeah I’m not even pirate legend yet but I think how it works right now is unfair.

Pirate legend stuff for pirate legends!

@l-mrmoonlight-l dijo en please level lock athena gear.:

There are low levels already at lvl 10 athena and they dont even need to reach pirate legend to equip it.

And why my low lvl gunner cant wear like all the crew only for not buying the game at the same time if she's just better than half my crew shooting? Just because she dont picked enough white chikens?

Athena gear is for everyone who does athena missions, lower levels still cant wear the purple set as that is legend exclusive, even tho it may be a very ugly set haha

I was always under the impression the Legend outfit was what you get for being Legend this then opens up Athena which is able to be shared with all fresh and seasoned pirates alike.
In this respect the system is working as intended imo it is one to be shared with others.

Hell why not tie Athena rep to the person that turns in the chest only as well as tie it to faction lvls maxed and Legend status gained also not allow Legends to let non Legends in the Athena's Fortune hideout or even be on an Athena voyage.
(this is sarcasm)

I get what the OP is saying in the fact not having the Athena gear tied to Faction lvl 50 like the Legend items seems to lessen the overall associated feeling of worth for having earnt the set though.
Maybe an entirely new locked to Legend status mission set and or cosmetics would help this issue but i'm not sure locking the Athena items away from non maxed pirates is the way to go.

@amancebacabras dijo en please level lock athena gear.:

@l-mrmoonlight-l dijo en please level lock athena gear.:

There are low levels already at lvl 10 athena and they dont even need to reach pirate legend to equip it.

And why my low lvl gunner cant wear like all the crew only for not buying the game at the same time if she's just better than half my crew shooting? Just because she dont picked enough white chikens?

The thing is that everyone, not just your low level gunner, can do it by just joining a crew which is doing athenas voyages.

By the last thing you said, I could also say “I’m better than the majority of legends so the game needs to deposit me a million gold as legends have even more”. There should be a path for gaining the stuff in an order.

@l-mrmoonlight-l Currently this is how it is, you can join in and earn Athena rep just not gain access to any of the cosmetics associated with it until you either reach Legend yourself or another Legend grants you access. Ergo locked to Legend but shareable to all.

With the addition of the alliance system i thought i heard you will be able to drop an Athena voyage for any other crew in the server, this(if true) will further cement shared Athena rep etc.

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@xxx1ra1xxx said in please level lock athena gear.:

@amancebacabras dijo en please level lock athena gear.:

@l-mrmoonlight-l dijo en please level lock athena gear.:

There are low levels already at lvl 10 athena and they dont even need to reach pirate legend to equip it.

And why my low lvl gunner cant wear like all the crew only for not buying the game at the same time if she's just better than half my crew shooting? Just because she dont picked enough white chikens?

The thing is that everyone, not just your low level gunner, can do it by just joining a crew which is doing athenas voyages.

By the last thing you said, I could also say “I’m better than the majority of legends so the game needs to deposit me a million gold as legends have even more”. There should be a path for gaining the stuff in an order.

And you can get to pirate legend by just joining a crew, just like the first pirate legend. Whats your point?

What’s yours? It’s easy to notice the difference, if you can get to pirate legend by joining a crew, you are not skipping steps.
Now, if you get to athenas max level by joining a crew before becoming pirate legend that means you are skipping steps, because athenas is after reaching pirate legend.

@l-mrmoonlight-l By this logic those who haven't hit 50/50/50 shouldn't be able to assist with Athena's voyages. Or if they do they don't deserve reward because.... they haven't leveled enough? This logic is flawed. There are level 50 exclusives they are as follows in the current state of the game:

• Level 50 pirate clothing of a purple color.
• Level 50 ship livery also purchased but only once your level 50.
• Immediate access to the hideout - a benefit which is currently function-less overall.
• The Pirate Legend title.
• Ability to purchase Athena's voyages, part of the PL Hideout as above.
• The Shanty playable in the tavern which requires a PL to at least begin the shanty.

The above list are the rewards for becoming a pirate legend. The above are what you gain for all your hard work. Is it enough? Should the list be expanded? These are questions that make sense.

But the reward for voyage participation is the Athena's reputation. If you commit to helping you get rewarded both cash and reputation. Once that is accomplished you can buy the gear so long as you can get access to the tavern to buy the gear. What value would the reputation be without the loot to buy from it?

Why is it like this?

To promote the desire to play alongside legends. To reward the play of those who play alongside legends. That's it.

People, such as those who might posit threads like this, clearly misunderstand what Athena's voyage rewards are. They are rewards for doing Athena's voyages. They have, and never were intended to have, any connection to being a pirate legend excepting that only PL can buy the voyages. The opening comments are right, as are some others, in the tone suggesting that even at level 10 Athena's you are not necessarily a PL. That's all that is correct though.

Rare mishandled Athena's in a sense because players clearly think that Athena's has something relevant to do with legendary status. It doesn't.

Simply reaching level 50 grants the status. All it takes to be a PL is reaching level 50... getting level 10 Athena's doesn't make someone more legendary. Reaching level 10 in Athena's only means you finished a voyage series...big deal...yay you... who cares? Athena's only advertises that you've done Athena's voyages either by knowing or helping others on Athena's voyages, or possibly because you are also at rank 50/50/50/X yourself.

