PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen
@kerrs-holley Actually, private servers are already in the game. Before you load into a game, you can go to settings and scroll down. Second to last option should be "Custom Servers." You will have the option to join game. Certain content creators who are partnered with Rare will have the option to create their own custom servers and then they can send a code to other players in order to join.
@wyvrax said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
In the eyes of myself and many other players I have spoken with there absolutely needs to be a PvE mode where the killing of other players is discouraged and disabled. The community (on Xbox at least) has become a cesspool of toxicity, racism, discrimination, and harassment. Just tonight only hours apart my friends and I encountered a player camping Golden Sands Outpost to loot ships. Where I do not completely disagree with piracy being part of a pirate game, what happened next was entirely unacceptable. We were chased all over the map and once we were able to sell all our loot we began chasing him in an attempt of payback. For about an hour straight the player spammed "u suk" in the chat to the point our screens were getting filled and after attempting to persuade him to stop harassment (as I am an Xbox ambassador) I was told the following: "u suk" multiple times, "youre dumb/stupid", and was called a "ret[@]rd" before he claimed I was harassing him. Keep note I never got vulgar to any degree with him. To follow that up about an hour later my friend who was just sent to the Ferry (we had not seen anyone since we joined the new lobby an hour ago) met a player there who messaged him "Get reported". Him also being an Xbox ambassador attempted to figure out what was going on/what this person was talking about to receive no follow-up response. My friend was then forced to report this player for filing a false report. Keep in mind these were both unprovoked responses and this seems to happen to us every single time we play. there needs to be something done about the players who consistently harass other players. I agree that PvP is fun to partake in and sometimes I myself also look for someone who would like a good fight but if you just spent an hour gathering loot there is no reason someone should be able to ruin all that work in just a few short minutes. I would recommend the easiest way to solve this toxic problem would be to allow players to host their own lobbies where they can control who/when someone joins. My friends and I absolutely love this game and play it every day but now we are also being harassed every time we play and for those who would say to just stay away from those players it is impossible when they constantly chase you to the point you have to leave the lobby to escape it. If you have a similar story to share I would like to see it as well in hopes someone from Rare will read them and bring the topic up front.
You say you love the game but you clearly dont because pvp is half the game.
You only enjoy half the content.I enjoy all the content, the pvp and pve.
Making a pve only server would mean people grinding would do it there for protection meaning regular pvp adventure mode would be hyper aggressive as they wouldnt do voyages here, so the ships you see are the ones who wanna fight.You want to twist this game into something it isnt.
It wouldnt work.This is why it wont ever happen. Making multiple threads wont change the outcome.
There is more players who enjoy the pvevp than the pve only.
Why?
Because Pve doesnt have enough content to keep players happy long term.It would be a very dull and boring experience for the majority of players and even those in the PVE camp would eventually tire of he easy repetitive voyages (with no pirates), predictable rare pve encounters and peacefulness of the seas.
The seas arent meant to be peaceful.
If there was no pirates its not the sea of thieves.
More like sea of monsters or sea of skeletons /ghosts.You’re playing the wrong game if you want no pvp because that generates most of the content for this game.
Simply “opting out” would have detrimental gameplay effects on those who enjoy PVEVP. Afterall, why do voyages for loot in a PVEVP when you can do it in safety of a PVE lobby??
I dont want hyper aggressive PVEVP servers where every ship you see is just looking to fight you and sink you. PVEVP strikes a balance and makes ship intentions unknown....thats this game’s biggest and greatest feature, Thats why i bought it. To take that away when it was advertised as such is a big deal, it would ruin the experience for me and many others.
It wont ever work. Which is why its been rejected....several times even officially.
God can you guys maybe stop bumping (yeah. duck me for adding a comment here) this one thread all the time?
OP just came by to release steam once and never to be seen again on this forum.
No need to add another reply adressed at him, it showed that he won't respond to or even read anything of this.
Also that personal drama between you guys... there's the PM function for that.@Rare-Community-Managers Is the ancor chain broken?
I've never seen a game where a specific game mode has been requested SO MANY TIMES by the community and the devs just ignore it as much as this game. Every so often I pop in these forums to see what's up, and there is ALWAYS a new post asking for private servers or PVE. I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I've never seen a game where a specific game mode has been requested SO MANY TIMES by the community and the devs just ignore it as much as this game. Every so often I pop in these forums to see what's up, and there is ALWAYS a new post asking for private servers or PVE. I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
They aren't tone deaf - Rare knows exactly what they created and their intent behind it, and are diligently preserving their core ideals.
