Blunder and sword changes that I think should be implemented.

The sword got its 25 damage to solve the double gun meta

The sword didn't do enough damage double gunners could tank sword hits with little worry

This change will render the sword obsolete in comparison to the guns something i do not wish to see again

With this change guns would be something you will see 90% of the time

Right now the sword is balanced no need to change it

If there is something i hate it is game metas

Metas renders every pickable option useless due to the fact that the meta in question is so much more useful than every other option

Guns are not suppose to be used in close range combat its time to use weapons to their inteded purpose (blunder being the only exception because it is a close range weapon)

Before the sword buff guns was used in long range AND in close range

Guns even did a better job at close range combat than swords due to the low damage output per swing

Sounds to me like someone is trying to board before a ship has any pressure on them (damage) to take their attention off their ladders.

@galactic-geek First off, thanks for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it. I thought about where you said double gun would bring itself back in the meta of the damage changed so your argument was logical. However I still stand by the fact that blunder should have its knock back reduced because you don’t have to be standing at the edge of the ship to be knocked off the side. I see it all the time in arena where could board a ship and knock someone off with the blunder very easily and they were standing in the middle. As for the one shot change, I think your right it shouldn’t be removed just altered. I think the pellet spread should be increased. Blunder I think has too much of a tight spread of pellets for being able drain someone’s health from a distance. I could be on the front of a sloop and someone could be standing at the wheel and remove half of my health. Their has been multiple instances where I have been at full health and half of my health was gone when they were standing at a distance where at the most, a quarter should have been removed. Increasing the spread would keep the one blunder for ladder guarding and it wouldn’t make the sword blunder combo bad because your supposed to get up close anyway.
Also, I use the silent board strat and use the sword lunge cancel by grabbing onto cannons, map, wheel, harpoon etc just before I get into the immobilized state if I miss. I also use the sword lunge a lot especially if there is a lot of players chasing me, it’s really effective. The sword lunge however loves to bug out sometimes and lock you even though you hit the lunge. You could reduce the punishment from the penalty, even though you hit the lunge with the changes listed or just fix the bugs with the sword lunge. The biggest advantage with the sword lunge is the knock back. The knock back on the lunge feels more earned and less cheap because you have to outplay your opponents into following you and hitting them with the lunge. You can shoot the blunder without ADS after running up to someone and knock them back with the same knock back as the lunge. The lunge also immobilizes you almost completely for like 2.5 seconds making it easy for someone to cancel it by hitting you with any of the guns.

Thanks for taking the time to reply!

An addition to this. I think they should also make it so you can actually escape a sword stun. It sucks so much because you just have to spam eating when someone is swording you and you can't escape it even if you are sprinting. You should only be able to escape it after like 2 swings and sprinting away from the sword.

After seeing some POVs I’ll retract when I talked about getting rid one shot blunder, instead replace it with a wider spread of pellets. I also take back about the damage change to the sword but everything else I stand by

Sounds like this person has 0 range so beat them at that and don't let them close distance.

4 people chasing a person with any weapon SHOULD probably win. Logically.

I think the blundy is fine. I don’t use it, but it seems like a well balanced deterrent. With a good risk/reward for both a sword combatant daring to come in for a strike. And the wielder.

My big gripe right now is the fact that when I connect with a sword lunge. Like a quarter of the time, I am still getting the stun effect as if I missed. And can’t move. Or I can still move but the camera won’t turn.
One this is fixed, the sword combat will feel pretty perfect to me.

Rare just need to fix the sword so you can't get hit mid-combo by a button spammer. And the possibility to turn around faster when you are blocking.

Also I think the penalty of the missed lunge is too much. It required more skills before. At least you should be able to block or walk, like it was before, but without the possibility to cancel the animation and insta-hop around.

This would make sword combat a lot more interesting and thought out instead of just running around a ship spamming RT with a controller. It would also increase the amount of skill it would take to use the sword

Um, reducing damage and cooldown of the lunge doesn't change how much people are spamming light attacks, because they're 2 different attacks. That just makes people want to use a under used attack even less.

Howver I'm down for the 25 to 20 damage.

