@aceblue said in From the XBOX player with 600+ Arena wins.:
Yes. In about 3 weeks I got 240 wins. As stated I played with PC & Xbox players via LFG.
The difficulty of the wins had a direct comparison to how many Xbox we had on the ship too. (Regardless of their experience.)
I have pictures with timestamps on my profile if you need proof.Also as stated I won via strategy and watching ladders. I could not win in hand/gun combat. Just because Xbox has a disadvantage doesn't mean we can't win entirely, but it is why most Xbox players (even those that are try-hards) don't have many arena wins/don't play it.
Me winning isn't the problem, I never said it was. The problem is the win-rate for Xbox players overall. Very few Xbox players are legendary sea dogs because there's too many disadvantages. The problem is Xbox players quitting arena, and the entire game.
Do you have any information on that? Where are you getting your numbers. I just ran into someone the other day who was on xbox who already had 240 wins. I don't have 240 wins. I'm on PC. Why don't I already have 240 wins?
No the issue is rebalancing the game. You watched ladders and had good ship tactics. AMAZING, someone who knows how to play the game. Now teach it to everyone else who doesn't want to. Players dropping anchors AT islands IN ARENA. You guys are the majority. You have the casuals. I'm sorry but lots in your community don't want to bother doing ANYTHING.
"Watch the boat while we are on island" - Next thing I know, I see the person on island.
"Hey you see any ships" - Oh yeah no we are good. Ship is rolling up behind us.
I remember this one from a long time ago and it pretty much was the moment I realized there are THOSE types of players.
"Dude why is everyone on the island? I said we should rotate!" - He replies "Why are you getting so paranoid we are PERFECTLY fine, its my ship anyways I'm the captain so stop your ******" - Immediately after he finishes that sentence we get broadsided with a ship that parked RIGHT ALONG ours.
Congrats you know how to play the game.
How does cross play optional hurt the game again? If it's so healthy and fine.. all it would do is boost rates. Most would still play mixed serves.
sigh I love doing this AGAIN. Human Nature. Human nature is the reason.
The servers will survive for a time. Eventually as time goes on it won't be. Take you for instance. You are advocated for separate servers. Which means you'll play in that server. "NO I WON'T" - Yes you will.
As new players get the game for xbox they will stick with opt out. Lots of players don't take the hard route immediately after starting a game. They want to "learn how to play" first before going into the hard area's. Some might try cross play but depending on how good a player they are, whether or not they are whiny little babies, and depending on other personality traits, they might stay. Those are going to be rare. Xbox players are mostly casuals, they won't pick crossplay. Is this true? Gee, I wonder, as some of the people on the forums have already said, "If we had the option to choose opt out from the beginning I would have NEVER chosen to play cross play."
The longer the game goes on the harder it will be to keep the community together. More and more new players on xbox will just play on opt out which means your servers grow, ours does not. Soon it will be PC on one side, Xbox on the other.
Then the arguments will happen. PC will want different things from xbox servers. I mean why wouldn't we? Why shouldn't we? Xbox servers are already seperated from us why not make the game better for us. Xbox will also clearly do the same thing. "Hey can we have some balance changes for the opt out servers". Both sides are going to do this.
PC will have dead servers because we are the minority and depending on region and time of day the servers can be dead. We will have to be moved to more populated areas which means during peak US times the EU or even AUS regions will have to be migrated to US sides or US to those regions to keep populations going. Which means there will be latency issues.
Then PC players are going to be mad so Rare will have to change their population algorithm or they won't. PC players won't play because of lag. If they fix the merging problem, people will stop playing because no one is online. When a game only has a population during another regions PEAK hours, its not a good system if you don't have the numbers, which xbox was and has.
All of this because of simply human nature.
Again again again I will say Xbox players aren't being lesser by choice, if they could all afford an SSD I'm sure they'd get one. Even potato PCs do not have the load problems of any Xbox without an SSD.
Yes we do. Dear god yes we do. The load times are just as long as a xbox one x.
Your problem is the original xbox one. Which should be seperated because like you said, hardware differences right?
Which is another reason I don't believe any of this "fairness" nonsense. Xbox one original has the WORST load times. Ive never argued that, no one argues that. We are all in agreement on that. Yet you don't ask to say "hey can we have a server for our xbox one original counter parts?"
You also don't care about the other xbox's that have ssd's.
Potato PC's don't have clean framerates so there goes another one of your arguments. Potato PC's have worse framerate drop issues then xbox one x's.
Why are PC player so rich and xbox players are not? What makes us special? We aren't rich. We make sacrifices all the time. I used to have to decide, do I want the new game, or upgrade my pc.
We have to upgrade constantly, or just sit there playing video games at the LOWEST settings which are worse then xbox one settings.