If anything, it's the loud minority that is tone-deaf, because they don't understand Rare's vision for the game, and are asking for that core vision to change without realizing the full implications and ramifications of what that means in regards to the bigger picture as a whole.
@galactic-geek said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I've never seen a game where a specific game mode has been requested SO MANY TIMES by the community and the devs just ignore it as much as this game. Every so often I pop in these forums to see what's up, and there is ALWAYS a new post asking for private servers or PVE. I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
They aren't tone deaf - Rare knows exactly what they created and their intent behind it, and are diligently preserving their core ideals.
If anything, it's the loud minority that is tone-deaf, because they don't understand Rare's vision for the game, and are asking for that core vision to change without realizing the full implications and ramifications of what that means in regards to the bigger picture as a whole.
Shouldn't the OP have been redirected to one of the many other PvE threads in the first place?
Sounds like a moderation issue to me.
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I've never seen a game where a specific game mode has been requested SO MANY TIMES by the community and the devs just ignore it as much as this game. Every so often I pop in these forums to see what's up, and there is ALWAYS a new post asking for private servers or PVE.
So many times by the same core handful of people using mickey mouse accounts more like.. I applaud them for sticking to their guns all this time.
I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
I hear the devs speak very highly of you, it's their loss I suppose, they will get over it given time..
A big thing that the devs need to do is a quality of life update. When toxicity is encouraged by the community there are some serious quality of life issues that must be addressed. For starters a TOS that says dont abuse others players and an in game reporting system would go a long way. Making a spawn shield so that players arent spawn camped entire matches would also vastly improve quality of life and if Rare doesnt even bother to try to fix any of this they simply just dont care.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by a toxic community. I haven't had any issues with harassment, racism, or any other form of abuse. I also think rare built in some features you should think about using next time you have a problem
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If a player attempts to spawn camp I simply scuttle whatever boat I'm on. If you can't win try with another ship.
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Move servers, why put yourself through a horrible gaming experience if you don't need to.
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Organize and assign tasks to friends and crew members. That way nobody panics on deck.
Those 3 things solve most issues out at sea. If you have a problem and need to report a player, just do it through the xbox app or the xbox home menu (no idea for steam). If players are misusing xbox live to bully,just let microsoft handle it. I don't think there is any incentive for rare to track and ban players acting like a toxic pirate.
I'm aware that everything above has exceptions but generally that's all you need.
Further mechanics to reduce pvp would at least ruin my immersion, furthermore they could be abused if implemented incorrectly.
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@pwill1998 said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by a toxic community. I haven't had any issues with harassment, racism, or any other form of abuse. I also think rare built in some features you should think about using next time you have a problem
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If a player attempts to spawn camp I simply scuttle whatever boat I'm on. If you can't win try with another ship.
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Move servers, why put yourself through a horrible gaming experience if you don't need to.
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Organize and assign tasks to friends and crew members. That way nobody panics on deck.
Those 3 things solve most issues out at sea. If you have a problem and need to report a player, just do it through the xbox app or the xbox home menu (no idea for steam). If players are misusing xbox live to bully,just let microsoft handle it. I don't think there is any incentive for rare to track and ban players acting like a toxic pirate.
I'm aware that everything above has exceptions but generally that's all you need.
Further mechanics to reduce pvp would at least ruin my immersion, furthermore they could be abused if implemented incorrectly.
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Cant scuttle if your dead before your screen fully loads in. Getting shot by point blank multiple blunderbuss your not surviving.
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That means starting over and losing progress on any quests you might have. It completely ruins the ability to have fun if your constantly changing servers due to toxic players. You also cant quit several arena matches in a row as you get a penalties. Again this all falls back under lack of QOL.
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What if they are a crew of 4 and your only 2? Or by yourself? Its impossible to do anything if your outnumbered, again see #1
There is an incentive to play properly and for Rare to actually improve QOL. Its called keeping the game with a playerbase. If ppl keep quitting cause they cant have fun the game will shut down and then you cant play at all. Rare needs to step it up as does the playerbase, it goes both ways.
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@darkzero3802 said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
@pwill1998 said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by a toxic community. I haven't had any issues with harassment, racism, or any other form of abuse. I also think rare built in some features you should think about using next time you have a problem
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If a player attempts to spawn camp I simply scuttle whatever boat I'm on. If you can't win try with another ship.
