Fort of the Damned and Crossplay

@stone0898

Not really an increase in the crossplay threads, just the same few people making another thread about how they should be able to kick out the good PC players and all of the other, less good PC players and do the entire 50 completions in a day.

@tak225

Yes, you are, because most if not all of your complaints amount to "I died to this player and they were on PC, therefore PC has an unfair advantage", followed by your refusal to see where you went wrong in the battle. The other players aren't the ones with issues needing solving, you are. You must learn from your mistakes, and rise in skill, as the player who just killed you in under a minute did so long ago. You don't think his skill really just comes from his keyboard, do you? If so, get one yourself, and see how it doesn't.

@stone0898

Everyone that makes a thread about crossplay are usually 1 and done posts.

Pc doesn't really have an advantage and a majority of the fighting starts off ship first.

Cannons, rotation, positioning, guarding your ladders. This is all the same, exactly the same, whether you are on PC or xbox.

The fact that you already messed up by letting someone onto your ship by not guarding the latter is your fault.

The fact that you left your ship anchored with the sails down pointing towards the fort is your fault.

The fact that you weren't on the ship to defend it when a ship rolled up is your fault.

The fact that you didn't have a lookout on your ship while doing a very highly contested event is your fault.

The fact that you had tayler swift playing in the background so you couldn't hear someone swimming up to your boat is your fault.

I've played with xbox players A LOT and a majority of you guys are lazy, bad, and just plain out childish. I've constantly gotten angry because anytime we are doing ANYTHING every single person is off ship, doing whatever it is on the island.

I end up noticing everyone is off ship and I get frustrated wondering WHY no one is on the ship being lookout.

"Why is no one on the boat?" - "OH man don't worry there are no other ships har har har har"

or

"Why arent the sails up and why is the anchor down?" - "Man we are fine, stop being so paranoid HAR HAR HAR HAR"

This one I especially love the most

"Hey do you guys think we should turn in, you know, since NONE of you like to PvP??" - "NOOOOOO, its faster to just hoard all the treasure and turn in at the end!!" - "But you guys clearly told me you all suck at PvP......." - "MY SHIP MY RULES MAN!!!!"

Never had to deal with this on the RARE occasion I get to play with another PC player, my crew (which are on xbox), or the actual xbox player who doesn't complain about supposed witch magic of the M&K.

Xbox players are mostly casual players. Its not key and mouse, its not the capabilities of the hardware. Its the effort of the actual player.

Pc players in generally are try hards. Xbox players are in general casuals.

A lot of you are just bad, not because you can't learn or actually be good. Its just that you don't want to actually put in any semblance of EFFORT. Thats it.

We say to "git gud" because you need to put in more effort. Work together, be communicative. WATCH YOUR FREAKING BOAT. DO THINGS TO PROTECT YOURSELVES.

Look at that, a player from both sides of the coin suggests, in their experience, that everything apart from pvp is fine on the Xbox, but they switch to pc when pvp is intended. Followed by all the regulars explaining why this is wrong, or how consolers are lazy/bad.

@Xultanis-Dragon yes those things you listed are terribly bad, but what about the Xbox users in these threads that arent trash, and do play the game well?

I for one agree with @Stone0898
I've played both platforms and the difference is quite evident, even though im a bit rusty with kbm.

@Xultanis-Dragon
This is what 'get good' really means. Thank you.
@PomalotacusMk3 I'm one of those 'good' XBox players, I don't complain about crossplay. Most good XBox players don't, they just keep all players off of their ship regardless of platform.

@jetorchidee97 said in Fort of the Damned and Crossplay:

https://twitter.com/Jibrann/status/1185685168494768128

That's coming from a very good PVP PC player, he's quite known in the community for his skills I think. I read it in comments from a recent tweet from the official SOT twitter.

Saying that, we all know that not everybody are that good but it only needs one encounter to make the experience of SoT a bit bitter.

I also understand that not all PC players want/need to be that good and would be destroyed the same way as an Xbox player. Nevertheless a good portion of Xbox players didn't pay a console, a monthly fee to play online to experience that. As

Saying that an XBox player can't track that is wrong, though. I play on XBox, I have my sensitivity set very high but I move the stick very little in normal play. If someone's behind me, I can turn just as fast as a PC player. Sure, I can't perfectly line up on a button on their jacket like some PC players can, but I'm just not as good at PvP as those players in general anyways. Of course, should someone manage to sneak up with a blunderbuss, or snipe me from low health, turning speed doesn't matter, but all players die the same at that point.

