Pipes/smoking

@mastermepete said in Pipes/smoking:

I would love having a pipe being added. A propper pipe for the sailor esthetic or if you are living the life of a proper fisherman. An additional fun feature would be if you could find 'funky' tobacco or other smokable stuff that could get you [mod edit], as an alternative to grog. Anyways it would be a really cool item for when your a having a quit time, sailling the beautiful seas of thieves.

And those suggestions would get the game banned in many countries.

What if the pipes blew bubbles?

@biter-wylie said in Pipes/smoking:

Will never happen shipmate. This is a game designed also for young children.

We already have drinking. They might as well let us smoke and gamble (let us play poker dang it!)

There have been a few heated debates on this over the years.

I do not think this should be added to the game as it is a disgusting habit that needs to be purged from society. Historical or not, players do not need that sort of a controllable experience. Passive interactions is one thing like cutsecenes or NPC use, but definitely not for the players themselves.

Last game that I remember that had the player smoking was metal gear solid.

@archangel-timmy Just saying you sound like a zealot with your view on it. I mean seriously "purged from society"? Next will be the demand that they remove grog while shrieking "think of the children!" Smoking fits into the pirate world as does gambling and card games.

@archangel-timmy said in Pipes/smoking:

There have been a few heated debates on this over the years.

I do not think this should be added to the game as it is a disgusting habit that needs to be purged from society. Historical or not, players do not need that sort of a controllable experience. Passive interactions is one thing like cutsecenes or NPC use, but definitely not for the players themselves.

But you are all fine with the consumption of alcohol for players, cause that is not a bad habit that has a historical background?

@sargent-sully Don't Fish!! u are killing fishes!! Let's ban fishiiing! How can we have that horrible feature in this game!!!!???? OMG U ALSO KILL MEGALODOOONS!!! REPORT. (HAHAHAHAAHAHA, just joking maate.)
Everyone needs to chill, smoke is disgusting, yes (I never smoked and never will), but its a game... We are not saying to put some "hard drugs into this game", is just a pipe. Also if kids play the game, can't they just limit thoose kind of items for adults? Im not sure if they get that info from our profiles or something (age info)...Btw I totally understand they won't put it cuz of those rules against smoking, and making references on games.

We are using a keg to blow up a ship, and that doesnt mean im gonna put some bomb in someones boat in real life... People need to understand what a game is... and stop mixing them with the reality. Of Course it need measures so kids dont get influenced but it is just a game! We all HAVE, or someones at least... SHOULD have a Brain, use it, and think. Not always it's videogame's fault!

Yeehaaa!!
Spreaad the cursee in the seaaas!

I'm not a fan of smoking tobacco in real life (I cannot stand to be around it), but I'm fine with it in my pirate games. :D
I think it would fit into Sea of Thieves very well, but that's just my causal vote of approval.

It would be great if you could sabotage your crew-mate's pipe by sprinkling a little gunpowder into it, to make it explode next time they light it.

@musicmee of course sry

@vbaxjoker1073 said in Pipes/smoking:

@biter-wylie said in Pipes/smoking:

Will never happen shipmate. This is a game designed also for young children.

And no it isn't designed for kids if it was it wouldn't be T for TEEN

And teens are also not legally allowed to smoke (well buy tobacco actually), so no need to encourage such behavior.

@cotu42 said in Pipes/smoking:

@archangel-timmy said in Pipes/smoking:

There have been a few heated debates on this over the years.

I do not think this should be added to the game as it is a disgusting habit that needs to be purged from society. Historical or not, players do not need that sort of a controllable experience. Passive interactions is one thing like cutsecenes or NPC use, but definitely not for the players themselves.

But you are all fine with the consumption of alcohol for players, cause that is not a bad habit that has a historical background?

This is a non-argument as Grog is already part of the game.

By this logic they should be okay with adding brothels, slavery, R/P/P, and how about limiting Female Pirates to a max of 1 per server and force them to where men's clothes?

@sargent-sully said in Pipes/smoking:

@archangel-timmy Just saying you sound like a zealot with your view on it. I mean seriously "purged from society"? Next will be the demand that they remove grog while shrieking "think of the children!" Smoking fits into the pirate world as does gambling and card games.