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Move servers, why put yourself through a horrible gaming experience if you don't need to.
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Organize and assign tasks to friends and crew members. That way nobody panics on deck.
Those 3 things solve most issues out at sea. If you have a problem and need to report a player, just do it through the xbox app or the xbox home menu (no idea for steam). If players are misusing xbox live to bully,just let microsoft handle it. I don't think there is any incentive for rare to track and ban players acting like a toxic pirate.
I'm aware that everything above has exceptions but generally that's all you need.
Further mechanics to reduce pvp would at least ruin my immersion, furthermore they could be abused if implemented incorrectly.
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Cant scuttle if your dead before your screen fully loads in. Getting shot by point blank multiple blunderbuss your not surviving.
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That means starting over and losing progress on any quests you might have. It completely ruins the ability to have fun if your constantly changing servers due to toxic players. You also cant quit several arena matches in a row as you get a penalties. Again this all falls back under lack of QOL.
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What if they are a crew of 4 and your only 2? Or by yourself? Its impossible to do anything if your outnumbered, again see #1
There is an incentive to play properly and for Rare to actually improve QOL. Its called keeping the game with a playerbase. If ppl keep quitting cause they cant have fun the game will shut down and then you cant play at all. Rare needs to step it up as does the playerbase, it goes both ways.
1 - You can always scuttle while on the Ferry, so your excuse holds no water.
2 - That is the price of you wanting to escape the dangers of the sea.
3 - As a solo player myself, this is horsepocky. You have many options - fight, flee or negotiate. Most important tip - do not let them board your ship. As long as they are not on board your ship any numbers advantage they have is minimal as long as you play smart.
Your definition of "proper play" does not coincide with everyone else, nor even the developers. The game has a healthy player base that is actually GROWING so can the Chicken Little act to justify your requests.
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@darkzero3802 said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
@pwill1998 said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by a toxic community. I haven't had any issues with harassment, racism, or any other form of abuse. I also think rare built in some features you should think about using next time you have a problem
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If a player attempts to spawn camp I simply scuttle whatever boat I'm on. If you can't win try with another ship.
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Move servers, why put yourself through a horrible gaming experience if you don't need to.
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Organize and assign tasks to friends and crew members. That way nobody panics on deck.
Those 3 things solve most issues out at sea. If you have a problem and need to report a player, just do it through the xbox app or the xbox home menu (no idea for steam). If players are misusing xbox live to bully,just let microsoft handle it. I don't think there is any incentive for rare to track and ban players acting like a toxic pirate.
I'm aware that everything above has exceptions but generally that's all you need.
Further mechanics to reduce pvp would at least ruin my immersion, furthermore they could be abused if implemented incorrectly.
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Cant scuttle if your dead before your screen fully loads in. Getting shot by point blank multiple blunderbuss your not surviving.
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That means starting over and losing progress on any quests you might have. It completely ruins the ability to have fun if your constantly changing servers due to toxic players. You also cant quit several arena matches in a row as you get a penalties. Again this all falls back under lack of QOL.
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What if they are a crew of 4 and your only 2? Or by yourself? Its impossible to do anything if your outnumbered, again see #1
There is an incentive to play properly and for Rare to actually improve QOL. Its called keeping the game with a playerbase. If ppl keep quitting cause they cant have fun the game will shut down and then you cant play at all. Rare needs to step it up as does the playerbase, it goes both ways.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by not being able to scuttle on the ferry. However I will bring up some of the things you mentioned.
While losing quest progress is certainly frustrating this is a pirate game and pirates do tend to attack you. perhaps your confusing toxic players with player versus player interaction. I thought this was a topic for pve in the regular freeroam mode I'm not entirely sure how arena has anything to do with pve.
I also think you don't understand what quality of life is,and as such I don't know what your referring too. Please expand on what QOL is and what features are missing.
I can't understand your point if you don't say anything that contributes to the conversation. I understand what your trying to say but please be truthful and provide alternatives if you disagree.
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Players are part of the environment in which you sail. Treat them thusly and you shall find that they are as frustrating as a megaladon, kraken, or skeleton ship... just more skilled, persistent and harder to kill. They are the hardest part of the environment in which you sail, offering the greatest challenge to overcome, but also the greatest rewards.