@Violet-OddSauce
Your repeated insistence of this feature isn't going to help. You are one player among millions, and most of those millions haven't exactly been campaigning for an opt-out. They've been too busy enjoying the game as it is.

@Suffer951
Those streamers saying that is worth about as much as the people here who claim they'll leave if the opt-out isn't implemented. Chances are they won't, and on the off chance that they do, they're one lost among many, and they'll be replaced.

@ultmateragnarok said in Fort of the Damned and Crossplay:

Saying that an XBox player can't track that is wrong, though. I play on XBox, I have my sensitivity set very high but I move the stick very little in normal play. If someone's behind me, I can turn just as fast as a PC player.

Same here. I see nothing special about their clip. Just some guy gettin circles run around him. I do this everytime i play on xbox.

@tak225
Most are minorities here. The majority of people who play don't use the forums, many don't even know they exist. Those who fight for crossplay here are a minority. Those who fight against crossplay are a minority. It doesn't matter that you're part of one, we all belong to one or another. As for the 'fake reasons' I, as an assumed PC player (I'm not, by the way, so get it out of your head that all XBox players want to lose crossplay and all PC players want to keep it), don't come up with things off of the top of my head just to rebuttal an argument I've had many times before. I don't know if you do, and I don't care if that's your plan, I only care about the argument you use, and if you want to convince yourself that everyone else is wrong and whine into the void then you can. The mixed pool is fine, however isolating a section of the community, specifically those PC players who aren't the top tier with their thousand dollar supercomputers and a lifetime of gaming giving immensely quick reaction times (the top tier representing perhaps 1% out of the 30% that are PC), isn't fair to them. You'll have to just put up with that person on their 15 year old family computer with a keyboard that is missing it's 'D' key and a mouse that only registers half of it's clicks being supposedly OP because you decided leaving your ship pointed at an island with it's anchor and sails down, so that when you have to get out because you didn't see the ship that was approaching for the past 5 minutes you have to slowly raise the anchor and then end up hitting an island and sinking.

@suffer951 said in Fort of the Damned and Crossplay:

@violet-oddsauce

Well have fun waiting some more. Crossplay is the future of gaming whether you like it or not, streaming is way to lucrative now for gaming companies. Most streamers say that if they put the opt-out in they will not play the game, so obviously Rare and Microsoft will go where the money is.

Crossplay will only be the future if it is accepted by the console community.
If it is truly hated, then it will not be the future. And currently.. I love what crossplay can offer players.. But i dislike forced crossplay..
Optional choice is the keyword here as it is not a 50/50 scenario in 1v1 combat, and may never be.
So it is up to players to speak up about any feedback and concerns about this new direction their gaming platform is heading in.. Otherwise, as you say, developers will follow the money.

@pomalotacusmk3 said in Fort of the Damned and Crossplay:

Look at that, a player from both sides of the coin suggests, in their experience, that everything apart from pvp is fine on the Xbox, but they switch to pc when pvp is intended. Followed by all the regulars explaining why this is wrong, or how consolers are lazy/bad.

@Xultanis-Dragon yes those things you listed are terribly bad, but what about the Xbox users in these threads that arent trash, and do play the game well?

I for one agree with @Stone0898
I've played both platforms and the difference is quite evident, even though im a bit rusty with kbm.

Look if we ignore all the usual arguments the fact of the matter is that -

We have xbox players that say its fine
You have Pc players saying its not.

We each have both sides of the community saying our peace. I just don't believe opt out is the right direction period. I wouldn't mind playing with a controller, but again you guys would argue FPS.

If we take into account just basic human nature, the games cross play community will die with opt out. Its inevitable. (THANOS)

The split will happen slowly, as the influx of newer players enter in, it will happen more and more. Sooner or later its just going to be pure PC on one side and pure xbox on the other.

Now some individuals, as I won't name names, have said this is perfectly acceptable. They just refuse to play with PC.

Cross play is something that helps this game. Players argue and fight that PC is ruining their game time and its all PC faults but lets be honest. Is it REALLY??

You have your testimonies and I have mine. There are people who agree with you and there are people who agree with me, they each have their own testimonies.

I like this game for the cross play. I like this game for the community it has. I don't want to lose it. Opt out will kill it because again human nature. Its just how its going to happen.

If you are also okay with that then that means you were never going for "fairness" you just wanted to segregate PC from xbox.

@bugaboo-bill
Xbox players using a kbm already get separated, so problem solved.
Rare gives everyone blanket respawn times. SSD problem solved.
You buying XIM to cheat on Xbox servers....no one can fix your moral compass buddy. But thanks for letting us know that you need to cheat/have an advantage to enjoy the game.👍