Call me what you will, smoking has no place this day and age. It is slowly being pushed out, and does not need to be promoted in any capacity.

Grog isn't part of the argument here as it is already part of the game. There are other elements of piracy that fit historically, and also have no place within this game.

@bugaboo-bill Parents relying on others is only part of the problem, and a minor one at that. There are many many reasons why the world is moving away from smoking as a norm, and it doesn't need to be perpetuated and glamorized in amy capacity, especially with direct control to the player.

You sourced some classic media many of us grew up with, and I don't feel this helps your argument for allowing it. If anything, it works against it as it highlights the shift in what is acceptable with society as you rarely see this sort of material whether it is permitted or not.

There is also a difference between a passive interaction (watching), and direct interaction (controlling) when it comes to content like this.

@mastermepete I think an alternative to grog is great and adds more depth to the world. Little things like that give even more immersion that you're just a regular pirate.

@archangel-timmy said in Pipes/smoking:

@cotu42 said in Pipes/smoking:

@archangel-timmy said in Pipes/smoking:

There have been a few heated debates on this over the years.

I do not think this should be added to the game as it is a disgusting habit that needs to be purged from society. Historical or not, players do not need that sort of a controllable experience. Passive interactions is one thing like cutsecenes or NPC use, but definitely not for the players themselves.

But you are all fine with the consumption of alcohol for players, cause that is not a bad habit that has a historical background?

This is a non-argument as Grog is already part of the game.

By this logic they should be okay with adding brothels, slavery, R/P/P, and how about limiting Female Pirates to a max of 1 per server and force them to where men's clothes?

The point you are making is that bad habits within our society should not be included in games, as it sets a bad example and we would be better without it.

I am just pointing out that the game already has them in the game, therefore making a big issue with smoking because of it being a bad habit has less merit and isn't seen by many as a big issue (most people have tried smoking at some point in their life or still do it to some degree).

They are both bad habits and should be treated equally if you ask me. If this was a principle issue, the suggestion can also be made to remove grog from the game or replace it with something else.

However you instead are going even further and setting the behavior of smoking in the same category as slavery, inequality in treatment of people and discrimination because of the fact it happened in history? Which wasn't the main point being made. Also I do not see a link of mistreatment of others and unhealthy personal habits.

In the mean time you are defending the drinking of alcohol, cause it is already part of the game or is it because it is more acceptable by your personal standards? If they add smoking to the game, would you suddenly think it is a good or correct addition?

For me it is one and the same, if one is unacceptable than both should be and visa versa. Because like it or not they are both socially acceptable unhealthy actions people can indulge in. I hope people will do only once they did some research, are an adult and know what toxins they are putting into their bodies before even considering the action.

You are being hypocritical about the situation and are trying to build a case by dragging unrelated horrible things into the mix by trying to create an association with the one, but not the other? If the act of smoking is in that category, the same goes for drinking. Even though for me personally those actions you mention are in a totally different category.

@quietrobot said in Pipes/smoking:

Can you kill every pirate of Sea Of Thieves... but smoking? ohhh that's bad! 😄

Can we really say we are "killing" them? All we know for sure is they are being sent to the ferry, and they are allowed to return. Perhaps all pirates are saved on the brink of death and transported to the ferry in their astral form while their body is being rejuvenated and relocated? The pirates in the Hideout were perhaps beyond saving or opted to move on or stay behind. There isn't a whole lot of detail in this regard

The only true killing in this game is with the pigs, chickens, snakes, sharks, and perhaps the Meg which moves and blinks until it despawns.

This was a real sailors habit, hopefully Rare surprises us and add it (ignoring all hypocrisy). Let's not stop asking to be added.

There were many habits or common practices that were deemed acceptable at the time, but are now 100% illegal. Should we expect those to be added as well?

In fact, they have it planned from very advanced stages of the game.

Having them on a character model doesn't mean it is planned for players. Perhaps they are intended for NPC use?

Passive interaction is completely different than direct interaction. Why pipes and such with so many negative connotations? Why not settlenfornfiddling with a toothpick or piece of straw?