To the original title: 'PvE Mode NEEDS to happen.'
I say, 'No, it doesn't.'@wyvrax you bought a PVP game with PVE elements, if you do not want PVP you bought the wrong game, play something else like AC Blackflag or just wait for the custom servers on SOT to release and then rent a server and play with your friends, but you won't get any rep or gold or any kind of progression, that's because unlike you the rest of us are playing the game how it's intended and it wouldn't be fair to call yourself pirate legend if you're gonna just farm your way to PL through alliance servers or by skipping out on the main risk of the game, which is PVP.
PVP WILL NEVER HAPPEN, UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC CHANGES IN THE COMMUNITY OR THE DEVELOPERS FEEL LIKE THE GAME CAN BENEFIT THROUGH PVE IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE THIS.
@firetail8433 I'm only about 3 weeks playin into but you are absolutely wrong and lost about what the game is.
The game is an attempt to group all type of players, not only pvp, stop thinking only about one part of the community, and have more Pve content than Pvp actually. lots of games tried this stuff, same as sea of thieves. only pvp would be a fighting game or a shooter pvp muiltiplayer mode.
the problem is that the actual pvp community is usually toxic, and the pvp itself is a bloody mess, based on fights that are not even piratey. I actually expected amazing naval fights and instead I have people flying in the air with kegs and one shots blunder (which is ok) while moving and loading if it were an actual 9mm (this is not ok)
not to say that new players have to be griefed over and over without any help, learning curve, or fun, which is the most important thing.
want pve guys to be more active on pvp? make pvp better and funnier when fights comes, because pvp can be extremely fun. but spawns, spawns camping, one shots low risk high rewards... sounds like a poopy CoD, not a pirate game.
@vendel-chief-07
being killed is not toxic
being sunk is not toxic
getting your loot stolen is not toxic
being kegged is not toxic
someone boarding your ship through cannon travel is not toxicthis isn't a PURELY ONLY PVP game, as I stated its a PVP GAME with PVE elements, if it WERE only PVP then what you said would've been valid, except its not
all I can think of as I read what you said is that you just don't want to learn from your mistakes and want an easy mode. No.
Also, I've been playing this game for 9 months, so I would like to think that I know a lot more about what the game is more than you.
Being called words and insulted for killing people or being killed is toxic.
being stalked 2 hours while you have no loot for "fun" is toxic.the game is not only pvp, even if I like pvp, which is again something you dont understand.
keep on talking about stuff you dont understand, Im out of this
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I've never seen a game where a specific game mode has been requested SO MANY TIMES by the community and the devs just ignore it as much as this game. Every so often I pop in these forums to see what's up, and there is ALWAYS a new post asking for private servers or PVE. I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
Wow. So all of the previous responses to the other PvE only server threads haven't told you otherwise? PvE only servers will never come. The Devs have said so many times, and yet PvE only server posters don't listen.
@xzodeak said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
It's only ever new players that ask for pve servers. Learn the game and you'll come to realize how stupid the concept is.
Nope! There are a few other posters who have been fruitlessly asking for a while.
@vendel-chief-07 said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
Being called words and insulted for killing people or being killed is toxic.
being stalked 2 hours while you have no loot for "fun" is toxic.the game is not only pvp, even if I like pvp, which is again something you dont understand.
keep on talking about stuff you dont understand, Im out of this
Also, no. this game was designed from the very beginning to be PvPvE. Just because it has story missions doesn't mean it needs PvE only. And there isn't even much to do in PvE only. WHat are you gonna do, the same old voyages, Tall Tales that you've already done, new world events maybe. Plus if you want to play with friends you would need to create a real server which costs money for Rare. So no, PvE only doesn't need to happen.
@baronbrr Good point. Then again, I could sail around for hours trying to find ships just to sink them, so there is a 1 in (possibly) 5 chance of me sinking them again.
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I've never seen a game where a specific game mode has been requested SO MANY TIMES by the community and the devs just ignore it as much as this game. Every so often I pop in these forums to see what's up, and there is ALWAYS a new post asking for private servers or PVE. I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
Tone deaf? You know what I think is tone deaf? The post you made to me saying that women need private servers we can play in alone so we arnt mistreated. You have used that as one of the many excuses you come up with as to why you have no problem playing how game is now but you know a woman like me needs the option to hide away because yeah that will really help with us being more accepted in the gaming community. How kind of you to crusade for us.
