SBMM was an actual lie?

it's been a week

give it time, give it a patch, it'll likely improve in the coming weeks

@rakash3337 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

@wolfmanbush Its completely unacceptable that it launched in this state though. The original post doesn't even mention all the other problems that plague this unbalanced muck. Having to wait for upwards of 30 mins in the matchmaking queue, with the cancelling option not even working properly has to rank up there as the worst experience in the game, made worse by loading in a lobby that has 200+ ping, and the enemy ship full of people who have 10k more hours in game that will sink you instantly.

I dunno about that, I've played a long time and it's one of their better releases as far as right out the gate goes

people have been getting a lot of matches in and leveling up

stuff to work out but I put it around the 3rd or 4th best out-the-gate release they have done as far as overall performance goes.

@rakash3337 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

@wolfmanbush "But- But- But its good compared to other updates they've rammed out the door before they were ready, maybe the third or fourth best rushed unfinished update release." I'm trying to take this update on its own merits not compare it to other updates.
I've only had trouble finding matches on a brig, but the problem is both before finding a match and immediately after. I've only had three impression of this matchmaking over my experience with it.
Either, you get stuck in the queue for extremely long, which destroys open crews faster than anything else. The only chance you have is cancelling which as many times as it works, also just doesn't work and you get loaded into a match anyway but after another 10 minutes
2nd option, is you load in after 10 minutes and the crew you're going against is wildly below you're own skill level and they sink easily, which feels cheap for both parties.
3rd option, loading into a match after 10 minutes and the crew you're up against is wildly above you're skill level and you get rolled into oblivion

a step in the right direction is better than a step in the wrong direction

they catch a lot of heat for performance of the game, if they release something that performs better on release day than releases of the past I think it makes sense and is consistent to bring attention to the improvement.

@rakash3337 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

@wolfmanbush i agree that this update is in theory a major step in the right direction, but it died at the terrible execution

how could they work out sbmm before there were matches? people gotta play and get their data collected for the fights.

Imo it's not realistic to expect sbmm results right away

my guess is that it'll all work for the season overall, activity will struggle but it always does to some degree

a few important things happened

quite a few people that are here enjoy the content to some degree and/or think it's good for the game

people are generally getting along better during the content which has improved morale around the community

a lot of content has been consenting combat, which helps the above

I just flat out think it's the best they have done in some time even with bugs and issues.

@dragotech123 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

I hope that soon I can get matched against people like me. I admit that I'm terrible, like very very bad, and I get steamrolled a lot. I haven't won a single match yet. I need to learn how to fight properly. Until then I calculate that I'll need like 500 matches before I reach level 100, I'm glad that losses will award me XP.

(If anyone can point me to any guide or tips video, I will really, really appreciate it. Have a great day and a wonderful week, pirates!)

as you are learning the main things are

don't nose into the broadside of a ship. It's very common for people to turn their ship too much which gives them an angle to hit you and removes your opportunity to hit them

if you want to practice this without getting boarded you can use fleets/skelly ships as a resource. Practice on getting angles and practice taking pressure from a skelly ship, without the boarding it gives you a chance to work on naval more

there are a bajillion things about combat and it becomes overwhelming to try to improve dramatically in a short amount of time, it's a slow process

focus on naval and ladder guarding, situational awareness, it'll give you a better chance than anything else at some wins

The key to you becoming a strong fighter is to find your strengths and build on them, the more unpredictable you are the more you can use your strengths to your advantage.

Start off by not nosing their ship, focusing on picking up on noises so you can hear them swimming and boarding.

then just sail around and build up cannon accuracy and working on keeping your mast up

all the rest you can practice as you go on down the road.

1.Don't nose their broad
2.listen to sounds
3. try to repair mast before it gets hit twice
4. practice cannon shots

Even if you don't win you will still survive longer and will begin to put more pressure

that will grow to getting a win and in time you can start to incorporate more strategies as you gain more experience.

@dragotech123 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

@wolfmanbush Thank you! Thank you very much! I'll start going for ghost ship voyages and skelly ship events to practice. I hope that someday I can get both curses.

another way you can practice cannon shots is go to a sea fort and let the phantoms come out and you can practice hitting them with cannons, it may help you become more accurate without the pressure of pvp

sea fort phantoms are also great for practicing with your preference for weapons

practicing for pvp on pve also lets you get things done, sea forts done, skelly ships sunk and removes all of the pressure from pvp.

Pvp is second by second decision making, it's intense, it can be stressful, it's chaotic

Practicing in pvp helps but it's also always different, pve allows turning the basics into second nature which then allows more intense training in pvp later on.

@wolfmanbush

That is great advice about using sea fort phantoms as practice for PvP. Thank you. 👍

@dragotech123 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

I hope that soon I can get matched against people like me. I admit that I'm terrible, like very very bad, and I get steamrolled a lot. I haven't won a single match yet. I need to learn how to fight properly. Until then I calculate that I'll need like 500 matches before I reach level 100, I'm glad that losses will award me XP.

(If anyone can point me to any guide or tips video, I will really, really appreciate it. Have a great day and a wonderful week, pirates!)

PhuzzyBond has some of the best videos I've ever seen on YT for learning the ropes

@dragotech123 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

@wolfmanbush Thank you very much. I consider myself a PvE player. And I had to go solo slooping the whole time for a lot of reasons. So I've grown paranoid of any other player ship in any server for several months. The times I tried to PvP I got destroyed easily and I couldn't even know how or why I lost. I really appreciate your suggestions, and I'll start using them tomorrow that I will play again. Once again, thank you.

While you are on your adventures if you end up in a situation where you meet a friendly person/crew and they are getting off the game ask them if they can invite me to their ship so you can practice.

I'll take over their ship if they are cool with it and we can practice naval so you don't get camped and it will be a more chill scenario to practice pvp in.

@dragotech123 said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

@wolfmanbush dijo en SBMM was an actual lie?:

That sounds pretty specific to happen, but not impossible. I a once met a galleon that gave me their supplies because they were going to log off, so it is indeed possible. (You'll probably laugh at my lack of skills because the only time I can kill an enemy player is when they are swimming in the water so I can shoot them with the pistol.)

where you are isn't where you are going to be
it's never about being the best we will ever be it's about being the best we can be in the moment

There was a time I lost every fight, I lost a lot of loot, I wasn't skilled or experienced

you'll be alright, how do I know? because you aren't blaming anyone, you aren't making excuses, you want to improve

that's what gets in the way more often than anything else, ourselves. You aren't getting in your own way so you'll do great.

and sbmm doesn't mean there won't be stylistically incompatible matches that create fights where people get wrecked.

For instance at my skill level a lot of fighters are extremely good at tdm and boarding and I'm average at it but we will win against a lot of the same players and lose against the same players.

So even though we are correctly in the same part of the sbmm there will still be plenty of fights where they get lit up in naval and at any moment I could have them shoot into my crows nest and one blunder me on the way down and just easily camp me to a loss.

Some fights will look and feel very one sided on either end even though they are accurately being put together. Especially in a game like sea of thieves.

@brunokuz said in SBMM was an actual lie?:

Same thing happened to us today. Lvl 13 and 21 vs lvl 200. Weren’t able to fire any cannonballs as they kept hitting shots across the map.

I kept an open mind towards “SBMM” but after seeing stuff like this, it might indeed be a lie as OP stated.

They have no incentive to be dishonest on this
there isn't any evidence to suggest anything of the sort

taking the fights and winning/losing will help them help you in the near future

give them time on this, there are likely improvements on the horizon based on feedback as well as sbmm that begins to serve more people

it'll be alright when they get it worked out