How many of you bought gears of war 5, red dead 2, CoD, but sit here complaining about not having money for an SSD??
Get off it man. PC players aren't made of money, but WHY THE HELL are we treated like we are the top 1%. As if we bathe in a tub of money as if we hang out at wall street.
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS WOULD A PC PLAYER JUST TRY TO CONTROL A CONTROLLER AT 10 SENSITIVITY IT ISN'T LIKE PC, YOU CAN NOT CONTROL IT WITH THUMBSTICKS. I've done both it's a massive difference!! Just try it. It's not as simple as us just raising our sensitivity or we'd do that.
Yes I did. I have. Took a long time to learn. About 2 weeks of constantly playing, 8 hour days every day, just to get muscle memory to sink in. After that had to change my whole playstyle which took some more time. Which was more difficult for me since I have issue with my hands. Which is why I play on PC because even though its still difficult for me to play First person games on mouse and keyboard, I enjoy playing. Controller is hard for me to hold and my fingers just don't work right.
My stats of PC players have better hit reg than Xbox is via testing with PC & Xbox players in the same server with people being targets. Go test it. No matter how bad the PC internet/specs are the Xbox player will have less hit reg. (I get a lot of big alliances and when we are done with things I ask them to help me test stuff before getting off)
LOLOLOL really we have better hit reg? I never heard that. Please let me know of a person that has good hit reg because I MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT. So what now?
Several people have agreed with what I said about lfg, maybe you have a main crew and don't look at lfg much.
I do have 3 crews and I try to play with them because after opt out was implemented I was turned away for being on PC. I was called toxic among other things. If I was on a rando crew and they talked about balance issues I would stay silent, I didn't want to get into a fight with them, if I didn't agree I would get kicked.
I've been asked to leave if I end up in a xbox party looking for xbox servers.
Most of the people I joined off of LFG were all xbox players. Still are mostly. Maybe its a regional thing I don't know. But my entire friends list is almost ALL xbox players. So again, you have yours I have mine.
As I mentioned previously if the new Xbox (in a year) fixes load times then I don't see a problem with PC controller players being allowed in the Xbox lobbies.
Why not just rebalance the game because we all agree the mechanics are garbage. The only issue is with Rares reluctance to let go of one simple mechanic in the game, double gunning. With them REPEATEDLY trying to fix ONE thing the mechanics are completely garbage.
One thing they've been trying to fix. ONE THING. They could just get rid of double gunning and make sword mandatory. Revert combat mechanics back to launch but make sword completely mandatory.
It could be rebalanced if we all just simply agreed to ask them to pause their updates and MAKE THE CHANGES. Yet we sit here arguing over cross play which is one thing that should stay in the game.
I'm open to them fixing the game but I don't think they're going to do that.. so opt out serves would be an easier/faster/actually possible solution. The adventure lobbies would still be full due to the good server merges, and many Xbox player would still play split servers. This wouldn't split the community, it would boost it though as many players would return and I'd stop so many Xbox players from quitting.
Then why not let PC player into those lobbies if we use controller? See thats the thing, why not let us into those lobbies with a controller? There is no reason NOT to. If input is the reason then let us also join those servers since they will CLEARLY have the most players.
I just firmly believe something has to change for this game to not die. If it was okay as is, then why are there no Xbox players in arena(Xbox servers are back to not running again so all players are in mixed lobbies), why are there so few legendary sea dog Xbox players, why is arena dead, why are so many Xbox players quitting the entire game?
The game isn't dying, but it does need changing. We should push them to fix the combat mechanics instead of arguing about cross play.
You have PC players that agree that opt out is need.
We have xbox players that say cross play should stay the same.
The argument over cross play we are divided.
BUT WE ALL AGREE THE GAMES COMBAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED!
Why not push for the one thing WE ALL agree on.
Again again again, if it doesn't work they can just disable it. Why can't it be tried to fix the problem?
No they can't. I don't think you understand human nature at all, or at least not the gaming community. Its so much harder to remove something like that then it is to implement it. Once its installed they won't be able to remove it.
"Hey guys Joe Neate here, sorry to say, servers for PC players are dead and opt out is not working. We have to switch it back" - They would lose ALL OF YOU.
You would all quit in protest. Its happened in the past.
Something like opt out is not something they can implement then remove.
Unrelated but I'm a woman in response to all the man/sir/etc: you can keep calling me those I don't care. But just so people stop assuming all try-hards are men.
I could go into a whole tangent about that and the way society evolves and blah blah but that would derail the convo and honestly, with today's politically correct nonsense, I would rather not receive hate mail from people who are no more intelligent than a rock that sits outside my roommates house.
I couldn't care less if you were male or female or a chipmunk. I treat everyone the same and if you trash talk better back it up.
EDIT-- (Trash talking in the game, not saying you are trash talking here)