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
Is that the new step in the crusade, trying to shame the devs into bending the knee?
People refusing to understand the very clear premise of the game, despite being told over and over by the devs themselve and the whole community are the ones being tone-deaf really.
@darkzero3802 said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
A big thing that the devs need to do is a quality of life update.
QoL improvements are always appreciated. Some of the things you're talking about do not fall under this category, however.
When toxicity is encouraged by the community there are some serious quality of life issues that must be addressed.
The Sea of Thieves community does not encourage toxicity. Exactly the opposite.
For starters a TOS that says dont abuse others players
This already exists. Rare and Microsoft both have clearly worded policies against abuse and harassment. Every player agrees to these policies by playing their games. It's even posted in every tavern in the game in the form of the Pirate Code.
Please note that attacking people, sinking ships, stealing loot, and generally behaving as a pirate are not considered abuse. It's a pirate game. Arr.
and an in game reporting system would go a long way.
There is a reporting system for Sea of Thieves. No, it's not in-game. I don't think an in-game reporting function is a terrible idea. But I also worry that by making it too easy, the system will be abused. Some people will go around reporting everyone that attacks them. Clearly that defeats the purpose of having such a system. The current system takes a modicum of effort and works just dandy. There's no need for an in-game system.
Making a spawn shield so that players arent spawn camped entire matches would also vastly improve quality of life
No. This idea has been discussed at length and considered from every possible angle. Some ideas have even been tested in beta. The problem is that introducing systems like this change the dynamics of combat and allow new forms of abuse. The system as it stands may not be perfect, but it works fine. Getting spawn-camped can be frustrating, but it's simply part of the game. We always have the option to scuttle our ships to escape spawn-camping. You must realize that if you're getting spawn-camped, you've already lost that battle. You are free to keep trying to go back if you want, but if you can't win...you need to accept defeat and scuttle. You also have the option of leaving the server.
and if Rare doesnt even bother to try to fix any of this they simply just dont care.
What a childish statement. Clearly Rare cares about their game. Do you seriously believe they haven't considered these issues, and a lot more? You think because they won't bend to your demands they "just don't care?" What a load of bananas. I think it's incredibly obvious Rare cares deeply about Sea of Thieves. So do most of the people responding to you here in this forum. We love the game. If we didn't, we wouldn't bother responding to posts like these time after time.
@galactic-geek "it's their vision": maybe their vision isn't so great. "loud minority" this must be your first time here. Go do a search in the forums for "PvE" or "Private servers". Not exactly a small number of people asking for these. Also, my 'tone deaf' comment doesn't exclusively apply to Rare, it certainly applies to the dozen or so users in these forums who regurgitate their tired strawman arguments on these posts.
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
@galactic-geek "it's their vision": maybe their vision isn't so great. "loud minority" this must be your first time here. Go do a search in the forums for "PvE" or "Private servers". Not exactly a small number of people asking for these. Also, my 'tone deaf' comment doesn't exclusively apply to Rare, it certainly applies to the dozen or so users in these forums who regurgitate their tired strawman arguments on these posts.
And how many of these posts are "one and done" from new accounts that are not linked to a gamertag? The shear amount of these one hit wonder posts is irrelevant as I am positive the vast majority of them are in fact smurf accounts made in order to give he appearance of a great demand. Classic 4chan type of tactic there (like does anyone actually believe that "Never Gonna Give You Up" was the most requested song to be added to Rock Band 3 from the majority of the players?), and fools no one. So yes, loud minority.
Steady weekly gameplay stats for over 2 years show that Rare was right in their "vision" for the game, consistently ranking among the top 20 played games on any given week on Xbox.
People like yourself need to realize that not every game is meant for everyone. And those that do try to cater to everyone usually suck - we don't want that to happen to this game.
@dlchief58 Pretty much all of them are by one and done accounts or they admit they have only played the game for a day. Im sorry but a day is not enough time to give feedback on making a major change to any game.
@bloodybil said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
@rowge-gaming said in PvE Mode NEEDS to Happen:
I would personally be embarrassed to work for a company that is so tone deaf.
Is that the new step in the crusade, trying to shame the devs into bending the knee?
People refusing to understand the very clear premise of the game, despite being told over and over by the devs themselve and the whole community are the ones being tone-deaf really.
Well they have pretty much tried everything else. Its the throwing the pasta at the wall strategy, so far nothing seems to be sticking.
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