The biggest failing is for those who've committed to finishing Athena's before reaching 50 then having nothing left to 'grind' once they reach 50. Because in perspective of the content level of the game at current.... the grind is the only carrot we've got. But that shall likely change over time.

We need more content for post 50 that is post 50 exclusive, I can agree with this. I can also agree that there could logically be a recolor or similar element in the Athena's (And other clothes) that might help distinguish those who have maxed out the grind versus those who might not have hit PL status. But content locking the Athena's reward from those who haven't also hit level 50 is ridiculous. Athena's has nothing to do with PL and never has... players perspectives have made that connection... but it's misguided.

@blooddoll22 All is about the last thing you said, if Athena’s has nothing to do with Pirate Legend, why PL is a step to reach Athena’s? So if athenas has nothing to do with PL it should be totally separate, what here is not fair is that some people needed to reach this step, some others didn’t, so it should be the same for everyone, it should be that this step is required for everyone or not required for anyone, why some people need this step but some others skip it without an effort? That’s the issue.

Just my two cents:

The reward for helping a Legend should be the faction rep gains you get by doing the voyages - these are, obviously, not given to the Legend. Athena Rep, in my opinion, should be restricted to Legends... lower level still get the gold reward. It is odd that someone can level up Athena without first becoming a Legend.

The incentive for helping a Legend should be the multiple faction rep gain without having to pay for voyages. The same as it is for doing any voyages bought by a pirate of a higher faction level than you.

Restricting Athena rep to Legends would also mean speed runs with non-Legends would be a thing of the past. No incentive for non-Legends to participate if they don’t get the rewards. With Alliances coming up, this would be a good thing, IMO.

Everyone’s journey in the game is their own and it’s all cosmetics in the end. But, I also understand the notion of making PL something special and locking Legend gear behind that wall would be a start. I thought the whole point of the Legend ship cosmetics was to be able to show off Legend status, but if you can buy it as a non-Legend, it loses that meaning. Now, you see a “Legend” ship and it doesn’t really mean anything. At least with the level locked cosmetics currently in the game, you know someone earned them... it actually means something. I feel the same should be true for Athena gear.

It's not really an exclusive thing for pirate legends. Athena's is more like an incentive for legends to work together with non legends.
Because you can get levels and rewards before you reach 50/50/50 it's more fun. You can be the legend (purple clothes and all) and your mates who aren't legend can be your ghost crew.

Be that social cool guy legend and get your friends a nice ghost outfit. Don't be a Leg-End and only sail with legends (unless all of your friends happen to be legends but don't blame non legends because they havent put as much time into the game as you).

I think you should put on the music ingame, If i Remeber correctly the song thats played every time you turn in a Athenas quest or open the hideout is:
"We shall sail togather"

So we shall share togather!

We just need more content to PL's. Athena for all ?- okey but there's need to be something special what only PL's can achieve.
Thats will solve this.

@bran-the-ent said in please level lock athena gear.:

Just my two cents:

The reward for helping a Legend should be the faction rep gains you get by doing the voyages - these are, obviously, not given to the Legend. Athena Rep, in my opinion, should be restricted to Legends... lower level still get the gold reward. It is odd that someone can level up Athena without first becoming a Legend.

The incentive for helping a Legend should be the multiple faction rep gain without having to pay for voyages. The same as it is for doing any voyages bought by a pirate of a higher faction level than you.

If you're doing it for the rep grind to 50, doing AF voyages is a terrible advice once you're past 30-35.

Restricting Athena rep to Legends would also mean speed runs with non-Legends would be a thing of the past. No incentive for non-Legends to participate if they don’t get the rewards. With Alliances coming up, this would be a good thing, IMO.

Everyone’s journey in the game is their own and it’s all cosmetics in the end. But, I also understand the notion of making PL something special and locking Legend gear behind that wall would be a start. I thought the whole point of the Legend ship cosmetics was to be able to show off Legend status, but if you can buy it as a non-Legend, it loses that meaning. Now, you see a “Legend” ship and it doesn’t really mean anything. At least with the level locked cosmetics currently in the game, you know someone earned them... it actually means something. I feel the same should be true for Athena gear.

PL is nothing special, not in the slightest. It's like reaching max level in WoW, everyone gets there eventually. I don't see why PL should be something special because there is no accomplishment in it besides time spent.

Locking AF rep behind PL defeats the incentive to play with PL as a non-PL.
Locking the ghost cloth behind PL, but not the rep, just puts the carrot on a too long stick. I mean instead of a "nice treat" once in a while when doing the AF grind with a PL (as long as you like that gear at all), people will get bored and stop. Those who stick it out buy everything at once, which makes it feel more grindy and reduces the moments that make people feel it was worth it.

I don't have or wear any of the Athena gear because I think it's ugly and played out. All Legends just look alike. Pretty boring to me.

That said, it should be exclusive to Legends. If you are a Legend and don't like seeing non-legends wearing the Athena gear then only do the Athena quests with other legends.