1 blunder is fine, it makes it very good for defense on ships, and I don't think I've ever had a problem with being knocked off the ship with blunder.

@galactic-geek
All your saying here is that to avoid all of his problem he needs to use sword, what if he's a double gunner, maybe without blunderbombs at his presence?

@galactic-geek
But having to use sword to counter all your problems would mean that it is meta.

@galactic-geek
Sword takes up only one of your weapon slots to be good whereas double gunning takes both meaning it can't be versatile

@stuffidontknow said in Blunder and sword changes that I think should be implemented.:

I have been playing this game for about 2 years now and it’s become one of my favorite games.

Us too.

I have 1100 chests turned in and get all of my rep from stealing and pvp. I’m on Xbox btw.

This makes you sound like a huge noob to me.

Blunderbuss has never really felt right in a game like sea of thieves where strategy is everything and sword just feels buggy and doesn’t work correctly half the time. When your on Xbox where good aim is a lot trickier than you might think, you tend to see players using the blundy and sword most of the time because they require little to no aim. It gets very frustrating and repetitive because if you board a ship like a Galleon, you’ll have like 4 people chasing you around with sword and blunder. When you get sliced once, it usually ends with all of the enemy crew trying to slice you and you die because you can’t get away from sword stun.

Yes, if you attempt to 1v4 a galleon you will likely die to them, no matter the weapons. Whatever your point is here, the mechanic should remain unchanged. Four blundy's versus you should generally result in your death.

If I’m boarding a ship and they hear me, a decent crew will know how to guard ladders effectively. When I’m trying to bait ladders by hopping off and getting back on the ladder or sliding down the ladder, good crews will see right through that and just wait until I actually climb up just to get one blundered.

Again, you are alone on a ladder with a team of players watching you. What change would you request? If you are dumb enough to climb a ladder with bad guys waiting for you at the top, you are dumb enough to die to their guns.

Personally, I don't one blundy you if I find you on my ladder. I throw a bomb, knock you off, and force you to swim to a mermaid and eat food.

Blunderbuss in my opinion, outranks pistol and sniper because 95% of all combat in sea of thieves is on a ship with closed corners and tight turns making the blunderbuss shine. Just run around and chase the person while weaving to avoid the incoming shots with blunderbuss or sword and you’ll probably kill them.

If opinions could be wrong, this one would be. pistol with eye of reach is better than blundy anything 95% of the time in pvp, imho.

Blunder also has huge knock back making it easy to board a ship like a brig or sloop and blast the enemy off the side. It’s like a miniature cannon because of how easily it can knock people off a ship.

This is in direct contradiction with your previous statement saying you couldn't get up ladders. If it was so easy, why are you getting stopped in the ladder?

Here’s what I think should change with blunder.

-reduce the knock back so you can’t knocked off a ship so easily
-reduce the damage from 100 to 99 to remove it’s one shot capability from full health

This would still make the blunder a hard hitter up close but remove the one shot that makes it so easy to get kills with compared to pistol or sniper

This would effectively reduce the blundy to defensive use for ladders only.

If the blundy was a guaranteed two shot (Which you are requesting by reducing the possible damage to 99) there is no reason not to double gun or sword w/ pistol instead. as the pistol reloads faster than the blundy.

Here’s what I think should change with the sword.

-25 to 20 damage
-reduce the penalty for missing a sword lunge
-reduce the sword lunge damage by 10

This would make sword combat a lot more interesting and thought out instead of just running around a ship spamming RT with a controller. It would also increase the amount of skill it would take to use the sword

I don't think you understand the game well enough to suggest these changes. These two suggested changes would ensure the entire pvp community would use eye of reach with pistol 100% of the time for PvP. You would see sword, gun during PvE, and that's about it.

                CONCLUSION 

These changes would make the weapons in sea of thieves a lot more balanced and skill based
because in the current state of sea of thieves blunder and sword are the weapons I see 75% of time on Xbox because of the lack of skill they require

I'll just conclude with a quote from Geek.

You, and others like you, aren't as skilled or as knowledgeable as you think you are, still have a lot to learn, and would rather have the game change before you do.