Greater Rewards for Turning in OTHER pirate's treasure

@o-tickleghost-o Nice suggestion! I'd be all for this! (I'm pirate legend already, but I've still gotta earn that gold!)

A nice addition would also be a notification to the other crew you're selling their gold. When ship-naming comes in a future update, it could even be on that same notification, so they know who to fear who to seek revenge upon!

@thetwistedtaste I acc think that ship naming will come in FS! This sounds interesting, I wonder what this thread will come to.

@thetwistedtaste Haha! I love the idea of a notification and some sort of sad violin tune or something. I can just see the rage and suspicion when it happens. Though sometimes it's just as enjoyable to know that they are just searching their ship wondering what happened. That's a good idea though.

@o-tickleghost-o Haha! Sad violin music! 100% yes!!

A fence will never pay full whack for stolen goods. It really should be discounted, as it is for stolen Merchant Alliance cages.

@surveyorpete said in Greater Rewards for Turning in OTHER pirate's treasure:

A fence will never pay full whack for stolen goods. It really should be discounted, as it is for stolen Merchant Alliance cages.

WOAH, drop th' anchor! I don't think it should be reduced, but I completely understand your reasoning behind it and like your thinking!

On a lore perspective: The Gold Hoarders are already having you steal another captains "lost" gold, I don't think they're too bothered so long as someone goes gets it for 'em, and the Order of Souls can't be too fussed who killed who, as long as the bounty was completed, and the skull offered to them as receipt (they wouldn't know it was a different crew - they never leave their tents! lol)

@admiral-rrrsole Damn, you're quick! Lol

They look like they've not be cleaned in a very long time; can't be seeing through them clearly - I'm still getting full rewards for other crew's stolen misplaced skulls

@o-tickleghost-o I agree with others that it should be as it is. I would, however like to see commendations added for turning in stolen loot. I got one on Xbox for turning in a stolen Captain’s Chest and wondered why the game itself didn’t have such a thing.

I’ve also suggested elsewhere that it would be cool to have a new Legend faction known as the Black Market located in the PL hideout. They could turn in stolen MA items for full whack. It would give Legend Rep and have it’s own cosmetic schwag.

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I do not really think the prices paid by GH and OOS should be reduced either; but I wanted to balance the OP with a more logical opposite view.

I am opposed to a premium being paid for 'stolen' goods. I am not in favor of any mechanism that artificially rewards PvP. There are enough pirates happy to engage in thievery already. While that is fine, and all part of the game, they do not need further reward.

Plus: It just makes no logical sense. Goods don't get more valuable for having been stolen.

@galactic-geek Except that it hasn’t and that makes zero sense. There would be zero reason to be in an alliance if it meant losing value.

But whats to stop me from shouting out to the next ship i see, "Have you got a captains chest? Wanna exchange them for more money?".
Obviously if they say no or try to take it from me, then our crew will just try sink them and take it all.

I do agree that PvP is a core feature of the game. But I feel like it should be discouraged. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE PvP and it's perfect for a pirate game but I feel like the SOT player base is definitely more casual than most other game communities. If rare want's to appeal to all the players complaining, they're going to need to address this.

@antagoni-blurr said in Greater Rewards for Turning in OTHER pirate's treasure:

A side note: It's sickening that so many pirates at Pirate Legend got there through monotonous voyages and aren't quite so fearsome in battle. It diminishes the glory of the title.

Umm..."Pirate Legend" is a title you can only get through monotonous voyages. So it doesn't really make sense to complain that legends aren't good at PVP.

It's like saying I can't believe that guy is allowed to be a tank commander and he can't even fly a jet!

That's not true. I got PL by grinding Skull Forts and did tons of PVP.

@trickrtreat01 said in Greater Rewards for Turning in OTHER pirate's treasure:

@antagoni-blurr said in Greater Rewards for Turning in OTHER pirate's treasure:

A side note: It's sickening that so many pirates at Pirate Legend got there through monotonous voyages and aren't quite so fearsome in battle. It diminishes the glory of the title.

Umm..."Pirate Legend" is a title you can only get through monotonous voyages. So it doesn't really make sense to complain that legends aren't good at PVP.

It's like saying I can't believe that guy is allowed to be a tank commander and he can't even fly a jet!

That's not true. I got PL by grinding Skull Forts and did tons of PVP.

You're right, grinding skull forts isn't doing monotonous voyages, solely because there aren't voyages for forts.

@dutchyankee You can steal something from a person who doesn't own the object you are stealing - it belonged to someone at some point. Stealing is just taking without permission. So, let's not get stuck in the mire on that one.

@dutchyankee Sure. lifts gaze from navel. ;)

@galactic-geek Please provide where you read that the turn in values changed. I do not believe they would change that - it makes no sense.

@galactic-geek Which one? I watch these routinely. Link, please.

@galactic-geek Well, if it were true, I can guarantee there would’ve been an uproar about it.

But, the gods don’t hear you - pray as you may. ;)

So yesterday I stole this Stronghold skull and handed it in. It was worth 4000 gold, which made me think about this topic. Usually I get between 2.5k and 3.5k gold for a skull like this. The game can detect if an item is "stolen", so maybe it increased in value because of it?

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@o-tickleghost-o I am all for piracy, and my crew typically alternates sessions between running mussions and hunting down other ships. The game was billed as a game in which you contended with crews of other players to take home the loot, and the threat of other players has always been what makes the game interesting. Unlike many who enjoy pvp, I am also not against working with other crews in alliances. The ability for a session to go anywhere, and the uncertainty of how an encounter with another ship will go, keep the game fun.

That said, I bope you won't mind me disagreeing with a few of your points. Piracy is not, and has never been, about mischief. It was 100% a buisness. One whoch many were driven to through desperation, but still a buisness, all about getting the loot, turning it into gold, and enjoying the feuits of that gold before you got caught and hanged. And it was a buisness in which goods often sold for less than they normally would, because the people pirates were dealing with knew they couldn't just go find another buyer, and came with the added risk of being caught dealing with pirates. So while I would like to see some incentive for actual piracy, I dont think getting more gold and reputation for stolen goods makes sense. Especially since in sea of thieves those goods were going to the same merchants anyway. I think one better way to incentivize pvp would be for every ship, in addition to whatever loot it is carrying, to spawn supply crates with whatever supplies it was carrying, so that at least there would be no risk of using all your supplies and time attacking a ship with no value.

@lt-swag-johnson I don't think so. A couple of times I got more than 4k for skulls that weren't stolen.
About a month or so I sold a stolen Captain's Chest for 565 gold. I'm pretty sure there was no increase in value for it being stolen.