So rare is going to be adding a gold fee for when you die increasing the cost at the stupidity of your death

  • SPLATULATED
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    And considering snakes do the least amount of damage

    I have to assume getting killed by a snake will bankrupt a player that doesn't have 2 billion gold because it is the absolute most avoidable thing since the do next to no damage

    Also

    I'm to assume this will bring in a new form of griefing where 4 player crews will board a 1-2 player crew and spawn kill them until they lose millions of gold or even go negative so they cant earn future gold

    We should petition to not have a gold fee for death added it just pours salt into the wound for being killed repeatedly

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/release-notes

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  • Shokugeki Kid

    VERY BAD idea i think so too!

  • Sytoki
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    Where did you hear this and when is it being implemented?

  • SPLATULATED
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    @elite-assasin87 said in So rare is going to be adding a gold fee for when you die increasing the cost at the stupidity of your death:

    Where did you hear this and when is it being implemented?

    Rare's own YouTube channel

  • Sytoki
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    @splatulated Sorry I’m having a hard time finding something like that what was the title of the video?

  • MrI1ama

    @elite-assasin87 https://www.seaofthieves.com/release-notes bottom of the notes, I think this will be a terrible idea for the record

  • TangoLit

    I've heard them discuss the idea (once), but never indicate that it was actually happening. Link it please.

  • Shokugeki Kid

    "Death Cost – This new feature has the Captain of the Ferry of the Damned deduct a small gold fee when you die. Rates are dependant on the cause of death, so the more avoidable the death, the less patience the Captain will have when we enable this feature!"

  • TangoLit

    @mri1ama Thank you for the link.

    Terrible idea.

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  • davejc64
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    So how will they decide how avoidable death was? LOL

  • Sytoki
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    @mri1ama Yeah lol people are not gonna be happy with that. I can see where the devs are coming from, probably thought of it as a way to make skeleton forts more difficult since they’re a breeze atm, this would make players be more cautious instead of dying a million times(im talking about myself) but i can see how it can be abused by crews. I’m assuming that ships don’t have coats and that player deaths by players probably is the least costly, hopefully more people learn about scuttling when this comes out.

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  • ZetsubouKibo
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    OMG, THIS IS SO STUPID.

    @Rare-Employee You guys do realize if you release this, people will keep killing players till they get bankrupt right?
    This is a dumb move. Who thought of this idea?

    How about this, instead when you die in ship to ship combat you start with a new crew? So that make ship combat more interesting. Well in my opinion, Add this in the realistic game mode please but don't put in the Death Cost. That's just stupid and it will make griefing worse.

  • VooDoo IC0N
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    @splatulated
    Yeah I don't see that happening. Where did this load of malarkey come from?

  • FuzzyPyrate
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    ....and what happens if a player has no gold? Does the ferryman take IOU's, credit cards maybe? lol!

  • FuzzyPyrate
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    @voodoo-ic0n said in So rare is going to be adding a gold fee for when you die increasing the cost at the stupidity of your death:

    @splatulated
    Yeah I don't see that happening. Where did this load of malarkey come from?

    Go to this link https://www.seaofthieves.com/release-notes
    and scroll to the bottom - You will see this:

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  • BLOODFRENZY187
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    Whoever suggested this needs a good tar and feathering. Very dumb idea.

  • ZetsubouKibo
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    @Rare-Employee

    Please don't add this. This will be bad.

    Trust me, This will not end well.

  • VooDoo IC0N
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    @oneeyed-w1lliam
    Get the branding iron, I'll get a rope...

  • HobbyGG4017
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    It says "small" fee and add a little gold sink to the game. When u die without gold you will porbably just respawn without paying anything. Im not sure if this is the best way to punish stupidity, but when u make a very stupid move, yes you should feel some kind of punishment

  • Monkeychow01
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    I'm actually somewhat ok with this. But I see how players who have a lot of gold won't care to die, and cause those of us with not a lot of gold to lost it quickly if you lost a lot with PvP deaths. But fall damage, snakes etc. That makes sense to take a good amount of gold. Probably more an interesting mechanic once more things are added to the game though. Because at least right now you're not going to save gold all that quickly with most items costing a lot.

  • AAmusavu

    well, we will be sinking all 1 man ships after that for sure now l**o

  • saladbrains
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    @dennis-box the gold sink is items costing 10x what they did in beta.

    this is only going to encourage griefing/spawn-camping and killing/hunting of players. good luck with the 'ten year' plan Rare.

  • subaqueousReach
    Ship Mate

    I just checked the official patch notes.

    Given that most quests only reward between 200 to 1000 gold, and the cosmetic unlocks cost anywhere from 1000 to 70,000 gold, this seems like a horrible idea to implement. Especially since it's not a guarantee you'll earn the money from the quests, since other players can kill you and take your loot. At that point you're just losing gold.

    It looks like they're just trying to find a way to extend playtime of the content they currently have rather than add any new content.

    I like the game and can see it doing really well, but this is a very, very dumb move on their part and I really hope it's not actually implemented.

  • EndoSku11
    Founder

    Wow.
    I thought you were joking.

    Nope. This should not happen - the missions are already a grind without losing gold to death.

    Unless the death gold goes into a pot and the one that dies in the most "unavoidable" way gets the pot :-P

  • Joda1123
    Ship Mate

    where did they say that?

  • SPLATULATED
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    @joda1123 said in So rare is going to be adding a gold fee for when you die increasing the cost at the stupidity of your death:

    where did they say that?

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/release-notes

  • Capn Tonis
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    I don't think this is the right move at all. Hunters will continue killing the same people just to make them lose more gold. Players who take on high level OOS quests for instance may lose more gold than gain sometimes, if they die. High gold players will not care at all about how they die so will continue to do things like sail straight back for you over and over like I talked about in another thread.

    All around, I don't think this is a very welcome change.

  • LaughsManiacaly
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    As this states the price will go up for how avoidable the death was can i assume that if i am killed by another player whilst my sword is not drawn then i could not have avoided that outcome and therefore should pay no fee

    OR

    Are we literally just giving up with creative thinking and saying hey if they want to grief you 4 vs 1 than thats cool, you should suffer because you're weak.

    IF this MUST be added then to balance gains and difficulty the chest values should be scaled up and their turn in value should be divisible by the current crew.

  • DustOfTheDeath
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    I only hear blaming in here.
    There is no information given, how much gold you will be charged.
    I dont think that this idea is bad, to pay the ferry man.
    And i dont think they wont charge you that much (or even anything) if you get killed right after respawning.

    Avoidable deaths would be jumping down somewhere, drowning, kill yourself with shooting yourseld somewhere, things like that.

  • HONUSDAN

    Someone needs to be fired for even suggesting this. Someone else needs to be fired for prioritizing this as an update over adding a friend while already in the server.

  • davejc64
    Founder

    @a-trusty-mango said in So rare is going to be adding a gold fee for when you die increasing the cost at the stupidity of your death:

    This is excellent. I am excited. Finally.

    Real risk.

    Oooo you rebel you!

  • SnowBodhi

    I shared this with our crew this morning and no one seems to think this is a good idea so far.

    After being relentlessly chased and spawn camped, chased and spawn camped by the same ship FOR AN HOUR last night I’d hate to see an additional penalty for death. We would have quit but we had chests we couldn’t cash in.

    The worst thing about it was not once did they take the chests. They weren’t interested in our money, just ruining our night.

    Still love this game but that was not fun and I’d hate to have had an additional penalty on top.

  • BAKAsama83
    Marauder

    sigh more whining i see..... Dont wanna pay then git gud n dont die

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