@Lady-Aijou i dont know, but i already recognize derogative attempts.
Is SoT mainly a PvP game or is it a pirate adventure game with the possibility of PvP, but more like an option of player interaction and when pvp nit that serious hardcore e-sportish, but just casual fun PvP?
Since Anni Update, since Arena and since some popular Streamers introduced and made DG and other exploits and tuccing popular your game is regarding a "social experience" and having a fun pirate adventure going down.
I for myself think the Rocco debate and lot of other discussion and content that is created by really toxic gamers revealed the problem very clearly.
Rare opened that Box of Pandora and attracted these gamers and supported them.
Is content where pro players mock about kids or new players, less skilled players who get upset, because they get spawnkilled and be shown off good content?
Isn't it more toxic to show people off than someone getting upset when he got spawnkilled and maybe dont know he can scuttle, even if you can do it on the ferry meanwhile?
So lets say i know i'm above average and we go kill others, spawnkill until they get frustrated and say bad things. Who is more bad, the one with an authentic reaction or the one whos provoking it and then share it on YT or Twitch and show the other off and say look how toxic he or she is when he used bad words!? This PvE Lord Noob etc. Who is toxic then????
Rare allways tries to not make these gamers upset.
DG (without E) is the best evidence.
But what is it? Freedom?
No it only pleases a specific playstyle. There is nothing funny or piratish about DGing, but without it the fps gamers wont play and use it to reduce the ttk to 1.5s when a good and fun pirate fight should cconsistently of some shots and slashes etc...
Ok this is all subjective of course.
But if Rare cannot see where the problems come from, and the main problem comes from separating these groups and make us not all feel like PvEvPirates, but two opposing groups like in the title pve versus pvp. Bad !!!
I allways argued this way: it's PvEvP, the game want you to get loot and do PvE, but PvP is allways possible - remember uncertainty about other players.
All fine as long as people branch out into it in a balanced way.
Then extremes showed up, people started serverhopping to create premade alliances to avoid PvP.
PvPers start serverhopping for Forts to get into the action asap.
None of them was out for an unpredictable pirate adventure and Rare tried this and that, but never was clear or consequent about it.
And then they made Arena and then they did nothing about exploits for a long time and they partnered with streamers who are questionable at best and they allowed them to be really elitist and all that, not caring about or even not understanding the pirate code.
And the pirate code is important for all players having fun, for the inclusive character of the game, for the fun in general.
But if you attract E-Sport PvPers who have fun stomping others and want to win at any cost not caring for the other players experience you get exactly what you have today.
A megathread about it :-)
Rare would have to delete Arena, they would need to bring Sea dogs into Adventure maybe as opposition to RB, but still PvEvP and not PvP only and they would need to fix all exploits and force people to have an unpredictable pirate adventure and not serverhop to do PvP only or PvE only and whatever!
You would maybe lose 50% of the players, maybe even more, but tbh i would like to play it some more years but with likeminded pirates and i like also to fight them and have fun pvp, caring and beeing empathic pvp, not sweaty tryhards trashtalkers pvp. Means i dont spawnkill, i dont want them to ragequit, i dont harass people for the sake of it i dont stomp 4v1 on others if not neccessarily etc...
Not showing off others or call them noobs and pvelords. Every pirate who watch the Horizon for other players and ask himself what kind of pirates they might be is already PvPing!!!
But most pirates who focus on PvP are everything else but not that.
There are tons of foul apples.
YT and Twitch are full of them.
Main content is content making fun on others costs.
That's not playing together or against each other on a fun basis, that's just beeing an .... compensating something and pushing the ego and their ePeen.
It remind me of some Statements about SBMM.
Some say sbmm is bad, because they dont want to sweat all the time, they want to stomp noobs and casuals and relax while doing so.
This is the mentality you have a lot here with pvpers.
They want to stomp noobs. And this is the experience i make for over a year more and more. The numbers who aproach SoT like that have raised for sure.
Mostly my crew can fight these jerkish pirates off, but recently they made me also pause the game and give up my old pirate name i extra created for SoT.
I changed back to my original GT because SoT is not the game anymore i have that much fun with.
And that is not the games fault, it is the gamers gaming the system, the way the community have splitten up, the way most pvpers aproach it and the way people talked about the pirate code in the Rocco debate.
Since then, i say sorry i dont spent my time that much with a high chance to have player interactions of that "quality".
And it's not even fun to win against these pirates and send them to Davy Jones locker when most PvP encounter is against toxic jerks who serverhopped for sure. If you have a lot of experience in this game, I have something about 9.5 Million meters sailed, then you know who you fight and what you fight.
And the tuccers....
OMG seriously mostly they make me laugh and i cannot remember one beeing succesfull with me or my crew, but honestly.
It was funny but it got so old and ridiculous meanwhile.
Really people who login to tuck and think this is a fun playstyle.... all power to them, but in the eyes of some veteran players, you make you look like a fool.